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Started by Palehorse, January 02, 2011, 04:23:11 PM

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Anne

Do you work at one or know anyone who does? I am not disputing what you wrote/think. My son works at a plant in FL.
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Palehorse

Quote from: Anne on January 31, 2012, 08:31:56 AM
Do you work at one or know anyone who does? I am not disputing what you wrote/think. My son works at a plant in FL.

I do not currently work in them, however I have been to many of the sites in Illinois. Just look at the age of the majority of the units in operation in Illinois.

My point is that there is a very high likliehood that they will do the same thing that happened in Japan, when the New Madrid fault next burps. While the Byron plant is logistically closer to a natural body of fresh water than the rest, should the man-made and perched cooling lakes that supply water to most of the others have a dyke failure, then water to cool / control the nuclear fusion process will not be available.

And Indiana is directly downwind from those sites.
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Henry Hawk

let's cut to the chase, what are you implying?  That we do away with power plants or are you wanting more secure measures put into place.
Not being a Smart ass.....just asking.  :)
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Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 31, 2012, 11:28:31 AM
let's cut to the chase, what are you implying?  That we do away with power plants or are you wanting more secure measures put into place.
Not being a Smart ass.....just asking.  :)

I've stated, rather than implied, that nuclear facilities are not safe; and clearly not as safe as the NRC and other entities would have each one of us believe.

DO they operate within guidelines, and in many cases exceeding requirements. Yes.

But look at the average age of these facilities, especially the ones in Illinois; because those are the most likely to impact the residents of Indiana should a release occur.

Nuke facilities world wide are not environmentally friendly. They produce tons of waste each year, and every single ounce of that waste makes anything it comes into contact with lethal to human life and all life, for centuries. (Look at Chernobyl).

The negatives of nuclear energy far outweigh the positives, and wind/solar alternatives are a win-win, easily implemented, and represent no centuries long environmental impact surrounding the sustainment of life.

The facilities in Illinois, as it relates to the topic within this posting resides, leaves them at risk for a similar incident to that which transpired in Japan last year. Only, instead of being flooded with salt water, the majority of these facility risk catastrophic failure of the man made / and perched cooling lakes that provide the necessary water. One portion of those dykes fails, and all of the water runs out and into the ground. And most of them have nothing but public water service as a potential source for supplying water should such an event happen.

THOSE are my points, my concerns, and they will one day be yours should the New Madrid fault incur a seismic event equal to or exceeding the last time it did so.

It is very easy to drink the kool aid they are serving up surrounding the safety of our Nuclear facilities. But events such as the one that happened this week, (yesterday), at Byron in Illinois, demonstrate that what happened in Japan can easily happen here!
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Palehorse

4.0 very early this morning in Missouri, felt in Illinois, Kentucky, Indiana. Leaving some cracked windows, sidewalks, and roads; along with some items shaken off shelves, etc.

Is this the New Madrid yawning and preparing for an early summer burp?  :spooked:

4.0

Date-Time
Tuesday, February 21, 2012 at 09:58:43 UTC
Tuesday, February 21, 2012 at 03:58:43 AM at epicenter
Time of Earthquake in other Time Zones
Location
36.850°N, 89.409°W
Depth
5 km (3.1 miles)
Region
SOUTHEASTERN MISSOURI
Distances
16 km (9 miles) ESE of Sikeston, Missouri
27 km (16 miles) SW of Cairo, Illinois
197 km (122 miles) NNE of Memphis, Tennessee
310 km (192 miles) SE of JEFFERSON CITY, Missouri
Location Uncertainty
horizontal +/- 8.7 km (5.4 miles); depth +/- 3 km (1.9 miles)
Parameters
NST=155, Nph=173, Dmin=54.5 km, Rmss=1.29 sec, Gp= 18°,
M-type=body wave magnitude (Mb), Version=7
Source
Magnitude: USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)
Location: USGS NEIC (WDCS-D)
Event ID
usb000834r
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Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Locutus

Major 7.6 earthquake on Mexico's Pacific coast. 

2:36 PM EDT, March 20, 2012

MEXICO CITY (Reuters) - A major 7.6 magnitude earthquake struck 120 miles east of Acapulco on Mexico's Pacific coast, the U.S. Geological Survey said on Tuesday.

The USGS located the epicenter of the quake at 15 miles east of Ometepec in Guerrero state at a depth of 10.9 miles.

The Pacific Tsunami Warning Center said the inland earthquake would not generate a destructive widespread tsunami, but there was the possibility of some local tsunami effects.

The quake was felt in Mexico City where buildings shook and office employees fled into the street, according to a Reuters witnesses. Cell phone lines were down and traffic snarled in the capital moments after the quake.

No damage was reported in Oaxaca, near where the quake hit, according to local television.

Earlier it had been reported at 7.9 magnitude and initially as 7.6 magnitude.

http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/nationworld/sns-rt-us-032012-acapulco-quake-story,0,893628.story
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Locutus

I highlighted that one sentence about Oaxaca because Malia Obama is there for spring break this week.   :spooked:

President Barack Obama's 13-year-old daughter, Malia Ann Obama, will be spending her spring break in the Mexican city of Oaxaca with 12 friends and 25 Secret Service agents.

http://img.ibtimes.com/www/articles/20120319/316249_malia-obama-mexico-spring-break-travel-warning.htm
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

The Troll

Quote from: Locutus on March 20, 2012, 03:31:36 PM
I highlighted that one sentence about Oaxaca because Malia Obama is there for spring break this week.   :spooked:

President Barack Obama's 13-year-old daughter, Malia Ann Obama, will be spending her spring break in the Mexican city of Oaxaca with 12 friends and 25 Secret Service agents.

http://img.ibtimes.com/www/articles/20120319/316249_malia-obama-mexico-spring-break-travel-warning.htm

  Please give a reason why you brought this up, is it to beat "ME".  Just thinking, as Henry would say.   :wink:

Locutus

Quote from: The Troll on March 20, 2012, 07:49:07 PM
  Please give a reason why you brought this up, is it to beat "ME".  Just thinking, as Henry would say.   :wink:

I'm surprised they didn't seize on the obvious opening for a routing talking point after I posted that.  ;D
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Palehorse

Was not even aware this happened today (err yesterday at this time of the morning), until I read your post on it Locutus!

Been busy working and swatting flies!  :icon_twisted:
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That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Locutus on March 20, 2012, 11:54:33 PM
I'm surprised they didn't seize on the obvious opening for a routing talking point after I posted that.  ;D

Didn't have it in me to waste my time arguing yesterday..... :razz:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 21, 2012, 08:39:28 AM
Didn't have it in me to waste my time arguing yesterday..... :razz:

Except in my case it would seem. . .  :rolleyes:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

8.6 followed by an 8.2 struck off the coast of Sumatra Indonesia today. . . Triggered a Tsunami watch which has since been cancelled.
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

The Troll

Quote from: Palehorse on April 11, 2012, 11:40:43 AM
8.6 followed by an 8.2 struck off the coast of Sumatra Indonesia today. . . Triggered a Tsunami watch which has since been cancelled.

  Those earthquakes in Muslim Indonesia that drove thousands and thousands to the hills and high ground.  After finding that there would be no tidal waves they returned to they homes screaming, "God is Great"  God?  Why are they yelling god is great when he caused the earth quakes in the first place. :doh:   ::)