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[The Troll]

You seem to be forgetting what it costs for the hotel rooms which is pretty salty plus the food.  There is also the mileage to consider which is considerably more to travel overseas than from DC to Texas.  Then you have to figure in the factor that a lot of those trips were working trips where he met with foreign leaders so they weren't vacations.

  What was it you Republican smart asses said when Bush stole the election?  Why it was, "get over it we won".  Well smart asses we won and Obama won and he won for the second time.  So get over it and if you dumb asses don't smarten up you're going to lose in the next to elections.  At least that what I want.

  Why, because the dumb to the bone Christians and   

[Exterminator]

Not trillions, but....$1.283 trillion for "military operations, base security, reconstruction, foreign aid, embassy costs, and veterans' health care for the three operations initiated since the 9/11 attacks." Those three operations include Operation Enduring Freedom (OEF) Afghanistan; Operation Noble Eagle (ONE), providing enhanced security at military bases; and Operation Iraqi Freedom (OIF).

Wrong.

[me]

And the younger generation wants to blame the older generation for the problems today?  Go figure.    Ya, it's a FB thing but think about it.


Checking out at the store, the young cashier suggested to the older woman, that she should bring her own grocery bags because plastic bags weren't good for the environment.

The woman apologized and explained, "We didn't have this green thing back in my earlier days." The young clerk responded, "That's our problem today. Your generation did not care enough to save our environment f or future generations."

She was right -- our generation didn't have the green thing in its day.

Back then, we returned milk bottles, soda bottles and beer bottles to the store. The store sent them back to the plant to be washed and sterilized and refilled, so it could use the same bottles over and over. So they really were truly recycled. But we didn't have the green thing back in our day.

Grocery stores bagged our groceries in brown paper bags, that we reused for numerous things, most memorable besides household garbage bags, was the use of brown paper bags as book covers for our schoolbooks. This was to ensure that public property, (the books provided for our use by the school) was not defaced by our scribbling's. Then we were able to personalize our books on the brown paper bags. But too bad we didn't do the green thing back then.

We walked up stairs, because we didn't have an escalator in every store and office building. We walked to the grocery store and didn't climb into a 300-horsepower machine every time we had to go two blocks. But she was right. We didn't have the green thing in our day.

Back then, we washed the baby's diapers because we didn't have the throwaway kind. We dried clothes on a line, not in an energy-gobbling machine burning up 220 volts -- wind and solar power really did dry our clothes back in our early days. Kids got hand-me-down clothes from their brothers or sisters, not always brand-new clothing. But that young lady is right; we didn't have the green thing back in our day.

Back then, we had one TV, or radio, in the house -- not a TV in every room. And the TV had a small screen the size of a handkerchief (remember them?), not a screen the size of the state of Montana.

In the kitchen, we blended and stirred by hand because we didn't have electric machines to do everything for us. When we packaged a fragile item to send in the mail, we used wadded up old newspapers to cushion it, not Styrofoam or plastic bubble wrap.

Back then, we didn't fire up an engine and burn gasoline just to cut the lawn. We used a push mower that ran on human power. We exercised by working so we didn't need to go to a health club to run on treadmills that operate on electricity. But she's right; we didn't have the green thing back then.

We drank from a fountain when we were thirsty instead of using a cup or a plastic bottle every time we had a drink of water. We refilled writing pens with ink instead of buying a new pen, and we replaced the razor blades in a razor instead of throwing away the whole razor just because the blade got dull. But we didn't have the green thing back then.

Back then, people took the streetcar or a bus and kids rode their bikes to school or walked instead of turning their moms into a 24-hour taxi service. We had one electrical outlet in a room, not an entire bank of sockets to power a dozen appliances. And we didn't need a computerized gadget to receive a signal beamed from satellites 23,000 miles out in space in order to find the nearest burger joint.

But isn't it sad the current generation laments how wasteful we old folks were just because we didn't have the green thing back then?

[Palehorse]

You seem to be forgetting what it costs for the hotel rooms which is pretty salty plus the food.  There is also the mileage to consider which is considerably more to travel overseas than from DC to Texas.  Then you have to figure in the factor that a lot of those trips were working trips where he met with foreign leaders so they weren't vacations.

WACO, Tex., Aug. 2 -- President Bush is getting the kind of break most Americans can only dream of -- nearly five weeks away from the office, loaded with vacation time.

The president departed Tuesday for his longest stretch yet away from the White House, arriving at his Crawford ranch in the evening to clear brush, visit with family and friends, and tend to some outside-the-Beltway politics. By historical standards, it is the longest presidential retreat in at least 36 years.

The August getaway is Bush's 49th trip to his cherished ranch since taking office and Tuesday was the 319th day that Bush has spent, entirely or partially, in Crawford -- roughly 20 percent of his presidency to date, according to Mark Knoller, a CBS Radio reporter known for keeping better records of the president's travel than the White House itself. Weekends and holidays at Camp David or at his parents' compound in Kennebunkport, Maine, bump up the proportion of Bush's time away from Washington even further. . . . noted that he spent a month at the ranch shortly before the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, when critics assert he should have been more attentive to warning signs.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/02/AR2005080201703.html

Bush spent 1020 days on vacation and away from the Whitehouse while POTUS. More than any other POTUS since Hoover.

Bush passed Reagan in total vacation days in 2005 with three and a half years left in his presidency. Reagan spent all or part of 335 days in Santa Barbara over his 8 year presidency.  Bush spent 487 days at Camp David during his presidency and 490 days at his Crawford, Texas ranch, a total of 977 days. When you add the days President Bush spent at Kennebunkport, Maine, he spent a total of 1,020 days away from the White House — close to 3 years. 

So really, tell me how many hotels and meals did Bush have to cover? None. We covered them for the entire 3 years he spent on vacation while in office.

[Henry Hawk]

You act as if there is a difference between a trip home or a trip overseas, when in reality there isn't.

You seriously think this?  It is reported that Obama spends $5 million on each trip to Hawaii.  Bush went to HIS own house, and still worked.  He just had his own land to bike on and he would often cut wood and work around the house to unwind. 

I want to say AGAIN, that I still don't have a problem with vactations for POTUS, but when things are hard, it would be nice to see SOME consolation by him from his extravigant trips.........and I want to point out once AGAIN that it was these words that Obama himself said:

"Essentially the bargain that any president, I think, strikes with the American  people is: 'you give me this office and in turn my fears, doubts, insecurities,  foibles, need for sleep, family life, vacations, leisure is gone. I am giving  myself to you.' And the American people should have no patience for whatever is  going through your head because you've got a job to do,"

[Palehorse]

You seriously think this?  It is reported that Obama spends $5 million on each trip to Hawaii.  Bush went to HIS own house, and still worked.  He just had his own land to bike on and he would often cut wood and work around the house to unwind. 

I want to say AGAIN, that I still don't have a problem with vactations for POTUS, but when things are hard, it would be nice to see SOME consolation by him from his extravigant trips.........and I want to point out once AGAIN that it was these words that Obama himself said:

"Essentially the bargain that any president, I think, strikes with the American  people is: 'you give me this office and in turn my fears, doubts, insecurities,  foibles, need for sleep, family life, vacations, leisure is gone. I am giving  myself to you.' And the American people should have no patience for whatever is  going through your head because you've got a job to do,"

WACO, Tex., Aug. 2 -- President Bush is getting the kind of break most Americans can only dream of -- nearly five weeks away from the office, loaded with vacation time.

The president departed Tuesday for his longest stretch yet away from the White House, arriving at his Crawford ranch in the evening to clear brush, visit with family and friends, and tend to some outside-the-Beltway politics. By historical standards, it is the longest presidential retreat in at least 36 years.

The August getaway is Bush's 49th trip to his cherished ranch since taking office and Tuesday was the 319th day that Bush has spent, entirely or partially, in Crawford -- roughly 20 percent of his presidency to date, according to Mark Knoller, a CBS Radio reporter known for keeping better records of the president's travel than the White House itself. Weekends and holidays at Camp David or at his parents' compound in Kennebunkport, Maine, bump up the proportion of Bush's time away from Washington even further. . . . noted that he spent a month at the ranch shortly before the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, when critics assert he should have been more attentive to warning signs.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/02/AR2005080201703.html

Bush spent 1020 days on vacation and away from the Whitehouse while POTUS. More than any other POTUS since Hoover.

Bush passed Reagan in total vacation days in 2005 with three and a half years left in his presidency. Reagan spent all or part of 335 days in Santa Barbara over his 8 year presidency.  Bush spent 487 days at Camp David during his presidency and 490 days at his Crawford, Texas ranch, a total of 977 days. When you add the days President Bush spent at Kennebunkport, Maine, he spent a total of 1,020 days away from the White House — close to 3 years. 

So really, tell me how many hotels and meals did Bush have to cover? None. We covered them for the entire 3 years he spent on vacation while in office.

[Exterminator]

Bush spent 487 days at Camp David during his presidency and 490 days at his Crawford, Texas ranch, a total of 977 days. When you add the days President Bush spent at Kennebunkport, Maine, he spent a total of 1,020 days away from the White House — close to 3 years.

So really, tell me how many hotels and meals did Bush have to cover? None. We covered them for the entire 3 years he spent on vacation while in office.

Yeah but he's white.

[me]

WACO, Tex., Aug. 2 -- President Bush is getting the kind of break most Americans can only dream of -- nearly five weeks away from the office, loaded with vacation time.

The president departed Tuesday for his longest stretch yet away from the White House, arriving at his Crawford ranch in the evening to clear brush, visit with family and friends, and tend to some outside-the-Beltway politics. By historical standards, it is the longest presidential retreat in at least 36 years.

The August getaway is Bush's 49th trip to his cherished ranch since taking office and Tuesday was the 319th day that Bush has spent, entirely or partially, in Crawford -- roughly 20 percent of his presidency to date, according to Mark Knoller, a CBS Radio reporter known for keeping better records of the president's travel than the White House itself. Weekends and holidays at Camp David or at his parents' compound in Kennebunkport, Maine, bump up the proportion of Bush's time away from Washington even further. . . . noted that he spent a month at the ranch shortly before the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, when critics assert he should have been more attentive to warning signs.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/02/AR2005080201703.html

Bush spent 1020 days on vacation and away from the Whitehouse while POTUS. More than any other POTUS since Hoover.

Bush passed Reagan in total vacation days in 2005 with three and a half years left in his presidency. Reagan spent all or part of 335 days in Santa Barbara over his 8 year presidency.  Bush spent 487 days at Camp David during his presidency and 490 days at his Crawford, Texas ranch, a total of 977 days. When you add the days President Bush spent at Kennebunkport, Maine, he spent a total of 1,020 days away from the White House — close to 3 years. 

So really, tell me how many hotels and meals did Bush have to cover? None. We covered them for the entire 3 years he spent on vacation while in office.

What they called vacation days weren't a true vacation. They failed to mention he still had his daily briefings, which Obama rarely attends even when in the WH, still met with foreign leaders, still took care of business.  You can't pick and choose the parts of the info that fit your agenda and ignore the actual facts.  Obama's vacations are vacations to lavish places at a very high cost as well as are Michelle's and the girls so quit trying to spin this and excuse Obama's behavior at a time when belt tightening should be in order. 

[Henry Hawk]

"Essentially the bargain that any president, I think, strikes with the American  people is: 'you give me this office and in turn my fears, doubts, insecurities,  foibles, need for sleep, family life, vacations, leisure is gone. I am giving  myself to you.' And the American people should have no patience for whatever is  going through your head because you've got a job to do,"



he lied!

[Exterminator]

Yeah but he's white.

See what I mean? 

[Bo D]

What they called vacation days weren't a true vacation. They failed to mention he still had his daily briefings, which Obama rarely attends even when in the WH, still met with foreign leaders, still took care of business. 

Do you have a source for this allegation?



   "The President is among the most sophisticated consumers of intelligence on the planet," National Security Council spokesman Tommy Vietor wrote in an e-mail. "He receives and reads his [Presidential Daily Brief] every day, and most days when he's at the White House receives a briefing in person. When necessary he probes the arguments, requests more information or seeks alternate analysis. Sometimes that's via a written assessment and other times it's in person."

    The president also has frequent national security meetings beyond the daily briefing, and would also be briefed on the latest intelligence before meeting with a foreign leader, for example.

    "Marc basically wrote a story culled from our public schedule that shows how Marc's old boss, President Bush, structured his day differently than President Obama," Vietor wrote. "Not exactly breaking news to anyone who has covered this place for the last few years." [Politico, 9/10/12]


What is BAD is when a president attends a briefing and ignores what is being discussed. As in "bin Laden determined to attack in the U.S.". George WMD Bush.

[Exterminator]

Do you have a source for this allegation?

Appears to be yet another entry for the TUZ lie tracker!

[me]

Appears to be yet another entry for the TUZ lie tracker!

The go for it big boy.  I've learned that no matter what I give as proof ya'll are gonna discount it anyway so who gives a rats ass. 

[Bo D]

The go for it big boy.  I've learned that no matter what I give as proof ya'll are gonna discount it anyway so who gives a rats ass.

Translation: I just pulled another one out of my a$$.

[Exterminator]

Translation: I just pulled another one out of my a$$.