FACT CHECK: Are rich taxed less than secretaries?

[Henry Hawk]

Hank- GWB signed the legislationn and as you are so fond of saying, he was the POTUS and had the power of veto. He should have exercised a little leadership and plugged the hole, but he didn't.

Just like he did in Desert Storm when our military was knocking on SH's door and could have (should have) removed him from poweran but did not because GWB said no and stopped it.

Had he followed through and demonstrated leadership, we wouldn't have to be there still!

what are you talking about?

[Anne]

You're confusing Iraq I (where Iraq invaded Kuwait) with Iraq II (the quest for oil).

Desert Storm was President George H W Bush, not President George W Bush. How would George W. Bush stop the military at Iraq boarders in Desert Storm?

[Palehorse]

Desert Storm was President George H W Bush, not President George W Bush. How would George W. Bush stop the military at Iraq boarders in Desert Storm?

Well, excuse me for forgetting an initial! I'll not post from my phone moving forward, to facilitate your comfort! 

The fact remains you are confusing the two initiatives, so don't blow smoke!

For your edification, the coalition during Desert Storm consisted of Arab nations, and when Iraq launched SCUD missiles at Israel, the concern was that Israel would retaliate and their doing so would risk those Arab entities flip-flopping over the involvement of Israel int he conflict.

SH had insisted front he onset of the conflict, that inclusion of the Israel disagreement be a portion of any agreement of withdrawing Iraqi troops from Kuwait. The US and UN steadfastly refused throughout, so SH launched SCUDS at them and Saudi Arabia in order to try to entice Israel into the fray as  a means to win over Arab State coalition members to his side. It didn't work.

US and coalition forces pursued those Iraqi troops to within striking distance of Baghdad, and could have removed SH at that time, but were turned around.

[Exterminator]

US and coalition forces pursued those Iraqi troops to within striking distance of Baghdad, and could have removed SH at that time, but were turned around.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BEsZMvrq-I

What changed?  Oh, yeah...that was before Halliburton, with Cheney as its CEO, was heavily involved in providing services to our military.

[Henry Hawk]

BUMP

Read this for a better understanding of the conservatives regarding raising taxes:

From Walter Williams,


This year, Congress will spend $3.7 trillion dollars. That turns out to be about $10 billion per day. Can we prey upon the rich to cough up the money? According to IRS statistics, roughly 2 percent of U.S. households have an income of $250,000 and above. By the way, $250,000 per year hardly qualifies one as being rich. It's not even yacht and Learjet money. All told, households earning $250,000 and above account for 25 percent, or $1.97 trillion, of the nearly $8 trillion of total household income. If Congress imposed a 100 percent tax, taking all earnings above $250,000 per year, it would yield the princely sum of $1.4 trillion. That would keep the government running for 141 days, but there's a problem because there are 224 more days left in the year.

How about corporate profits to fill the gap? Fortune 500 companies earn nearly $400 billion in profits. Since leftists think profits are little less than theft and greed, Congress might confiscate these ill-gotten gains so that they can be returned to their rightful owners. Taking corporate profits would keep the government running for another 40 days, but that along with confiscating all income above $250,000 would only get us to the end of June. Congress must search elsewhere.

According to Forbes 400, America has 400 billionaires with a combined net worth of $1.3 trillion. Congress could confiscate their stocks and bonds, and force them to sell their businesses, yachts, airplanes, mansions and jewelry. The problem is that after fleecing the rich of their income and net worth, and the Fortune 500 corporations of their profits, it would only get us to mid-August. The fact of the matter is there are not enough rich people to come anywhere close to satisfying Congress' voracious spending appetite. They're going to have to go after the non-rich.

[Exterminator]

Is Mr. Williams suggesting with that tripe that the other 98% of the population doesn't pay anything?  Has anyone even remotely suggested that the households with over $250K of income shoulder the entire burden themselves?  Sure, it makes for good sound bites for simple-minded fools but any thinking person immediately recognizes how ridiculous it is.

[Henry Hawk]

Is Mr. Williams suggesting with that tripe that the other 98% of the population doesn't pay anything?  Has anyone even remotely suggested that the households with over $250K of income shoulder the entire burden themselves?  Sure, it makes for good sound bites for simple-minded fools but any thinking person immediately recognizes how ridiculous it is.

it does not take a math genius to realize even THAT would not be enough to pay for the mess we are in...THAT is Mr. Williams point.

btw, THAT is my last response to any of your posts.....no more.  It has been fun though.

[Exterminator]

it does not take a math genius to realize even THAT would not be enough to pay for the mess we are in...THAT is Mr. Williams point.

It would certainly help.

btw, THAT is my last response to any of your posts.....no more.  It has been fun though.

I couldn't care less.  I will, however, continue to expose yours for the garbage and often outright lies that they are.

[The Troll]

                         HAWK CHICKENS OUT.      
                                                              Takes ball and bat home!

                                          Troll wants the same tax rate that Eisenhower had, 90% on rich.

                                                                                   

[Henry Hawk]

                         HAWK CHICKENS OUT.      
                                                              Takes ball and bat home!

                     

naw, I will leave my ball and bat for you guys to play with...just have nothing to say to Ex.  I'm not even mad or upset...just come to the conclusion that thre is nothing to gain or lose, so why even do it.  You on the other hand, I will continue to TRY to make a decent conservative out of you yet.  You are just one mule kick to the head away....

[The Troll]

naw, I will leave my ball and bat for you guys to play with...just have nothing to say to Ex.  I'm not even mad or upset...just come to the conclusion that thre is nothing to gain or lose, so why even do it.  You on the other hand, I will continue to TRY to make a decent conservative out of you yet.  You are just one mule kick to the head away....

  May an elephant sit on your head and fart. 

[Anne]

Well, excuse me for forgetting an initial! I'll not post from my phone moving forward, to facilitate your comfort! 

The fact remains you are confusing the two initiatives, so don't blow smoke!

For your edification, the coalition during Desert Storm consisted of Arab nations, and when Iraq launched SCUD missiles at Israel, the concern was that Israel would retaliate and their doing so would risk those Arab entities flip-flopping over the involvement of Israel int he conflict.

SH had insisted front he onset of the conflict, that inclusion of the Israel disagreement be a portion of any agreement of withdrawing Iraqi troops from Kuwait. The US and UN steadfastly refused throughout, so SH launched SCUDS at them and Saudi Arabia in order to try to entice Israel into the fray as  a means to win over Arab State coalition members to his side. It didn't work.

US and coalition forces pursued those Iraqi troops to within striking distance of Baghdad, and could have removed SH at that time, but were turned around.

Nope. I wasn't confused, President George H W Bush had a stated mission for Desert Storm, get Iraq out of Kuwait, period. He did what he set out to do and ended it. Going on into Iraq would have raised he** over here and with the arab states. You associated Desert Storm with the wrong President.

[Palehorse]

U really need a hobby. Keep twisting though; I find it amusing.

Wonder how long before your head starts spinning kooks?

And if u truly think daddy Bush as CIC did not go into Iraq, you are out of your skull. (As usual) look it up before you dig yourself in deeper!

[Palehorse]

U really need a hobby. Keep twisting though; I find it amusing.

Wonder how long before your head starts spinning kooks?

And if u truly think daddy Bush as CIC did not go into Iraq, you are out of your skull. (As usual) look it up before you dig yourself in deeper!

And here's a hint; Desert Sabre.

[Anne]

Ok, what did I say was wrong? Did President George HW Bush initiate Desert Storm or not. Did the US broker an alliance with the arab states to refrain from interfering with US ousting Iraq from Kuwait? Wasn't the stated purpose of Desert Storm to get Iraq out of Kuwait, not to invade Iraq.