Flashback - July 2005 - Sharp Rise in Tax Revenue to Pare U.S. Deficit

[Henry Hawk]

No, we should have enough revenue to pay a little over half of them...in August...the outlook gets worse in successive months.  I'll ask again, which of those bills do you think is unimportant enough that it can go unpaid?

you can ask me as many time as you like.........what needs to happen is we need to get consumer confidence UP!  Get the private sector into creating jobs once again, to raise federal revenue....the senate just turned down a proposal to put a cap on federal spending that would allow an increase in the debt ceiling by $2.4 trillion on the condition that the House and Senate approve a balanced budget amendment....the dems rejected it....they just want to raise taxes and raise the debt limit......and do nothing about cutting the spending......THAT is a real shame....and it will NOT spur confidence in the consumer.

[Exterminator]

So you've got nothin'.

[Henry Hawk]

So you've got nothin'.

that is all YOU got?........So you've got nothin'.   

[Exterminator]

I'm not the one ranting and raving like a lunatic about something I know absolutely nothing about.

[Henry Hawk]

I'm not the one ranting and raving like a lunatic about something I know absolutely nothing about.

Well at least you admit you know NOTHING about economics finally.....

[The Troll]

you can ask me as many time as you like.........what needs to happen is we need to get consumer confidence UP!  Get the private sector into creating jobs once again, to raise federal revenue....the senate just turned down a proposal to put a cap on federal spending that would allow an increase in the debt ceiling by $2.4 trillion on the condition that the House and Senate approve a balanced budget amendment....the dems rejected it....they just want to raise taxes and raise the debt limit......and do nothing about cutting the spending......THAT is a real shame....and it will NOT spur confidence in the consumer.

  Henery says, "what need to happen is we need to get consumer confidence UP!.  That sure sounds good Henrey.  How about the 163,000 small business, large business, and corporations that have out sourced out jobs, closed the doors to their business and manufacturing plants and sent the TOOLS that made their items out of to foreign countries during the George W's administration.  Hummmm?

  Consumer confidence would increase if the job market increased, if there was some overtime and there were some pay increases for the people who make minimum wages at Walmart and other scab companies.  But most of all it would increase consumer confidence would go up if some of their friend and relation, who have been laid off for over a year were able to find a job.

  The jobs won't come back fast because the corporations have tore down their plants and most of all they have taken the tools and machines that made American products and sent them out  too.  Just like burning the bridges behind them and shitting on the rungs of a ladder as they increased their profits and the expense of the American worker.

  But  one hidden thing that no one thinks of, is that all of the skilled tradesmen are dying off and all of the skilled trades apprenticeship programs don't exits any more.  Plus what good is a engineer degree in manufacturing mean, NOTHING!

  But the main thing to increase consumer confidence is for the Republicans to stop the Obama lies and  fear campaigned, and start working for the middle class and stop kissing the rich and the corporation's ass.   

[Palehorse]

Unresponsive, as I suspected.

You can spin the FACTS all you like, (ronnie said those things publicly), but the situation is EXACTLY the same. . . As it was when CLINTON said the very same thing In 93!

[Henry Hawk]

Unresponsive, as I suspected.

You can spin the FACTS all you like, (ronnie said those things publicly), but the situation is EXACTLY the same. . . As it was when CLINTON said the very same thing In 93!

scuse me, but I DID respond....you just don't read what I post, or you read what you want to read....

[Palehorse]

You still did not answer the question: Was Ronnie lying?

[Henry Hawk]

You still did not answer the question: Was Ronnie lying?

What RR said and what Obama said were TWO completely different implications.......Reagan talked about how irresponsible it is to flirt with our finances in this manner and what could happen....nothing he said was a lie...

Obama said he did not know if Social Security checks would go out on Aug 2 if this was not solved......THAT was a direct lie....he knows for a FACT they would go out then...He knows there is enough money to pay SS, Medicare, Medicaid, the Military in full......

Had he said if this NEVER gets solved a day will come when we may not meet our obligations to those services...but he didn't he LIED....How can you compare the two statements is nothing more than a vicious SPIN and liberal talking points trying to propagandize this situation.

[The Troll]

  I would come out of retirement and work 12 hours a day free if your damn Republican Party puts America in defalt.  Let me run passing out the government checks.

  First all Social Security Checks would be stopped.  All check that go out to retires that receive checks retirement checks from the government department that handles payment from companies that have defaulted on their pension programs, like GM.  Hawk's dad retirement checks. 

  Since the government has to feed and cloth the military.  Stop all military pay checks.  Stop all payment to states.  One thing I would not stop checks for is medicare payments.  If the damn Republican want to shut down the government to keep the super rich from paying more taxes.  I say, SHUT THE DAMN THING DOWN.

  Let all of the damn Republican/Tea Party sheeple find out what the Republican Party thinks of them.  Talk about stepping on their dicks.  I think the GOP has truly did it this time.  I want them to shut it down.  But I don't think the Stock Market, the bankers and the super rich want a default.     We will see.   

[Henry Hawk]

  I would come out of retirement and work 12 hours a day free if your damn Republican Party puts America in defalt.  Let me run passing out the government checks.

  First all Social Security Checks would be stopped.  All check that go out to retires that receive checks retirement checks from the government department that handles payment from companies that have defaulted on their pension programs, like GM.  Hawk's dad retirement checks. 

  Since the government has to feed and cloth the military.  Stop all military pay checks.  Stop all payment to states.  One thing I would not stop checks for is medicare payments.  If the damn Republican want to shut down the government to keep the super rich from paying more taxes.  I say, SHUT THE DAMN THING DOWN.

  Let all of the damn Republican/Tea Party sheeple find out what the Republican Party thinks of them.  Talk about stepping on their dicks.  I think the GOP has truly did it this time.  I want them to shut it down.  But I don't think the Stock Market, the bankers and the super rich want a default.     We will see.   

Quit watching The Ed Show and you will be okay....he is so full of shit it is pathetic.......The Republicans will NOT allow a default, and the are NOT going to stop SS.....all they WANT is a Const admin to balance the budget, put a CAP on spending and CUT spending.....nothing there is a bad thing....they are willing to raise the cap if it is matched dollar per dollar on cuts (somewhere, NOT SS)....there is NOT ONE DAMN thing wrong with the rep's plan...........what plan does the dems have other than raise taxes to increase spending?  Please tell me and NOT a smart ass remark would be preferred...

[The Troll]

Quit watching The Ed Show and you will be okay....he is so full of shit it is pathetic.......The Republicans will NOT allow a default, and the are NOT going to stop SS.....all they WANT is a Const admin to balance the budget, put a CAP on spending and CUT spending.....nothing there is a bad thing....they are willing to raise the cap if it is matched dollar per dollar on cuts (somewhere, NOT SS)....there is NOT ONE DAMN thing wrong with the rep's plan...........what plan does the dems have other than raise taxes to increase spending?  Please tell me and NOT a smart ass remark would be preferred...

  The only thing I seen the Democrats want to spend money for is to put people back to work fixing the decaying United States, like China and other country are improving their countries with our money.  The Republicans and the Tea Party has been so interested in cutting the taxes and making profit for the CEOs and the super rich the have let this, our Beautiful American decay and you know it.   

  I am glad you Republicans are so hard headed and greedy.  You won't get you constitutional admendent, cap on spending and you match dollar for dollars cuts and spending.  All windmills in your mind.

  After thinking about it and considering the damage to the Republican/Tea Party and the wake up to congress the seriousness of the deficit.  I hope your Republican/Teaparty shuts down the country.  You guys deserve it so much and maybe the American Sheeple will wake up and see how the Republican/Tea Party is for Corporations, Banks, Stock Market, Hedge Funds and the dead beat super rich they will have to think long and hard to vote for the Son Of Bitches again. 

  Love you Henery 

[Palehorse]

What RR said and what Obama said were TWO completely different implications.......Reagan talked about how irresponsible it is to flirt with our finances in this manner and what could happen....nothing he said was a lie...

Obama said he did not know if Social Security checks would go out on Aug 2 if this was not solved......THAT was a direct lie....he knows for a FACT they would go out then...He knows there is enough money to pay SS, Medicare, Medicaid, the Military in full......

Had he said if this NEVER gets solved a day will come when we may not meet our obligations to those services...but he didn't he LIED....How can you compare the two statements is nothing more than a vicious SPIN and liberal talking points trying to propagandize this situation.

You are caught up in the "reasons" we reached the debt ceiling. I am asking about what all THREE presidents said would be a direct result of not raising it, which you said in Obama's case was a lie.

All three presidents stated that it was uncertain whether social security and other governmental checks would go out when the deadline was reached without the debt ceiling being raised. All THREE!

The reasons may differ, but that is another question. The result of hitting the debt ceiling is the same.

[The Troll]

Quit watching The Ed Show and you will be okay....he is so full of shit it is pathetic.......The Republicans will NOT allow a default, and the are NOT going to stop SS.....all they WANT is a Const admin to balance the budget, put a CAP on spending and CUT spending.....nothing there is a bad thing....they are willing to raise the cap if it is matched dollar per dollar on cuts (somewhere, NOT SS)....there is NOT ONE DAMN thing wrong with the rep's plan...........what plan does the dems have other than raise taxes to increase spending?  Please tell me and NOT a smart ass remark would be preferred...

  Stop watching the Ed show?  Well, I don't think you would watch a whole show.  Because he tells the truth and you are not about the truth.  Tell me one thing he lies about.  Not what you think he lies about but what he actually lie about.  You can't find one damn thing.  But your Republican/Tea bagger bloggs sure lie and extorts the truth and takes things out of context.

  Oh, I watch them all, Olbermann, O'Donnell, Maddox and Shultz.  It's tickles me that just a couple of days ago you accused me of watching too much Faux Fox News.  It's has finally came out, what a bunch of lairs, thieves guilty of bribery, and computer hacking of people personal lives and misery.  Just to get a news story and extort and blackmail their supposed enemies.  There is not one faux Fox new reporter on Faux Fox News I would trust to tell the truth because Old Rupert Murdoch owns them lock stock and barrel and he does blackmail and blackball his employees.