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The Troll

#105
October 10, 2011, 01:18:46 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 10, 2011, 01:02:18 PM
Yeah, I'm REAL happy that the democrats spent all of my SS..........so I'm screwed because of BIG FREAKIN Government and the liberal, entitlement mentality.......

THANKS GUYS!

  It hasn't happen yet and won't if the Democrats have any thing to do with it.

  But your Teabagger/Republican party gets their hands on it you won't have anything, that's for sure.  With the present plans the Teabaggers have you will be safe at 51.  Just get your head out of your ass and think who is your real friends.  The Super Rich, Big super corporations loving Republicans or the Democrats.  Anyone with a brain can figure that out. :doh:

Exterminator

#106
October 10, 2011, 01:58:43 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 10, 2011, 01:02:18 PM
Yeah, I'm REAL happy that the democrats spent all of my SS..........so I'm screwed because of BIG FREAKIN Government and the liberal, entitlement mentality.......

THANKS GUYS!

Huh...a little research reveals that the president who initiated spending Social Security surpluses was George H. W. Bush so I guess this is just more bullshit lies!
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

The Troll

#107
October 10, 2011, 05:53:20 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on October 10, 2011, 01:58:43 PM
Huh...a little research reveals that the president who initiated spending Social Security surpluses was George H. W. Bush so I guess this is just more bullshit lies!

  Yes, EX.  In Hawk's and "ME"s life, lies and bull shit rules.   :yes: :biggrin:

me

#108
October 10, 2011, 08:14:54 PM
Quote from: The Troll on October 10, 2011, 05:53:20 PM
  Yes, EX.  In Hawk's and "ME"s life, lies and bull shit rules.   :yes: :biggrin:
Na, what you say doesn't rule my life and neither does what Ex says.   :razz:
Trump 2020

Palehorse

#109
October 10, 2011, 08:27:58 PM
Quote from: me on October 10, 2011, 08:14:54 PM
Na, what you say doesn't rule my life and neither does what Ex says.   :razz:

Quote from: Exterminator on October 10, 2011, 01:58:43 PM
Huh...a little research reveals that the president who initiated spending Social Security surpluses was George H. W. Bush so I guess this is just more bullshit lies!

Facts are facts though; no mater who shines the light on them. . .
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Henry Hawk

#110
October 11, 2011, 08:57:31 AM
Quote from: Palehorse on October 10, 2011, 08:27:58 PM
Facts are facts though; no mater who shines the light on them. . .

Just because Ex said HE did some research and that Makes this facts now?  really?
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

#111
October 11, 2011, 09:51:12 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 11, 2011, 08:57:31 AM
Just because Ex said HE did some research and that Makes this facts now?  really?

Basic research indicates that he is absolutely correct. The Government has now been taking BILLIONS from the SS fund and transferring it to the general reserve, and as of 1998 it owed SS 736 BILLION dollars!
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Exterminator

#112
October 11, 2011, 10:23:52 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 11, 2011, 08:57:31 AM
Just because Ex said HE did some research and that Makes this facts now?  really?

You should try it sometime; might help you to prevent making a fool of yourself.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

#113
October 11, 2011, 10:53:26 AM
Quote from: Palehorse on October 11, 2011, 09:51:12 AM
Basic research indicates that he is absolutely correct. The Government has now been taking BILLIONS from the SS fund and transferring it to the general reserve, and as of 1998 it owed SS 736 BILLION dollars!

I never said he did not innitate any of this.....are YOU saying the HW Bush was the first to do this?  and WHO is it that actually DID this during his term?  the democrats, led by a democrat congress and house.    Also, I was referring to the FACT that entitlement programs such as medicare started by LBJ by admending S.S legislation...THAT was what I was clearly talking about. fact  do some research and see if I am wrong...I am NOT.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#114
October 11, 2011, 11:00:40 AM
You should be happy about that since you'll be needing that medicare when you retire.  lol...
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

The Troll

#115
October 11, 2011, 02:12:43 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on October 11, 2011, 10:23:52 AM
You should try it sometime; might help you to prevent making a fool of yourself.

  EX, that's impossible for the Hawk.  It isn't hard to make a fool out of yourself, with your head up your ass.   :wink: :smile:

me

#116
October 11, 2011, 02:58:39 PM
Quote from: The Troll on October 11, 2011, 02:12:43 PM
  EX, that's impossible for the Hawk.  It isn't hard to make a fool out of yourself, with your head up your ass.   :wink: :smile:
And you are speaking from the voice of experience without a doubt. 
Trump 2020

Palehorse

#117
October 11, 2011, 06:23:48 PM
Hank- GWB signed the legislationn and as you are so fond of saying, he was the POTUS and had the power of veto. He should have exercised a little leadership and plugged the hole, but he didn't.

Just like he did in Desert Storm when our military was knocking on SH's door and could have (should have) removed him from poweran but did not because GWB said no and stopped it.

Had he followed through and demonstrated leadership, we wouldn't have to be there still!
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Anne

#118
October 11, 2011, 06:46:50 PM
Wasn't part of the deal with the other arab states that they would not interfere/retaliate if we did not cross into Iraq? I seem to remember a lot of talk about him being a leader who could gain cooperation with the arabs.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

Palehorse

#119
October 11, 2011, 09:05:10 PM
Quote from: Anne on October 11, 2011, 06:46:50 PM
Wasn't part of the deal with the other arab states that they would not interfere/retaliate if we did not cross into Iraq? I seem to remember a lot of talk about him being a leader who could gain cooperation with the arabs.

You're confusing Iraq I (where Iraq invaded Kuwait) with Iraq II (the quest for oil).
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville
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