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Started by The Troll, March 09, 2011, 05:50:22 PM

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Anne

Four years ago gas was less than $2 a gallon, today it is $3.89, milk was about $1.50, today it is $2.50, hamburger was about $2 a pound and now it is about $4 a pound. My income went up about $20 last year. We do not buy a house, car, washer, dryer, boat, etc., every year and although we are financially ok right now, generally I would say we are not as well off as we were four years ago. My uncle told me we our income should be triple our total expenses when we retired so if we lived 30 years after we retired we would still have enough money. I am glad we listened to him.  Of course, this is just our particular situation.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

Locutus

Gas prices at that time were a result of decreased demand due to the global economic downturn, and the increase since then has nothing to do with Obama.  Obama can't control gas prices any more than Bush could have. 

One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Bo D

Quote from: me on September 05, 2012, 01:37:09 PM
Our problem is we're not impressed or dazzled by graphs and charts we can't read and we don't understand anything that requires thinking.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Bo D

I repeat .....


AVERAGE NUMBER OF JOBS CREATED PER MONTH BY THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION: 20,000

AVERAGE NUMBER OF JOBS CREATED PER MONTH BY THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION EXCLUDING THE DISASTROUS LAST YEAR: 65,000

NUMBER OF MONTHS IN THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION IN WHICH THERE WERE 500,000 OR MORE JOBS CREATED: 0.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Henry Hawk

 
The AVERAGE Unemployment rate under Bush was 5.2%...With the bulk of that time around 4.3%....

So, I say, with two wars, 9/11, Katrina.....all in all THAT is pretty darn good.....despite only generating 20,000 jobs per month....it couldn't get TOO much better.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Anne

Quote from: Locutus on September 05, 2012, 03:03:54 PM
Gas prices at that time were a result of decreased demand due to the global economic downturn, and the increase since then has nothing to do with Obama.  Obama can't control gas prices any more than Bush could have.

That doesn't address food prices, and they were going up before the bad weather this summer.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 05, 2012, 04:02:22 PM

The AVERAGE Unemployment rate under Bush was 5.2%...With the bulk of that time around 4.3%....

So, I say, with two wars, 9/11, Katrina.....all in all THAT is pretty darn good.....despite only generating 20,000 jobs per month....it couldn't get TOO much better.

  OMG!  Talking about bats in the belfry, Henry's belfry is full.  If it wasn't for the two lying wars, war manufacturing running wide open, the lowest interest in history so people could go deeper in debt.  George W. economy would have fell on it ass a lot sooner.  But Old Lonesome George W. was luck enough to pass the shitty economy to Obama.   :dam:

  And Old Bat Shit Crazy Hawk, calls George W. term as President a success. :doh:  If so why wasn't George W. at the Republican Convention.  What a joke.  :haha:  :haha:

  With Hawk figures lie and liars figure.  :trustme:   :thumbsup:

Locutus

Quote from: Anne on September 05, 2012, 04:18:34 PM
That doesn't address food prices, and they were going up before the bad weather this summer.

Of course it does.  Goods don't just automatically show up at the grocery store.  As you know, they're trucked in and what does that require?  Gas.  Higher gas prices have ramifications for just about every area of the economy.
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 05, 2012, 04:02:22 PM

The AVERAGE Unemployment rate under Bush was 5.2%...With the bulk of that time around 4.3%....

So, I say, with two wars, 9/11, Katrina.....all in all THAT is pretty darn good.....despite only generating 20,000 jobs per month....it couldn't get TOO much better.

So, you're suggesting that you, personally, did well financially during Bush's tenure; is that correct?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Bo D

Quote from: me on September 05, 2012, 01:37:09 PM
Our problem is we're not impressed or dazzled by graphs and charts because they can reflect anything the person doing them wants to reflect by juggling figures here and there.  They, on the other hand, are impressed and dazzled and more easily fooled.  The more charts and big words the person who wants to make a point use the more impressed they are, common sense and logic gets pushed aside and they forget to look at the real world and the big picture.

This is one of the nuttiest posts I have ever seen. First she posts an article with a lot of words that have more than four letters; and it contains some pretty pictures. Then when she is shown that those very same charts SHE posted prove that the housing market is recovering, she reverts to babbling like a fool.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

The Troll

Quote from: Olias on September 06, 2012, 08:47:43 AM
This is one of the nuttiest posts I have ever seen. First she posts an article with a lot of words that have more than four letters; and it contains some pretty pictures. Then when she is shown that those very same charts SHE posted prove that the housing market is recovering, she reverts to babbling like a fool.

  So true, so true.  :thumbsup:  :salute:

Anne

Quote from: Locutus on September 05, 2012, 04:31:15 PM
Of course it does.  Goods don't just automatically show up at the grocery store.  As you know, they're trucked in and what does that require?  Gas.  Higher gas prices have ramifications for just about every area of the economy.

Again, the question was are you better off than you were four years ago, my answer is no, I don't remember blaming it on President Obama, whatever the reason, prices are higher and income is not keeping up with the prices. Do you expect prices to go down? Has your income increased by 25% or even 10%? I don't personally know anyone whose income has increased by even 10% the last four years.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

The Troll

Quote from: Anne on September 06, 2012, 03:58:34 PM
Again, the question was are you better off than you were four years ago, my answer is no, I don't remember blaming it on President Obama, whatever the reason, prices are higher and income is not keeping up with the prices. Do you expect prices to go down? Has your income increased by 25% or even 10%? I don't personally know anyone whose income has increased by even 10% the last four years.

  Yes price have went up.   Why I can remember when I was a kid I could get a Pepsi for a dime and it was twice as big as a coke.  Remember the big candy bars you could buy for a nickle and the paper wrapper fitted, not like now when the wrapper is twice as big as the candy bar.

   I also can remember when I was sixteen and I had my first car a 1935 Hudson Terriplane and I could go over to Pendleton and buy gasoline for 13.9 cents a gallon.  Buy a whole set of Sears and Roebuck tires for a 135 dollars, balance and installed with on fee for the old tires.

  Just think oil that came out of the ground cost nothing and a dollar a barrel to pump just like to day.  But back then we had many, many oil companies, now we have four and they are screwing us to death.  I suppose you think we the taxpayers should still give oil companies a tax cut and money like they do today.

  I sure don't want to go back when I was really poor and I sure wish that our politicians would work for the good of the country instead fighting and not doing anything.  Both sides. 

  Yes I have been told many times by my mother how I was born in a cold upstairs bedroom in a big old farm house on a cold snow day December 4, 1937 and how the doctor came over from Coldwater to delivery me during the Herbert Hoover depression.  No, I don't want to go back. 

  I also can remember in 1961 when I was in the army at Fort Knox.  I could go over to the PX and buy Camel, Lucky Strike cigarettes for a dollar and a quarter a carton.  But I don't want to go back to that time when I had to work off my as for 63 cents an hour working for a grocery store and a farmer.   Yes, the good old days.

Exterminator

Quote from: Anne on September 06, 2012, 03:58:34 PM
I don't personally know anyone whose income has increased by even 10% the last four years.

Mine has as has pretty much everyone's in the company I work for...a little over 10% in the past four years, actually.  Now go look at how much the pay has increased in the past four years for CEO's and the asshats on Wall Street that caused this mess in the first place.  You worship a false idol.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

followsthewolf

 I don't personally know anyone whose income has increased by even 10% the last four years.


Mine has increased ~8%

Same as my colleagues.
Ignorance and fanaticism are ravenous. They require constant feeding.