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Started by Henry Hawk, March 31, 2011, 03:21:46 PM

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The Troll

Quote from: me on May 14, 2011, 01:09:53 PM
Ah that.  Well, to make a long story short I could not get good help, the pay was quite good for the type of job it was, and the ones I had chose to drink on the job and I decided to close rather than put up with the hassle.  From there on the rest is nonya. 

What does my having been a business owner have to do with anything involving corporation taxes anyway?  I was paying a high amount of taxes for the amount I was bringing in which looked good on paper but wasn't a true of actual cash in my pocket.  My employee's made more than I did which is just wrong any way you look at it.  I worked right along side them and worked just as hard or harder than they did so don't come back at me with that "you just sat on your ass and raked in the dough while they did all the work" crap.

  A good business plan is that you have to take care of yourself first, a fair day work for a fair days work.  If you can't make a profit you're doing something wrong.  You are not managing it right.  Your are not charging enough.  If you can't run a business where you have to do it with slave labor, even if it is yourself.  Then that business is not the business to be in.  It doesn't need to exist.

  Right now the corporations are using slave labor from other countries at our workers expense and our country expense.  It isn't right and it isn't fair.  Slavery in the United States is illegal.  And these companies that are using it needs to be put out of their slavery game.   Some body say Amen. :flag:

me

Quote from: The Troll on May 14, 2011, 01:51:37 PM
  A good business plan is that you have to take care of yourself first, a fair day work for a fair days work.  If you can't make a profit you're doing something wrong.  You are not managing it right.  Your are not charging enough.  If you can't run a business where you have to do it with slave labor, even if it is yourself.  Then that business is not the business to be in.  It doesn't need to exist.

  Right now the corporations are using slave labor from other countries at our workers expense and our country expense.  It isn't right and it isn't fair.  Slavery in the United States is illegal.  And these companies that are using it needs to be put out of their slavery game.   Some body say Amen. :flag:
Like I said I made a long story short and there are details which I do not care to divulge that would explain why the situation was what it was, as you dems are so fond of saying, the situation was not entirely my fault or my doing it was something that had gotten waaaay too far out of hand and I just didn't have the time or personality to deal with it.  I am not boss material I am a peon and proud of it and I don't even desire to be a boss. I'd much rather work and get dirty than sit on my ass and give directions to other people.
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Nighthawk

Quote from: The Troll on May 14, 2011, 01:51:37 PM
  A good business plan is that you have to take care of yourself first, a fair day work for a fair days work.  If you can't make a profit you're doing something wrong.  You are not managing it right.  Your are not charging enough.  If you can't run a business where you have to do it with slave labor, even if it is yourself.  Then that business is not the business to be in.  It doesn't need to exist.

  Right now the corporations are using slave labor from other countries at our workers expense and our country expense.  It isn't right and it isn't fair.  Slavery in the United States is illegal.  And these companies that are using it needs to be put out of their slavery game.   Some body say Amen. :flag:

So, GM needs to be put out of business then??

The Troll

Quote from: me on May 14, 2011, 04:06:13 PM
Like I said I made a long story short and there are details which I do not care to divulge that would explain why the situation was what it was, as you dems are so fond of saying, the situation was not entirely my fault or my doing it was something that had gotten waaaay too far out of hand and I just didn't have the time or personality to deal with it.  I am not boss material I am a peon and proud of it and I don't even desire to be a boss. I'd much rather work and get dirty than sit on my ass and give directions to other people.

  Everybody is like somebody else.  We have some.  I had a desk job in the army.  Had my own section of the information office drove all of the newspaper reporters and the officers around and wore class A Uniforms ever day with tie.  I would not want to be tied to a desk again.  I will do about anything, sweat, get very dirty even with human feces.   But I will want good money to do it.  No shitty slave pay.

  I ran my little plumbing Co. by myself for over 40 years and believe me I took care of myself pay wise.  Why work for nothing.  There are people who wants everything for nothing and  they will work you to bankruptcy.  Then they will say, he was a good plumber, but I wonder how long he would last working for nothing and then laugh about it.

  But you are a good Republican, because just like you said.  "I wasn't my fault."  Nothing is ever the Republicans fault.  :biggrin:

The Troll

Quote from: Nighthawk on May 14, 2011, 04:12:04 PM
So, GM needs to be put out of business then??

  Ugly weak footed bird.  What people does GM work for slave wages here in America?  Can you, just one time come out of you little outer space world and say something smart.  You really can't be as stupid as you appear.  :doh:  :flap:

  It would be really nice to talk to someone who tried to act like they had a brain.  I keep hoping you will wise.  Hope is eternal.   You are just like the Tea Party Republicans, you will never wise up.  What more can I say.  :4th5:

Nighthawk

Quote from: The Troll on May 14, 2011, 04:35:14 PM
  Ugly weak footed bird.  What people does GM work for slave wages here in America?  Can you, just one time come out of you little outer space world and say something smart.  You really can't be as stupid as you appear.  :doh:  :flap:

  It would be really nice to talk to someone who tried to act like they had a brain.  I keep hoping you will wise.  Hope is eternal.   You are just like the Tea Party Republicans, you will never wise up.  What more can I say.  :4th5:

You said any business that uses slave labor should be closed and GM uses 'slave' labor. So, again, should GM be closed?

The Troll

Quote from: Nighthawk on May 14, 2011, 04:41:21 PM
You said any business that uses slave labor should be closed and GM uses 'slave' labor. So, again, should GM be closed?

  Come on, tell he where GM uses slave labor.  If you can't tell me.  GM doesn't import any cars expect Canada and Europe.  I don't think you can call they slave countries.  Cut the bullshit give me a straight answer.   What a mooorooon.  :rolleyes: Or are you picking fly shit out of the black pepper again.  :razz:

me

Quote from: The Troll on May 14, 2011, 04:24:26 PM
  Everybody is like somebody else.  We have some.  I had a desk job in the army.  Had my own section of the information office drove all of the newspaper reporters and the officers around and wore class A Uniforms ever day with tie.  I would not want to be tied to a desk again.  I will do about anything, sweat, get very dirty even with human feces.   But I will want good money to do it.  No shitty slave pay.

  I ran my little plumbing Co. by myself for over 40 years and believe me I took care of myself pay wise.  Why work for nothing.  There are people who wants everything for nothing and  they will work you to bankruptcy.  Then they will say, he was a good plumber, but I wonder how long he would last working for nothing and then laugh about it.

  But you are a good Republican, because just like you said.  "I wasn't my fault."  Nothing is ever the Republicans fault.  :biggrin:
So what you're doing in essence is putting me down because you think you're better than me because you feel your time is worth more and I felt I wanted to keep prices down so more people could afford my service and still be able to pay my employee's more and wasn't quite able to manage it and still have a clean conscience.  Is that correct? 
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Nighthawk

Quote from: The Troll on May 14, 2011, 04:54:29 PM
  Come on, tell he where GM uses slave labor.  If you can't tell me.  GM doesn't import any cars expect Canada and Europe.  I don't think you can call they slave countries.  Cut the bullshit give me a straight answer.   What a mooorooon.  :rolleyes: Or are you picking fly shit out of the black pepper again.  :razz:

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2011/apr2011/gmin-a15.shtml

The Troll

Quote from: me on May 14, 2011, 05:36:56 PM
So what you're doing in essence is putting me down because you think you're better than me because you feel your time is worth more and I felt I wanted to keep prices down so more people could afford my service and still be able to pay my employee's more and wasn't quite able to manage it and still have a clean conscience.  Is that correct?

  Well maybe that was the turning point in you life.  From giving which didn't work because people took advantage of you.  To being greedy and wanting to get even.  What did I just say, if your prices are to low people don't care if you do the business or not.  They will use you all up and laugh about it.

  Ask you buddy Squawk if he deliberately keeps his price low to save his customers money.  The greedy weasel would take the copper coins out a dead man eyes to make two extra cents.  Just like a millionaire told me when I started my business, don't do business with people who don't have money.  If you do they will stick it to you.   "I didn't get this rich dealing with people with no money."  I didn't totally believe it and had to go to small claim court and learn the hard way.  To get the dead beats to pay.  I don't think there is any hope for you.  :no: :no: :no:

The Troll

Quote from: Nighthawk on May 14, 2011, 06:23:24 PM
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2011/apr2011/gmin-a15.shtml

What about it.  They are Indian workers making Indian cars, which don't come here.

  They are trying to form a union just like the men here in the United States years and years ago and you Prince Valiant, you think unions should be illegal.  I thought you said that  auto workers didn't have rights.  What a moooroooon.  :jester:

Nighthawk

Quote from: The Troll on May 14, 2011, 07:07:23 PM
What about it.  They are Indian workers making Indian cars, which don't come here.

  They are trying to form a union just like the men here in the United States years and years ago and you Prince Valiant, you think unions should be illegal.  I thought you said that  auto workers didn't have rights.  What a moooroooon.  :jester:

That's what I figured. You condemn 'slavery' only in this country if it happens in another country it's fine to you. Never mind that you were touting GM showing a profit as a good thing even though they did it in part on the backs of those workers in India. You accuse me of not caring about other people when it is in fact you who doesn't care as evidenced by your post here.

I get really tired of repeating myself to you. maybe you just don't understand but I have repeatedly said that unions had their place years ago and made real changes for the workers here. It is now that they have too much power and are making things worse for the workers and this country and need to go.

And again your show your reading comprehension to be severly lacking. The article clearly states that they already have a union. I would also like you to point out where I ever said that auto workers have no rights. Or is this another accusation about me you pulled out of your ass.

I expected no less from you. Since this is one of your presious companies that uses union labor they can do NO wrong in your eyes and you will defend them no matter what. Kinda like your messiah in the white house.

The Troll

Quote from: Nighthawk on May 14, 2011, 07:21:05 PM
That's what I figured. You condemn 'slavery' only in this country if it happens in another country it's fine to you. Never mind that you were touting GM showing a profit as a good thing even though they did it in part on the backs of those workers in India. You accuse me of not caring about other people when it is in fact you who doesn't care as evidenced by your post here.

I get really tired of repeating myself to you. maybe you just don't understand but I have repeatedly said that unions had their place years ago and made real changes for the workers here. It is now that they have too much power and are making things worse for the workers and this country and need to go.

And again your show your reading comprehension to be severly lacking. The article clearly states that they already have a union. I would also like you to point out where I ever said that auto workers have no rights. Or is this another accusation about me you pulled out of your ass.

I expected no less from you. Since this is one of your presious companies that uses union labor they can do NO wrong in your eyes and you will defend them no matter what. Kinda like your messiah in the white house.

  Well I get sick of  your self serving attitude.  Always taking what someone says out of contex.  You are totally wrong on everything.  But scabs like you, you can lick the bottoms of a working man's shoes.  My god you are one of the most stupid person I have every ran into.  Your are not only a scab your a festering scab on America's ass.  :azz:

  May Obama, The Democrats, the unions live well and strong and let the scabs of the earth starve.  :4th3:

Nighthawk

Quote from: The Troll on May 14, 2011, 07:49:23 PM
  Well I get sick of  your self serving attitude.  Always taking what someone says out of contex.  You are totally wrong on everything.  But scabs like you, you can lick the bottoms of a working man's shoes.  My god you are one of the most stupid person I have every ran into.  Your are not only a scab your a festering scab on America's ass.  :azz:

  May Obama, The Democrats, the unions live well and strong and let the scabs of the earth starve.  :4th3:

Aww, whatta matter again? Did I hurt your itty bitty feewins again?

I have never seen a bigger hypocrite in my life. Your posts over the last few days prove that. You can hide behind your hate and anger all you want but we all know that you are just a scared little boy who is afraid to even admit when you are wrong. Adults can admit their mistakes and learn from them but you are incapable of this.

Go ahead and call me all the names you want. Insult to your heart's content. But remember, I can see through your little charade and know you for exactly what you are. The more insults you throw, the more hate you spew, the smaller and more insignificant you become.

The Troll

Quote from: Nighthawk on May 14, 2011, 09:29:44 PM
Aww, whatta matter again? Did I hurt your itty bitty feewins again?

I have never seen a bigger hypocrite in my life. Your posts over the last few days prove that. You can hide behind your hate and anger all you want but we all know that you are just a scared little boy who is afraid to even admit when you are wrong. Adults can admit their mistakes and learn from them but you are incapable of this.

Go ahead and call me all the names you want. Insult to your heart's content. But remember, I can see through your little charade and know you for exactly what you are. The more insults you throw, the more hate you spew, the smaller and more insignificant you become.

  You have gotten me to the point of over reaching the rules of the Unknown Zone.  Wither you are a Goat Sucker, a Bull Bat, a Night Jar, a Mosquito Hawk or a Night Hawk that little ugly dull, weak footed, big mouth bird has a place in mature.  I can't say you're a Vulture for they have a place in nature, snake, Jackals, Skunks, Wolfs all have a place in in nature.

  But a No See Ummm.  A blood sucking gnat,bitting midges or punkies would be a good avatar for you.  Thousand of them all most invisible blood suckers, who little small bites cause small water filled itchy blisters.  Making is miserable for horse eyes, all animal and human life and has no reason to exist.

  I am going to treat you just like the other people I have total disdain for.  Just sit back and occasionally correct some of your idiot statements.  But other than that I going to put on Deep Woods Off with extra Deet and let you show your ass.  Have a nice day.  :kiss: