Bend over

[Palehorse]

. . . Only it isn't the doctor getting ready to manipulate your prostate. . .

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- One of California's largest health insurers - Blue Shield - announced plans to hike its premiums by as much as 59%.

The jacked up premium rates are set to take effect on March 1, pending review from state insurance regulators. The move impacts 193,000 individual Blue Shield policy holders. . . .
http://money.cnn.com/2011/01/07/news/companies/California_blue_shield_rate_hike/index.htm?hpt=T2http://money.cnn.com/2011/01/07/news/companies/California_blue_shield_rate_hike/index.htm?hpt=T2

I told you, but noooooo. . .

[The Troll]

. . . Only it isn't the doctor getting ready to manipulate your prostate. . .

NEW YORK (CNNMoney) -- One of California's largest health insurers - Blue Shield - announced plans to hike its premiums by as much as 59%.

The jacked up premium rates are set to take effect on March 1, pending review from state insurance regulators. The move impacts 193,000 individual Blue Shield policy holders. . . .
http://money.cnn.com/2011/01/07/news/companies/California_blue_shield_rate_hike/index.htm?hpt=T2http://money.cnn.com/2011/01/07/news/companies/California_blue_shield_rate_hike/index.htm?hpt=T2

I told you, but noooooo. . .

  I bet that "ME" and Henry thinks it a good.  I can remember in one of "ME" posts where she said she didn't care what corporations charged for their products.

[Henry Hawk]

I still say we merely have to fix the problem of those who don't have insurance.  THEY are creating the problem.  NOT, those who have insurance.  Hospitals HAVE to treat everyone who walks through those doors, and that cost is passed on to those of us who DO pay.
Instead of redoing the entire HC industry....lets fix the problem for the 32 million, instead of the 300 million.  Let's close boarders.  Let's take a look at tort reform.

[The Troll]

I still say we merely have to fix the problem of those who don't have insurance.  THEY are creating the problem.  NOT, those who have insurance.  Hospitals HAVE to treat everyone who walks through those doors, and that cost is passed on to those of us who DO pay.
Instead of redoing the entire HC industry....lets fix the problem for the 32 million, instead of the 300 million.  Let's close boarders.  Let's take a look at tort reform.

We all know that we can go to the emergency room ONCE for One Problem.  What about the People who Sherron Angle is killing out in Arizona.  One guy had a liver and they gave it away to someone else, because Sharron Angle cancelled health care.  What word could you use for her.  Mine is BITCH!  Hell, let's kill all of the sick poor people.  Hawk would pray for them.

[Palehorse]

I still say we merely have to fix the problem of those who don't have insurance.  THEY are creating the problem.  NOT, those who have insurance.  Hospitals HAVE to treat everyone who walks through those doors, and that cost is passed on to those of us who DO pay.
Instead of redoing the entire HC industry....lets fix the problem for the 32 million, instead of the 300 million.  Let's close boarders.  Let's take a look at tort reform.

So, just how would YOU fix that Hank? In fact, how do you think our "savior" republican congress will fix it? (They won't)

The POTUS had a plan and congress gutted it to make sure it didn't negatively impact the insurance companies, so they again start jacking up the rates just like I said they would.

I don't disagree surrounding your reasoning in the above, it is an integral part of my argument for the government option int he POTUS's plan. . .

[The Troll]

So, just how would YOU fix that Hank? In fact, how do you think our "savior" republican congress will fix it? (They won't)

The POTUS had a plan and congress gutted it to make sure it didn't negatively impact the insurance companies, so they again start jacking up the rates just like I said they would.

I don't disagree surrounding your reasoning in the above, it is an integral part of my argument for the government option int he POTUS's plan. . .

  Hell, Hank doesn't know, the Teabaggers don't know and the Republicans don't know.  All they know is that they don't want any poor people to have health insurance.  And that's a fact.

[Palehorse]

  Hell, Hank doesn't know, the Teabaggers don't know and the Republicans don't know.  All they know is that they don't want any poor people to have health insurance.  And that's a fact.

I agree. . .

[Anne]

Who has ever said they don't want poor people to have health insurance? No one on this forum that I have read. Maybe you, Troll and PH should give them yours, or just give them half of yours. I don't notice anyone giving theirs up or even offering to. What is your solution? I haven't read where any of you have a solution. You just keep saying President Obama did and his DEMOCRATIC congress messed it up. Guess they didn't like it either.

[Palehorse]

Who has ever said they don't want poor people to have health insurance? No one on this forum that I have read. Maybe you, Troll and PH should give them yours, or just give them half of yours. I don't notice anyone giving theirs up or even offering to. What is your solution? I haven't read where any of you have a solution. You just keep saying President Obama did and his DEMOCRATIC congress messed it up. Guess they didn't like it either.

I'd give it to them if I had it. And I don't. I am one of them! 

The opposition on this forum, just as in congress, does not care about those of us who are left uninsured through no fault of our own or circumstances in life. They don't care because they think it doesn't impact them. And they are wrong.

[The Troll]

Who has ever said they don't want poor people to have health insurance? No one on this forum that I have read. Maybe you, Troll and PH should give them yours, or just give them half of yours. I don't notice anyone giving theirs up or even offering to. What is your solution? I haven't read where any of you have a solution. You just keep saying President Obama did and his DEMOCRATIC congress messed it up. Guess they didn't like it either.

  There we go.  Baby Cakes, I have UAW insurance and Medicare just like you.  Let's face the facts, you don't know a damn thing you're talking about.  Just poison KoolAid

[Anne]

Still no solutions.

[The Troll]

Still no solutions.

  Sure do.  It would be the best of all of Canada, England, Germany, Belgium, Japan and all of the other countries in the free world.  Is easy take the best of all of the health plans.  They have been doing it for years.  We could do it without experimenting.

[Palehorse]

Still no solutions.

THE solution was in the original bill put forth by the current POTUS. But as has been the case since it was first presented, the opposition doesn't want to see it or admit it because of who presented it. They couldn't care less about the fact it would have fixed this whole mess. . . And they never will. . .

[Anne]

They will never have a solution by half fixing anything. I think if they would have actually said in plain english what President Obama's bill said they would have had a much better chance of passing it. Instead they (the people who were charged with passing the bill) had their town halls and said they didn't read it and we would know what was in the bill after it was passed. Made people mad.

If you want a single payor type of medical care then someone who is brave enough and has enough power stand up and say on January 10, 2011 all medical care will be controlled by the US government and then set up some kind of system to take care of all the people who are out of jobs. There is obviously no one around yet who is willing to do that.

Single payor healthcare systems are not the be all and end all of medical care. There are a lot of long waits for treatment and some things we take for granted are not always available. My husband's cousin lives in Buffalo, NY, and there are always Canadians who come there for cataract surgery because (they telll her) the wait is so long in Canada because it is not life threatening.

[Anne]

  There we go.  Baby Cakes, I have UAW insurance and Medicare just like you.  Let's face the facts, you don't know a damn thing you're talking about.  Just poison KoolAid

Don't call me Babycakes. No Medicare, yet. Still don't see you giving that up or even helping someone get on our policy with you. All talk.