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Just another reason why our government sucks...

Started by Henry Hawk, November 09, 2011, 09:15:36 AM

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Quote from: The Troll on February 21, 2012, 05:07:16 PM
  All people who has been in the military or around the military knows what a "Short Round" is.  For "ME" to fire back is not even a short round, it's a blank.   :biggrin:
Don't bet the farm on that bucko.
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The Troll

Quote from: me on February 21, 2012, 06:50:37 PM



  Who in hell is Ken Huber and who in hell care what he says.  You're going to have to come up with something better that this, "Blank".  :haha:  :haha:  Is he God.  :ghost: :preach:  :pope:   :rolleyes: :razz:

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Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

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Quote from: followsthewolf on February 21, 2012, 01:56:00 PM
She's laughable.

No sense trying to discuss on a normal level.

Won't make that mistake again.

LOL...astute perception of the obvious.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

The Troll

Quote from: followsthewolf on February 21, 2012, 01:56:00 PM
She's laughable.

No sense trying to discuss on a normal level.

Won't make that mistake again.

  Yes Sir Mr. Wolf.  Every time :me: says something stupid other Zoners cut her down at the knees.  How many legs has this spider :spider: got.  Every time she says some thing stupid she keep getting up like some dead Zombie.  Please  :ne1: :smash: pound a stake in her black heart.   :biggrin:

  Most people and me included would start smarten up or shut up.  STFU or tell the truth.   :sa:

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Prenatal Care - Routine and preventive health care provided during pregnancy to safeguard the health and well-being of the woman and the Fetus. In the United States routine prenatal care consists of regular visits to the health-care provider (family practitioner, obstetrician, or nurse midwife), URINE and BLOOD tests, BLOOD PRESSURE checks, and additional diagnostic procedures as needed such as ULTRASOUND, AMNIOCENTESIS, or CHORIONIC VILLI SAMPLING (CVS). The schedule of visits varies according to the trimester of pregnancy and any specific concerns about the pregnancy.

I can attest to the fact that ultrasound is indeed considered "prenatal care", and have the pictures of my last 4 grandchildren, (in the womb), to prove it! Some of which I have posted within this very forum.

Diagnostic, prenatal care testing has become SOP in the United States and has helped many potential parents in preparing for a child that will be born with a disability, and in some cases making the hard choice to terminate a pregnancy that will result in a child experiencing a very poor quality/quantity of life should the pregnancy be allowed to run its course.

It is a decision that no one wants to make, but a decision that entails mercy as its basis for being arrived at. And this guy wants to eliminate a woman / couple's right to make an informed decision based upon the empirical evidence this testing provides!

I have a cousin who gave birth to two children with severe birth defects, before any medical testing was performed to determine the cause for these defects. Had she and her husband known ahead of time that the children would be born with this condition, they would have had an opportunity to spare the children the short and tortured lives they lived. (This was before prenatal care included diagnostic testing procedures that are SOP today).
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Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

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Hate to say this but I agree on this one.  He is letting his personal feelings overrule his better judgement because it doesn't always turn out for everyone else like it did for him and there are severe deformities where the child should not be born but that is up to the parents to decide.  But it is just the prenatal "testing" just for the purpose of abortions he wants stopped, which I don't think is done, not the preventative.  I think he's dazed and confused on that reasoning because I don't believe anyone has those tests done with the sole purpose of having an abortion in mind.  The way Troll stated his original post was prenatal care which encompassed all of it which is why I questioned it and looked up the article and interview and let Troll know he did not say all of prenatal care.   
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followsthewolf

So you picked one part of one post by one person and made an issue out of it, ignoring the whole point of Santorum's statement.

That is what is laughable.

Brilliant evaluation and incisive comment.  :no:

Ignorance and fanaticism are ravenous. They require constant feeding.

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  If the Americans want to return to the Dark Ages all they need do is vote the Republicans back into office with a majority.

  Just look at the states where the Republican control the states.  Just a plain disasters.  Look and Indiana, Ohio, Wisconsin, Virgina, Arizona and many other Republican control states.  The Republicans say they want freedom and small government.  But if you look they want to take a woman's rights and workers to have a union and want to increase the taxes on the poor and middle class and protect the super from more taxation.

  We have a Republican controlled state of Virginia.  Right now they are trying to pass a bill that says that a woman who wants a abortion to have a 12 inch long, 2 inches in diameter probe shoved up into the woman's Virgina for an ultrasound against her will or consent.  I call it RAPE.  The men can get Viagra on their state health insurance to have more unwanted pregnancies.  I say if the men want Viagra to have the same probe shoved up their penis's.  Virginia dicks and pricks only.

  The Republicans in Virginia want to pass a bill to make in illegal to use a cuss word on the Internet, making it a crime to cuss.  What is wrong with the Christian dumbasses.  What about free speech in the Constitution. 

  When are the Republican women and the other women going to raise up and have those ultrasound probes shoved up the Republican men's asses and put this country back into the 21ST Century.

  The Republicans are always screaming about Obama raping the Constitution, the super rich, the country and religion.  But it's  OK to shove a large probe up a woman's Virgina for an ultrasound without her consent.  We have to stop the agenda of the Republican to return American into a European Dark Ages. 

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Quote from: followsthewolf on February 22, 2012, 06:15:05 AM
So you picked one part of one post by one person and made an issue out of it, ignoring the whole point of Santorum's statement.

That is what is laughable.

Brilliant evaluation and incisive comment.  :no:
Hey, if ya'll can do it I can too.  And if you recollect that is what he, Troll, made the post about.  I'm the one that put the entire article including the interview up.  And further more if you read my last post I did address his statement.
Quote from: me on February 22, 2012, 05:22:06 AM
Hate to say this but I agree on this one.  He is letting his personal feelings overrule his better judgement because it doesn't always turn out for everyone else like it did for him and there are severe deformities where the child should not be born but that is up to the parents to decide.  But it is just the prenatal "testing" just for the purpose of abortions he wants stopped, which I don't think is done, not the preventative.  I think he's dazed and confused on that reasoning because I don't believe anyone has those tests done with the sole purpose of having an abortion in mind.  The way Troll stated his original post was prenatal care which encompassed all of it which is why I questioned it and looked up the article and interview and let Troll know he did not say all of prenatal care.   
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The Troll

Quote from: me on February 22, 2012, 04:11:15 PM
Hey, if ya'll can do it I can too.  And if you recollect that is what he, Troll, made the post about.  I'm the one that put the entire article including the interview up.  And further more if you read my last post I did address his statement.
Mrs. Mighty :me: what do you think about all of the the other things Pope Santorum :pope: has to say about his Catholic Theology on abortion, birth control and shoving his Catholic religion up everybody's ass.

  You know the Religious Right Christians are very little different form the Muslim Taliban when it come to woman's rights.  I am so ashamed for you to believe every thing the Republican men and republican preachers have planned for the women of this country.

  STAND UP AMERICAN WOMAN AGAINST THE RELIGIOUS DOGMA OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.  FOR THE BASTARD KNOW WHAT THEY DO.

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Quote from: The Troll on February 23, 2012, 08:45:22 AM
   Mrs. Mighty :me: what do you think about all of the the other things Pope Santorum :pope: has to say about his Catholic Theology on abortion, birth control and shoving his Catholic religion up everybody's ass.

  You know the Religious Right Christians are very little different form the Muslim Taliban when it come to woman's rights.  I am so ashamed for you to believe every thing the Republican men and republican preachers have planned for the women of this country.

  STAND UP AMERICAN WOMAN AGAINST THE RELIGIOUS DOGMA OF THE REPUBLICAN PARTY.  FOR THE BASTARD KNOW WHAT THEY DO.

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READ MY POST TROLL!!!!!! ACTUALLY READ WHAT I WRITE FOR A CHANGE INSTEAD OF PUTTING YOUR OWN TWIST ON IT!!!!
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Quote from: me on February 23, 2012, 12:46:08 PM
READ MY POST TROLL!!!!!! ACTUALLY READ WHAT I WRITE FOR A CHANGE INSTEAD OF PUTTING YOUR OWN TWIST ON IT!!!!

I remember reading what you wrote once about climate change. I LMFAO at your assertion that you couldn't grow grapes in England!

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Quote from: Olias on February 23, 2012, 01:26:27 PM
I remember reading what you wrote once about climate change. I LMFAO at your assertion that you couldn't grow grapes in England!

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
And did I or did I not find the article which stated just that.  Of course it was many many years ago so you discounted it as usual since it wasn't in this century.  And no, I'm not going to go find it again.
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