How the 1960's Cured America

[me]

Why bother you would just say I was stupid or the resourse was not a valid one.  I'll see if I can find a clip of good old Mit admitting it was a mistake and isn't working would that satisfy you? He did that on National TV ya know. Of course they probably chose not to run it on the lame stream media networks.

And Troll if they like their health care so much in Canada and other countries why do a lot of people come to the States to have their operations for cancer and such?   Yes, people from here go to other countries for some experimental treatments sometimes that aren't approved here yet but in most cases those prove not to be of any benefit in the long run.

Learn how to read Troll.
   

  OK Jelly Bean here's your answer see how ill informed you are.  You want a whole lot more information.  Just Google in American going overseas of medical treatment.  Isn't it funny how over a half a million Americans go overseas for health care.  Now go back up and read the website I found for you, Peanut.     I waiting for you to admit you're slow.  Hee, hee, Hee

[Nighthawk]

Also never mind the fact that the 500,000 number is just an estimate and probably based on flawed data. I can't tell because the article is 3 1/2 years old and the sources sited no longer exist online. From what I can tell while searching this is that the only numbers given are given by companies who provide Medical Tourism services. Their numbers are suspect because they would possibly inflate the numbers to make it look as though everyone is doing it. I have found estimates of 100,000 to 750,000 Americans seek medical care overseas. One of the reasons the number is inflated is that included in the estimates are regular tourists on vacation that happened to fall ill or get injured and receive medical treatment while on vacation. These people did not travel solely to seek medical treatment and should not be counted in those numbers. Also the way that some countries hospitals count their medical tourists can greatly inflate these numbers also.

It is explained here:

http://treatmentabroad.blogspot.com/2010/03/medical-tourism-statistics-comparing.html

And from what I can tell, there are no 'real' numbers available as no one has done the research properly.

[Exterminator]

You know what? Never mind. I may as well have been speaking in Hebrew. You accuse EVERY one of being sheep, but I've yet to see you post a source that wasn't editorialized or an original document. You don't know what a creditble source is and have never researched the source of your sources. You want to assume that if they agree with what you want to think, that's good enough, so just forget it.

Now you're catching on!

[The Troll]

Also never mind the fact that the 500,000 number is just an estimate and probably based on flawed data. I can't tell because the article is 3 1/2 years old and the sources sited no longer exist online. From what I can tell while searching this is that the only numbers given are given by companies who provide Medical Tourism services. Their numbers are suspect because they would possibly inflate the numbers to make it look as though everyone is doing it. I have found estimates of 100,000 to 750,000 Americans seek medical care overseas. One of the reasons the number is inflated is that included in the estimates are regular tourists on vacation that happened to fall ill or get injured and receive medical treatment while on vacation. These people did not travel solely to seek medical treatment and should not be counted in those numbers. Also the way that some countries hospitals count their medical tourists can greatly inflate these numbers also.

It is explained here:

http://treatmentabroad.blogspot.com/2010/03/medical-tourism-statistics-comparing.html

And from what I can tell, there are no 'real' numbers available as no one has done the research properly.

  Who care if the information is four years old.  American medical cost has went up and you know that people are leaving the United States for more foreign medical treatment.  Probably over a Million people to day.

  The website is from a person connected with private medical treatment and probably has a hidden agenda.  But me said that no Americans were going outside the country for organ transplants or medical services. 

  I wish you think what you are saying before you put it out.  We need creditable sources.  Not the trash you present.  Please think before you make a ass of yourself.      I just wish that you would pratice the Golden Rule.  Do un to others as you would have done un to you.  Just think about it, it might sink in. 

[Nighthawk]

  Who care if the information is four years old.  American medical cost has went up and you know that people are leaving the United States for more foreign medical treatment.  Probably over a Million people to day.

  The website is from a person connected with private medical treatment and probably has a hidden agenda.  But me said that no Americans were going outside the country for organ transplants or medical services.

  I wish you think what you are saying before you put it out.  We need creditable sources.  Not the trash you present.  Please think before you make a ass of yourself.      I just wish that you would pratice the Golden Rule.  Do un to others as you would have done un to you.  Just think about it, it might sink in. 

What!!! The contributer's "About Me" right on the page I linked:

I am Managing Director of Intuition Communication Ltd, a web publishing business in the healthcare sector. Our sites include Private Healthcare UK, the UK's leading portal for private healthcare services and the rapidly growing medical tourism site, Treatment Abroad. I am a regular speaker and commentator on medical tourism.

He is an advocate for medical tourism. If anything he would want the numbers higher to give the impression that EVERYONE is seeking medical treatment in foreign countries.

If what I posted is soooo bad then how about you post some evidence to refute it? remember, credible, verifiable sources.

[The Troll]

  Do you wear a mask or a Scott Air pack when you are sorting the fly shit out of the black pepper.  It is an almost impossible job, but you are really good at it.   

[me]

Quote from: me on May 16, 2011, 02:50:24 PM

    Why bother you would just say I was stupid or the resourse was not a valid one.  I'll see if I can find a clip of good old Mit admitting it was a mistake and isn't working would that satisfy you? He did that on National TV ya know. Of course they probably chose not to run it on the lame stream media networks.

    And Troll if they like their health care so much in Canada and other countries why do a lot of people come to the States to have their operations for cancer and such?  Yes, people from here go to other countries for some experimental treatments sometimes that aren't approved here yet but in most cases those prove not to be of any benefit in the long run.

Learn how to read Troll.
   

Quote from: The Troll on Today at 08:29:30 AM

      OK Jelly Bean here's your answer see how ill informed you are.  You want a whole lot more information.  Just Google in American going overseas of medical treatment.  Isn't it funny how over a half a million Americans go overseas for health care.  Now go back up and read the website I found for you, Peanut.     I waiting for you to admit you're slow.  Hee, hee, Hee

  Who care if the information is four years old.  American medical cost has went up and you know that people are leaving the United States for more foreign medical treatment.  Probably over a Million people to day.

  The website is from a person connected with private medical treatment and probably has a hidden agenda.  But me said that no Americans were going outside the country for organ transplants or medical services. 

  I wish you think what you are saying before you put it out.  We need creditable sources.  Not the trash you present.  Please think before you make a ass of yourself.      I just wish that you would pratice the Golden Rule.  Do un to others as you would have done un to you.  Just think about it, it might sink in. 

[Exterminator]

Learn how to read Troll.

This is great coming from someone who can't conjugate the verb, "to be."

[The Troll]

Learn how to read Troll.

  Wrong again, most of these operations are legal here in the United States.  Like a spinal fusion, $60,000 here and $15,000 in India.  It's the money   Yes it's the money  

[me]

  Wrong again, most of these operations are legal here in the United States.  Like a spinal fusion, $60,000 here and $15,000 in India.  It's the money   Yes it's the money  

Do ya think maybe the difference in the cost of being a surgeon could be involved in the price of the surgery?  Do their surgeons have the huge expense of malpractice ins that ours do thanks to attorney's suing for ridiculous amounts and frivolous suits.  No, not all medical suits against surgeons or doctors fit into those categories but we have become a suit happy country and it drives the cost of insurance up dramatically for certain occupations. I imagine you sue a surgeon or doctor in India they're gonna tell you "sorry 'bout your bad luck"  and be done with ya. 

[The Troll]

Do ya think maybe the difference in the cost of being a surgeon could be involved in the price of the surgery?  Do their surgeons have the huge expense of malpractice ins that ours do thanks to attorney's suing for ridiculous amounts and frivolous suits.  No, not all medical suits against surgeons or doctors fit into those categories but we have become a suit happy country and it drives the cost of insurance up dramatically for certain occupations. I imagine you sue a surgeon or doctor in India they're gonna tell you "sorry 'bout your bad luck"  and be done with ya.

  That is a problem going overseas.  No lawyer protection.  But if you don't have insurance to cover a $60,000 operation, you do $20, 000 in cash you can get the operation and get fixed and well.

  But If you had an operation here in the United States and the doctor put some wrong medicine in the wrong spot and put you in a wheel chair for life.  Would you sue?  Or would you say, well no one is perfect doc.  We will just forget about it.  I don't think so.  You would sue his ball off. 

[me]

Quote from: me on May 17, 2011, 06:45:01 PM

    Do ya think maybe the difference in the cost of being a surgeon could be involved in the price of the surgery?  Do their surgeons have the huge expense of malpractice ins that ours do thanks to attorney's suing for ridiculous amounts and frivolous suits.  No, not all medical suits against surgeons or doctors fit into those categories but we have become a suit happy country and it drives the cost of insurance up dramatically for certain occupations. I imagine you sue a surgeon or doctor in India they're gonna tell you "sorry 'bout your bad luck"  and be done with ya.

Once again you fail to read.

That is a problem going overseas.  No lawyer protection.  But if you don't have insurance to cover a $60,000 operation, you do $20, 000 in cash you can get the operation and get fixed and well.

  But If you had an operation here in the United States and the doctor put some wrong medicine in the wrong spot and put you in a wheel chair for life.  Would you sue?  Or would you say, well no one is perfect doc.  We will just forget about it.  I don't think so.  You would sue his ball off. 

[The Troll]

  Fail to read what?  I sure like the way you give an answer it has some many excape clauses, openings to get out of what you said.  You sound like an ambulance chasing lawyer.

  No lawyer talk.  Just what did I fail to read?  Sugar lump. 

[Nighthawk]

  Fail to read what?  I sure like the way you give an answer it has some many excape clauses, openings to get out of what you said.  You sound like an ambulance chasing lawyer.

  No lawyer talk.  Just what did I fail to read?  Sugar lump. 

  Fail to read what?  I sure like the way you give an answer it has some many excape clauses, openings to get out of what you said.  You sound like an ambulance chasing lawyer.

  No lawyer talk.  Just what did I fail to read?  Sugar lump. 

[me]

One more time.  How big am I going to have to make before you can finally see it anyway Troll?

  Fail to read what?  I sure like the way you give an answer it has some many excape clauses, openings to get out of what you said.  You sound like an ambulance chasing lawyer.

  No lawyer talk.  Just what did I fail to read?  Sugar lump. 

Quote from: me on May 17, 2011, 06:45:01 PM

    Do ya think maybe the difference in the cost of being a surgeon could be involved in the price of the surgery?  Do their surgeons have the huge expense of malpractice ins that ours do thanks to attorney's suing for ridiculous amounts and frivolous suits. No, not all medical suits against surgeons or doctors fit into those categories but we have become a suit happy country and it drives the cost of insurance up dramatically for certain occupations. I imagine you sue a surgeon or doctor in India they're gonna tell you "sorry 'bout your bad luck"  and be done with ya.

Once again you fail to read.

Quote from: The Troll on May 17, 2011, 06:56:56 PM

    That is a problem going overseas.  No lawyer protection.  But if you don't have insurance to cover a $60,000 operation, you do $20, 000 in cash you can get the operation and get fixed and well.

      But If you had an operation here in the United States and the doctor put some wrong medicine in the wrong spot and put you in a wheel chair for life.  Would you sue?  Or would you say, well no one is perfect doc.  We will just forget about it.  I don't think so.  You would sue his ball off.