Obama sucks...

[The Troll]

what do you mean, Is that all you got?................it THAT all YOU got?..........it is okay for him to set all time records in the trillions of deficit....but Bush is irresponsible and unpatriotic for doing HALF the damage that this creep has.

  You trouble is that all of us know you're lying.  He hasn't set an all time record.  It seems that you have a problem of thinking straight.  I really think you need to see a psychiatrist.  Between wrong thinking and this all consuming hatred of black people, I think you need mental help.    

[Henry Hawk]

  You trouble is that all of us know you're lying.  He hasn't set an all time record.  It seems that you have a problem of thinking straight.  I really think you need to see a psychiatrist.  Between wrong thinking and this all consuming hatred of black people, I think you need mental help.   

when President George W. Bush took office, our national debt was nearly $6 trillion.....when Bush left office, it had nearly doubled, to around $11trillion.

So I admit, Bush's record on spending SUCKED!!!!!.......during his presidency, our national debt rose by an average of $607 billion a year.

Now lets look at Obama's..........during  his presidency to date, the national debt has risen by an average of $1.7 trillion a year

That is a jaw-dropping $1.116 trillion more, per year, than it rose while Bush was in office......
You can call it lying all you want, but it is all true.....do some research and look for your self....it is all simple math.

[Palehorse]

when President George W. Bush took office, our national debt was nearly $6 trillion.....when Bush left office, it had nearly doubled, to around $11trillion.

So I admit, Bush's record on spending SUCKED!!!!!.......during his presidency, our national debt rose by an average of $607 billion a year.

Now lets look at Obama's..........during  his presidency to date, the national debt has risen by an average of $1.7 trillion a year

That is a jaw-dropping $1.116 trillion more, per year, than it rose while Bush was in office......
You can call it lying all you want, but it is all true.....do some research and look for your self....it is all simple math.

Back out the costs of the wars for oil initiative that the Shrub started and see where that leaves us!

[Henry Hawk]

According to a Congressional Budget Office (CBO) report published in October 2007, the U.S. wars in Iraq and Afghanistan could cost taxpayers a total of $2.4 trillion dollars by 2017 .... that is 2.4 billion a year over a 10 year period....

Take that away from the $1.116 trillion per year Obama is outspending during bushs's years and it is STILL just under $1 trillion.

[The Troll]

According to a Congressional Budget Office (CBO) report published in October 2007, the U.S. wars in Iraq and Afghanistan could cost taxpayers a total of $2.4 trillion dollars by 2017 .... that is 2.4 billion a year over a 10 year period....

Take that away from the $1.116 trillion per year Obama is outspending during bushs's years and it is STILL just under $1 trillion.

  I hear all of you bullshit figures.  Tell me where is he spending that money and where does the Congress share in that spending.  You do know that the Republicans control the House lock stock and barrel.  I just don't get where Obama is suppose to get all of the blame. 

  But, then with all of your hatred for Obama we know you will give him no quarter in any way. 

[Henry Hawk]

I never said he got ALL the blame...but if you can blame Bush, then I will blame Obama..isn't that the way it works?

Obama and Pelosi, Reid.....said they was going to cut the deficit and pay off our debt........well they didn't come close....and they controlled all levels of the house, senate and wh.

they only made it worse....unpatriotic and irresponsible......by Obama's very own words......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kuTG19Cu_Q

watch it again......or those of you who have not taken the time to do so.

[Henry Hawk]

Govt. sets record deficit in February 

The federal government recorded its worst monthly deficit in history in February, according to a preliminary report Wednesday from the Congressional Budget Office that said the deficit in fiscal year 2012 is already more than half a trillion dollars

[The Troll]

Govt. sets record deficit in February 

The federal government recorded its worst monthly deficit in history in February, according to a preliminary report Wednesday from the Congressional Budget Office that said the deficit in fiscal year 2012 is already more than half a trillion dollars

  I wonder why, hell we're still in a Republican depression.  It took years and years and World War II to get  us out of the Republican Hoover depression.

  It is amazing how you can't see this.  If you given all of the jobs away and nobody has money but the super rich and they don't want to pay taxes, how in hell do we pay our way out of debt.

  You can't do it, especially when you have a bunch of lock stepped Republicans to are stopping Obama from doing anything and their only job is to make Obama a one term president.

[Palehorse]

The Blue indicates the impact of the stimulus plan, despite the protestations of some. . .



Debt with, and without, the Bush Tax Cuts





Now. . .who REALLY caused this tsunami of debt?



Here's the real story. . .

[Henry Hawk]

New claims for unemployment benefits remained at 374,000 last week from the week prior. Claims were expected to fall to 370,000 from an initially reported 372,000.   

[me]

Sorry to inturrupt the conversation HH but I found this interesting article and thought it might explain some things about our "smart and educated" posting buddy's.  I do believe it can be applied to things other than science too. 

Why Are Smart People Some of the Most Gullible People Around?
Former DISCOVER editor Paul Hoffman consults with the hotheaded naked ice borer to find out why our species has such a consistent tendency to be fooled.
by Paul Hoffman
From the October 2010 issue; published online February 10, 2011

The hotheaded naked ice borer now has its own Wiki­pedia page and appears on lists of the greatest hoaxes of all time. Tim Folger, who has labored in the pages of this magazine to painstakingly unpack string theory (here, here, here, and here) and the extraordinary world of Stephen Hawking (here and here), fears that it is his fictitious account of the repulsive little carnivore for which he'll be remembered. "It's kind of pathetic," Tim told me, "that this may be my writing legacy."
All of our sham stories found their believers, despite what I thought were abundant red flags. The Neanderthal researcher, for example, was named Todkopf ("Deadhead") and hailed from the nonexistent Hindenburg University (get it?—a school of hot air). But creationists trumpeted the ancient music story as further evidence that Neanderthals were just like us. (Creationist theology does not permit another human species; that would undermine our God-given uniqueness.)

As for the ice borers, many readers of the original report noted that the April 1995 issue of DISCOVER was peppered with true stories—about rats on Prozac, mini-mammoths, and buddy-system birds—whose authenticity might well be questioned. Indeed, the very image on the cover of the magazine could be suspect—a grotesque blowup of a false-colored micrograph of a 0.03-inch Microphthalmus, accompanied by the oversize headline "Exclusive Photos: Aliens on the Beach! The Unseen Creatures Beneath Our Feet." (I apologize for the hyperbolic wording—my compensation was based on newsstand sales.) And the ice borer itself was just a fantastic twist on a hardly more believable animal, the Namibian naked mole rat, a nearly blind mammal that has a social structure like an ant's. To fake a photo of an ice borer that accompanied the hoax story, the magazine's art department Photoshopped a red-tinted trilobite onto the head of a naked mole rat.


I now feel a pang of guilt about the hoaxes. As a man of science, I was smugly delighted that creationists seized on the Neanderthal tuba but dismayed that zoologists and other scientists also believed our fakes. Magicians often say scientists make the best audience because they think they're too smart and observant not to trust what they see with their own eyes. Ricky Jay, the sleight-of-hand master, told 60 Minutes (video) that "the ideal audience would be Nobel Prize winners....They often have an ego with them that says, 'I am really smart so I can't be fooled.' No one is easier to fool."
I told the magician Penn Jillette about the ice borers. "Smart people learn to believe things that are counterintuitive," he said. "Black holes, string theory, germs, trips to the moon, radio waves—they've had practice believing crazy s--t." Penn was right, of course. Is a bowling-ball-size fundamental particle any less plausible than 26-dimensional string theory? Or smog-clearing bellows any less harebrained than, say, BP's plan to plug its oil geyser with golf balls? We live in interesting times. Modern physics is incomprehensible, and cowboy engineering schemes—private companies racing to get to the moon or to sequence our genomes cheaply—are commonplace and may be our salvation.
Science has always aimed to explain the world around us, and humanists used to portray scientific explanations as draining the joy and mystery from life. These days, though, scientific explanations often defy everyday experience. The fact that creationists are citing science to further their agenda is a sign that scientific discovery has become as marvelous and inspiring as any tale from religion.
Richard Dawkins says there is an evolutionary advantage in believing what authority figures tell us: Children would wander off into the woods if they didn't heed their parents' admonition to stay near their homes. Toddlers cannot understand how a stovetop could burn them, yet most of them follow their parents' warning to stay away from the range (as well as believe whatever they are told about Santa Claus, the tooth fairy, and Dawkins's favorite bugaboo, the Almighty).
I asked Stephen Greenspan, the author of Annals of Gullibility: Why We Get Duped and How to Avoid It, to explain why intelligent people accepted our April Fool's stories. "People trust authority—and DISCOVER is an authority for science news—unless the authority says something too far-fetched," he said. Our economy and all other social interactions are based on trust and would collapse if we all doubted one another, he added. In other words, a society of paranoids and cynics would not function as a society. It is sobering to realize that human beings blindly trust authority and that authority figures like Nobelists are the ones most easily duped.
When I learned that Greenspan, perhaps the world's foremost scientific authority on gullibility, had put $400,000 of his own retirement savings into funds that invested with Bernie Madoff, I no longer felt so stupid believing that Matt Damon was starring in a film about shogi. Come to think of it, the plot of the purported movie sounded a lot like Invictus.

http://discovermagazine.com/2010/oct/13-why-are-smart-people-the-most-gullible/article_view?b_start:int=1&-C=

[Henry Hawk]

That is really a good one me........the phrase.... 'I am really smart so I can't be fooled.' No one is easier to fool."...says it all.

[me]

That is really a good one me........the phrase.... 'I am really smart so I can't be fooled.' No one is easier to fool."...says it all.

Yep.

[Bo D]

It's amazing how you people can sit back and revel in stupidity and actually be proud of it.

[Henry Hawk]

It's amazing how you people can sit back and revel in stupidity and actually be proud of it.

you people?