War On Police???

[Anne]

I believe the post office, stock brokers, and bankers are more likely to attack and kill those who they think are the cause of their problems (their boss, the bank, etc.) than go out and shoot a police officer, which is what this thread is about, killing police officers.

[Palehorse]

I believe the post office, stock brokers, and bankers are more likely to attack and kill those who they think are the cause of their problems (their boss, the bank, etc.) than go out and shoot a police officer, which is what this thread is about, killing police officers.

Really? So in your mind the police have no responsibility surrounding dealing with these people when they go bonkers?

The fact is, regardless of whether or not they inflict death upon those they blame, in the end they are confronted by law enforcement; and typically that is after they have crossed the point of no return and have nothing further to lose. Their anger and frustration is already unleashed, and their ability to control their thoughts and decisions are at their lowest point. . . Killing one or several more people who happen to wear a badge is of no consequence to them. . .

There will always be an element of sociopathic human beings involved within these types of incidents, however to shrug off my theory surrounding the root cause for a portion of these recent incidents as being driven by the economic decline of this country is not exercising due diligence.

Just a little over a year ago, in 2009, national law enforcement advocates were touting the achievement of a fifty year low in police officer deaths in the line of duty. But last year those statistics took a sudden turn for the worse, surging by 40 percent to 162 officers being killed in the line of duty in 2010. And while certainly the sociopaths twisted disregard for human life plays a role in those statistics, the failure of their traditional social support systems is clearly driving this surge as well.

That support system typically entails the support of family and friends as they go through the re-acclimation into society. Obtaining gainful employment is also a key attribute for the newly released felon, and when college educated and experienced individuals cannot find employment in this country just how hard do you think it is for a convicted felon to obtain employment?

Moreover, when those friends and family are finding it hard to provide for themselves and retain employment, just how much discretionary cash do you think they have to help supplement the newly released felons life? How much food do yo think they have to help feed him? Housing? You get the idea.

So, while these individuals (felons) may indeed be more inclined than the average citizen to cross the line toward violent behaviors, in my mind the poor state of this economy is facilitating these incidents where they involve individuals with felony convictions,

Additionally, of the 162 fatal incidents in the last year, a portion of them included individuals that had no previous negative contact with law enforcement, but involved law abiding citizens that snapped due to the pressures of their lives. One has to wonder what those pressure were, and I believe it is a safe bet to assume they were related to the loss of gainful employment and mounting financial pressures related to the loss of income and an inability to replace that income.

Last year a record 1 million families were put out their homes across this country, and for each one of them the event is a very strong indication of desperate conditions within their personal lives. How may of them do you think reached the breaking point? How many of them are on the brink? How many more do you think will be moved toward irrational actions as a direct result of this?

[Anne]

Really? So in your mind the police have no responsibility surrounding dealing with these people when they go bonkers?

The fact is, regardless of whether or not they inflict death upon those they blame, in the end they are confronted by law enforcement; and typically that is after they have crossed the point of no return and have nothing further to lose. Their anger and frustration is already unleashed, and their ability to control their thoughts and decisions are at their lowest point. . . Killing one or several more people who happen to wear a badge is of no consequence to them. . .

Many of those people end up killing themselves.

There will always be an element of sociopathic human beings involved within these types of incidents, however to shrug off my theory surrounding the root cause for a portion of these recent incidents as being driven by the economic decline of this country is not exercising due diligence.

Just a little over a year ago, in 2009, national law enforcement advocates were touting the achievement of a fifty year low in police officer deaths in the line of duty. But last year those statistics took a sudden turn for the worse, surging by 40 percent to 162 officers being killed in the line of duty in 2010. And while certainly the sociopaths twisted disregard for human life plays a role in those statistics, the failure of their traditional social support systems is clearly driving this surge as well.

That support system typically entails the support of family and friends as they go through the re-acclimation into society. Obtaining gainful employment is also a key attribute for the newly released felon, and when college educated and experienced individuals cannot find employment in this country just how hard do you think it is for a convicted felon to obtain employment?

Depends on what he/she is willing to do.

Moreover, when those friends and family are finding it hard to provide for themselves and retain employment, just how much discretionary cash do you think they have to help supplement the newly released felons life? How much food do yo think they have to help feed him? Housing? You get the idea.

So, while these individuals (felons) may indeed be more inclined than the average citizen to cross the line toward violent behaviors, in my mind the poor state of this economy is facilitating these incidents where they involve individuals with felony convictions,

Additionally, of the 162 fatal incidents in the last year, a portion of them included individuals that had no previous negative contact with law enforcement, but involved law abiding citizens that snapped due to the pressures of their lives. One has to wonder what those pressure were, and I believe it is a safe bet to assume they were related to the loss of gainful employment and mounting financial pressures related to the loss of income and an inability to replace that income.

Last year a record 1 million families were put out their homes across this country, and for each one of them the event is a very strong indication of desperate conditions within their personal lives. How may of them do you think reached the breaking point? How many of them are on the brink? How many more do you think will be moved toward irrational actions as a direct result of this?

I don't doubt that there are a few instances that are what you say they are, but I still believe the vast number of policemen who are killed with a weapon are killed by people who have no respect for anyone and are either career criminals, just plain evil or mentally ill.

[Y]

With 11 Police Officers killed across the country in the last week or 10 days, it is no surprise to hear local news and media espousing about the possibility of a supposed "war on police". But truthfully I do not believe this to be the case, and if you think about the things I am going to say here, I believe you will not either...

It gets worse.  Some jackass thinks it's all an evil conspiracy by the left.   

I suggest that's it's the typical propaganda from the 'Thin Blue Line' and the RW Law and Order crowd using these unfortunate incidents to promote their agenda and for political/personal gain.

[The Troll]

I suggest that's it's the typical propaganda from the 'Thin Blue Line' and the RW Law and Order crowd using these unfortunate incidents to promote their agenda and for political/personal gain.

  If you believe the news media, all of the cops can walk water and gods on earth.  Plus is takes all of the police cars in Indiana to bury them.  I would like to see that money go to the widows and orphans.  The amount of benefits to them are pathetic and hardly feed a large dog.  So much for state benefits for cops killed on duty.  If you are going to put them in harms way, take care of them.

[The Troll]

  If you believe the news media, all of the cops can walk water and gods on earth.  Plus is takes all of the police cars in Indiana to bury them.  I would like to see that money go to the widows and orphans.  The amount of benefits to them are pathetic and hardly feed a large dog.  So much for state benefits for cops killed on duty.  If you are going to put them in harms way, take care of them.

  If  you are watching the riots in Egypt, the people hate the  83 year old dictator and the police.  Why do you think he been able to stay in office for over 30 years.

  They love the Army.  The police have been the bullies and the abusers and most corrupt because they have been given these powers by corrupt government officials so they can stay in office.  If we aren't careful the our police is going to be the same way, many cops already are

  I just love it when someone says, "I never had and run in or problems with the police.  Well, just wait it's coming also I can't believe they don't know someone who has been abused.  equals

[dan foster]

WOOOOOOOOOOSH!

Just another strawman, like the war on xmas, etc.  Doesn't exist.  I would be willing to bet PO deaths have dropped, along with the murder rates of most US cities.  Someone have any data on it, or do we really just get our "ideas" from assholes like beck, limpball, etc?