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#45
April 12, 2011, 03:02:57 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 01, 2011, 04:07:51 PM
well said.... :yes:

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  Always enjoyed watching the adventures of old Foggy and Henry.   :biggrin:

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#46
April 14, 2011, 10:49:19 PM
 
  Henery name has been here too long on this thread.   :biggrin: I want to change it to mine.  The Troll :no1:  :salute:  :flag:  :seeya2:  :dark:

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#47
April 20, 2011, 10:46:36 PM
Quote from: The Troll on April 14, 2011, 10:49:19 PM
 
  Henery name has been here too long on this thread.   :biggrin: I want to change it to mine.  The Troll :no1:  :salute:  :flag:  :seeya2:  :dark:


  It time to find a new subject.  Let's go.  :salute: :tiphat:

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#48
May 12, 2011, 03:50:32 PM
Quote from: The Troll on March 30, 2011, 10:52:49 AM
  What has happened to all of those sexual harassment charges against the Anderson Mayor.  Did she just slink off like a snake.  :biggrin:

The EEOC dumped the complaint:

http://www.indiana.statenews.net/story.php?rid=45213653

EEOC dismisses sexual harassment claim against Anderson mayor

Indiana State News.Net
Friday 6th May, 2011 (Source: WXIN)

Anderson, Ind.— The mayor of Anderson announced Friday that he has been cleared of any wrong doing.

Back in January, news came out that Kris Ockomon was being sued for sexual harassment.

Ockomon announced that the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission has dismissed a complaint filed against him back in 2009.

The mayor also denied the charges. ...

Ms. Spencer still claims she's pursuing a civil case in the last news clip I saw about it.
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Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Y

#49
May 12, 2011, 03:54:33 PM
Quote from: Anne on March 30, 2011, 02:10:03 PM
Don;t know, maybe our democratic leaning paper down't have time to investigate it.

Quote from: Anne on March 30, 2011, 05:10:47 PM
Not playing stupid, I have been reading the Anderson only newspaper and keeping an unofficial record, they endorse more democrats than republicans and publish more opinion pieces against republicans than democrats.

As far as the allegations against Mayor Ockomon, I don't know where they stand. The wheels of justice work slowly, as you would know if you have delt with it. I have a couple friends who used to work for the city, they are retired now. They told me the policy concerning sexual harassment is that it has to be witnessed three separate times to be acted on. That is a very high standard.

Quote from: Anne on March 30, 2011, 08:30:26 PM
I always thought it was more democrat leaning but most people on here said different so last fall before the elction I started keeping track to see. I counted more democratic endorsements than republicans and more pro democratic editorials by a slight margin. I think we tend to see and remember only the things we disagree with.

I'd REALLY like to see that research and the sources you used for your tally.  ; )
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Y

#50
May 12, 2011, 03:57:37 PM
Quote from: Anne on March 30, 2011, 05:10:47 PM
...As far as the allegations against Mayor Ockomon, I don't know where they stand. The wheels of justice work slowly, as you would know if you have delt with it. I have a couple friends who used to work for the city, they are retired now. They told me the policy concerning sexual harassment is that it has to be witnessed three separate times to be acted on. That is a very high standard.

:rolleyes:

A "very high standard"?!?!?!?  Jeezus Peezus!  Wouldn't it even have to happen multiple times in order to even qualify as 'harassment'?  ; )
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Anne

#51
May 12, 2011, 04:02:06 PM
Just reading the editorials every day during the last election cycle and no I am not going up to the library and go through last fall's papers. If you are that curious go do it yourself.  I don't have that much time to waste. Maybe we can see what they do in the election this fall. I think it comes out fairly even as far as the paper itself, the letters to the editor seem to go all Democratic for awhile then swing back to all Republican for awhile. I guess that is just who was a bee in their bonnet at the time. :)
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

Anne

#52
May 12, 2011, 04:02:58 PM
Quote from: Y on May 12, 2011, 03:57:37 PM
:rolleyes:

A "very high standard"?!?!?!?  Jeezus Peezus!  Wouldn't it even have to happen multiple times in order to even qualify as 'harassment'?  ; )

Yes, when it has to be witnessed and documented by three separate people on three separate occasions.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

Y

#53
May 12, 2011, 04:10:16 PM
Quote from: Anne on May 12, 2011, 04:02:06 PM
Just reading the editorials every day during the last election cycle and no I am not going up to the library and go through last fall's papers. If you are that curious go do it yourself.  I don't have that much time to waste. Maybe we can see what they do in the election this fall. I think it comes out fairly even as far as the paper itself, the letters to the editor seem to go all Democratic for awhile then swing back to all Republican for awhile. I guess that is just who was a bee in their bonnet at the time. :)

That's what I thought - another 'hot air' claim.  ; )
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Y

#54
May 12, 2011, 04:13:16 PM
Quote from: Y on May 12, 2011, 03:57:37 PM
:rolleyes:

A "very high standard"?!?!?!?  Jeezus Peezus!  Wouldn't it even have to happen multiple times in order to even qualify as 'harassment'?  ; )

Quote from: Anne on May 12, 2011, 04:02:58 PM
Yes, when it has to be witnessed and documented by three separate people on three separate occasions.

Oh really?!?!?

How else would you suggest protecting the innocent person from collusion in false allegations?  Surely you must have some clever legal mechanism with which to do that, right?  ; )
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Anne

#55
May 12, 2011, 05:09:33 PM
No amount of proof would satisfy you. Yes I think that is a high standard, one because it is often done away from other people, two it is sometimes done by a person with power over your job and anyone who would be reporting it and three it is a subject many people would rather ignore. The system to protect innocent people is the review system in place.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

Y

#56
May 12, 2011, 05:28:31 PM
Quote from: Anne on May 12, 2011, 05:09:33 PM
No amount of proof would satisfy you.

Oh!   :biggrin:

Sorry, another of your 'hot air' hypotheticals.  ; )

QuoteYes I think that is a high standard, one because it is often done away from other people,

Hmmm.  If "it is often done away from other people', then not only is there no proof on which to bring a charge of sexual harassment etc., it is a classic 'he said, she said' matter. 

That's not to mention that being done away from people means you - and I mean you - wouldn't have anything factual on which to hang your opinion concerning your description of "often", which makes it another of your 'hot air' hypotheticals.  ; )

Quotetwo it is sometimes done by a person with power over your job and anyone who would be reporting it

And that somehow eliminates the possibility of collusion by more than one person who doesn't like their boss?  Pfui!

Quoteand three it is a subject many people would rather ignore. The system to protect innocent people is the review system in place.

Really?!?!?  Please elaborate on how that system protects innocent people and the means with which it does that. 
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Anne

#57
May 12, 2011, 05:37:24 PM
Seems to have protected Mayor Ockomon.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

Anne

#58
May 12, 2011, 05:38:09 PM
What kind of proof would satisfy you?
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

Y

#59
May 12, 2011, 06:14:31 PM
Quote from: Anne on May 12, 2011, 05:37:24 PM
Seems to have protected Mayor Ockomon.

The standards you claim are in place, and that you decry, are apparently what protected Mr. Ockomon.  ; )

Quote from: Anne on May 12, 2011, 05:38:09 PM
What kind of proof would satisfy you?

The standards you claim to be in place - and decry - seem to be fine with me.
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa
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