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Started by Exterminator, May 12, 2011, 02:21:57 PM

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Quote from: Palehorse on May 13, 2011, 07:45:24 PM
And how strange is it that the same individuals who parrot the drug propaganda when it comes to the sixties, are often the same ones who rail against the sitting POTUS?

Indicative of a change phobia?  :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:
And isn't it strange that there are those individuals that can't differentiate against someone being against a person from their being against that persons policies?   There is a difference ya know.   :razz:
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Quote from: me on May 13, 2011, 08:06:20 PM
And isn't it strange that there are those individuals that can't differentiate against someone being against a person from their being against that persons policies?   There is a difference ya know.   :razz:

It'd be nice if such could be actually proven. . . But most fail to even make the most modest of efforts to do so. . . because they can't!
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Quote from: Palehorse on May 13, 2011, 08:09:12 PM
It'd be nice if such could be actually proven. . . But most fail to even make the most modest of efforts to do so. . . because they can't!
We have said over and over and over why we don't like the policy and ya'll just won't listen is all or you prefer, not you personally but others, prefer to name call, put down, and change the subject rather than come back with a valid opinion.  You do say why you feel like you do and show what you feel is proof that the program should work but there is no valid proof that it indeed will because there js nothing to compare it to except to Romney's disaster in Massachusetts which is almost identical to what Obama wants and it isn't working at all and similar things overseas which aren't working either. 
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Sandy Eggo

Quote from: me on May 13, 2011, 08:19:50 PM
We have said over and over and over why we don't like the policy and ya'll just won't listen is all or you prefer, not you personally but others, prefer to name call, put down, and change the subject rather than come back with a valid opinion.  You do say why you feel like you do and show what you feel is proof that the program should work but there is no valid proof that it indeed will because there js nothing to compare it to except to Romney's disaster in Massachusetts which is almost identical to what Obama wants and it isn't working at all and similar things overseas which aren't working either.

Policies! Policies! Policies! You keep putting that word out there, in the plural, but yet only cite one policy ad nauseum. The funniest part about that is that it isn't his policy anymore. It was raped and pillaged by the Republicans.

I can't believe you don't see why someone would be suspicious.

As for name calling, save it sister...pot meet kettle!
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Quote from: me on May 13, 2011, 08:19:50 PM
We have said over and over and over why we don't like the policy and ya'll just won't listen is all or you prefer, not you personally but others, prefer to name call, put down, and change the subject rather than come back with a valid opinion.  You do say why you feel like you do and show what you feel is proof that the program should work but there is no valid proof that it indeed will because there js nothing to compare it to except to Romney's disaster in Massachusetts which is almost identical to what Obama wants and it isn't working at all and similar things overseas which aren't working either.

  Just look a :me: lie.  Romney's health care in Massachusetts is a success.  Also you so sensitive about name calling.  If you see a skunk you say skunk.  If you see a Republican, you say liar.   :yes: :yes: :yes:

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Quote from: The Troll on May 13, 2011, 09:49:05 PM
  Just look a :me: lie.  Romney's health care in Massachusetts is a success.  Also you so sensitive about name calling.  If you see a skunk you say skunk.  If you see a Republican, you say liar.   :yes: :yes: :yes:
I think you'd better check that out Troll.  Even he admits it is a failure.
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Quote from: Sandy Eggo on May 13, 2011, 08:58:33 PM
Policies! Policies! Policies! You keep putting that word out there, in the plural, but yet only cite one policy ad nauseum. The funniest part about that is that it isn't his policy anymore. It was raped and pillaged by the Republicans.

I can't believe you don't see why someone would be suspicious.

As for name calling, save it sister...pot meet kettle!
Health care, stimulus bill, energy policy, shall I go on?
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Sandy Eggo

Quote from: me on May 13, 2011, 10:24:12 PM
Health care, stimulus bill, energy policy, shall I go on?

As I've pointed out, the health care bill isn't his anymore. Minus one.

Are you sure the stimulus bill was Obama's brainchild? Might want to look that up. Exactly what do you dislike about the energy policy?

Please do go on, you're digging yourself deeper and deeper and I'm enjoying it. :yes:
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

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Quote from: Sandy Eggo on May 13, 2011, 10:44:01 PM
As I've pointed out, the health care bill isn't his anymore. Minus one.

Are you sure the stimulus bill was Obama's brainchild? Might want to look that up. Exactly what do you dislike about the energy policy?

Please do go on, you're digging yourself deeper and deeper and I'm enjoying it. :yes:

  Give up Sandy, I don't know wither the Obama health plan covers mental illness.  So there is nothing we can do for "ME".  Since I am a Atheist I sure can't pray for her.  :pray: :preach: :pope: and someone else put something in the pot for :me:  :biggrin:

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Quote from: Sandy Eggo on May 13, 2011, 10:44:01 PM
As I've pointed out, the health care bill isn't his anymore. Minus one.

Are you sure the stimulus bill was Obama's brainchild? Might want to look that up. Exactly what do you dislike about the energy policy?

Please do go on, you're digging yourself deeper and deeper and I'm enjoying it. :yes:
If it isn't Obama's health care bill then just exactly whose is it?  The stimulus bill was the brain child of the dem congress and he pushed it like a mad dog.  The energy bill is BS and will result in higher energy costs for everyone plus cost jobs just like it did in where it has already been implemented.  It turned out to be a total waste of money and saved very little. 
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Sandy Eggo

Quote from: me on May 14, 2011, 04:22:28 AM
If it isn't Obama's health care bill then just exactly whose is it?

Were you awake for the part where the Republicans took a promising bill and bastardized it into a Republican pork wet dream?

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Quote from: me on May 14, 2011, 04:22:28 AM
The stimulus bill was the brain child of the dem congress and he pushed it like a mad dog.

Besides the fact that quite a few Republicans had input and the fact that Bush had failed stimulus plans, this makes you dislike Obama how?


Quote from: me on May 14, 2011, 04:22:28 AMThe energy bill is BS and will result in higher energy costs for everyone plus cost jobs just like it did in where it has already been implemented.  It turned out to be a total waste of money and saved very little.

I'm sure you must be an expert considering that you used a technical term like "BS" to support your point :biggrin: But, humor me, explain how exactly it will be a total waste of money and cost jobs. While you're at it explain what you have against clean energy and if your answer is "nothing" what you would propose in place of the president's plan. Please spare no details. :smile:
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

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Quote from: me on May 13, 2011, 10:23:12 PM
I think you'd better check that out Troll.  Even he admits it is a failure.

  As old Dan Quail the Indiana Republican dumbass would say, "He's a flip flopper."  Romney will say any thing to win.  First in was for free choices now he isn't, next he was for a health care for the people in his state he was governor in. Now he's not.  Just where does he stand.  Guess what he's a lying flip flopper.  Thanks Danny Boy Quail  :eek:

  But for someone who made his millions of dollars, buying good healthy business and taking their assets and putting the business out of business and selling them off piece by piece.  Putting thousands of people out of work and made himself a millionaire.

  What a hell of a good religious Mormon. :doh:  :pray: :preach: :pope: :devil29:

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Quote from: Sandy Eggo on May 14, 2011, 08:15:40 AM
Were you awake for the part where the Republicans took a promising bill and bastardized it into a Republican pork wet dream?

bow chicka wow wow
The republicans have done nothing at this point because the dems are still in control of the final say.

QuoteBesides the fact that quite a few Republicans had input and the fact that Bush had failed stimulus plans, this makes you dislike Obama how?
Exactly what stimulus plan did Bush have that even made it out of the dem controlled congress?  The only one that actually made it was the one the dems wanted that Bush gave in and signed at the end of his term.


QuoteI'm sure you must be an expert considering that you used a technical term like "BS" to support your point :biggrin: But, humor me, explain how exactly it will be a total waste of money and cost jobs. While you're at it explain what you have against clean energy and if your answer is "nothing" what you would propose in place of the president's plan. Please spare no details. :smile:
Ask those in Ky who are not out of work because of those wonderful power saving light bulbs we can't produce  here because of regulations so their plant was shut down.  The light bulbs are more expensive so there is an increased cost to the consumer to light their home.  I have also noticed no difference in my light bill since using them and they are also a hazard if not disposed of properly.  You won't be able to sell a home unless it meets certain "green" standards.  Only certain materials can be used and they have to be installed by union people which increases the cost to home owners and puts people who could do just as good a job out of work plus the home owner who may be able to do just as good or better at the job can't do it himself.  It also puts companies out of work who produce similar products out of work because that product is no longer allowed because it doesn't meet the "green" standard even though it may be proven to work just as good.  Yes, there will be new green jobs but not as many as there will be jobs lost because of the standards and regulations.  *light bulbs.  Using corn for fuel didn't work in the 70's so why should it work now?  It is raising the cost of food to consumers which is a double whammy on top of the cost increase because of the gas prices and was found to be a worse pollutant than gas when it was used before. 

http://www.american.com/archive/2011/april/on-green-energy-renewable-energy-fails-to-green-the-u-k-economy

http://windconcernsontario.wordpress.com/2011/03/02/mcguintys-green-jobs-plan-could-kill-185000-jobs/

http://www.environmentaltrends.org/single/article/new-study-adds-uk-to-list-of-green-job-basket-cases.html
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  Let's have a sing along.   :music1: :me:  :me:  :me: :music1: I'm in love with :me: :me: :me: :music1: Screw all of the pollution and the union workers. :music1:  I'm in love with :me: :me: :me: :music1:

  :music1: and least you for get it I want you to remember. :music1: It's all about :me: :me: :me:  And ladies and gentlemen it is all about :me:    :doh:

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Quote from: The Troll on May 14, 2011, 11:58:41 AM
  Let's have a sing along.   :music1: :me:  :me:  :me: :music1: I'm in love with :me: :me: :me: :music1: Screw all of the pollution and the union workers. :music1:  I'm in love with :me: :me: :me: :music1:

  :music1: and least you for get it I want you to remember. :music1: It's all about :me: :me: :me:  And ladies and gentlemen it is all about :me:    :doh:
Hiring union workers to do work on your home should be by choice not a requirement when the same work can be done just a good and cheaper either by the home owner or someone who is non union.  As long as it is done to spec why should it matter?
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