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Started by Henry Hawk, September 09, 2010, 10:04:58 AM

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Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 09, 2010, 03:44:53 PM
Ann is dead on correct....MediaMatters is a spin machine....their one and ONLY goal is to bastardize and demonize anything conservative.....and are misleading its sheep.

BULLSHIT! They are a not for profit corporation that fact checks the lies conservative morons keep telling each and every day. Lies like the health-care reform bill bankrupting America, as Bonehead is so fond of spewing.

Its a lie and a simple check of the CBO's findings prove it!
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Henry Hawk

Quote from: Palehorse on September 09, 2010, 03:54:56 PM
BULLSHIT! They are a not for profit corporation that fact checks the lies conservative morons keep telling each and every day. Lies like the health-care reform bill bankrupting America, as Bonehead is so fond of spewing.

Its a lie and a simple check of the CBO's findings prove it!

they are a radical liberal megaphone.....and the CBO is ran under the direction of the Speaker of the House...so, sorry if I don't get the warm and fuzzy feeling when they make their reports...the CBO also said the Stimulus Bill WOULD CREATE OR SAVE 1.6 MILLION JOBS!!!

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/dec/14/barack-obama/obama-says-congressional-budget-office-found-econo/

http://dailycaller.com/2010/01/10/congressional-budget-office-consistently-wrong-on-health-care-estimates/

I will keep on saying it.....the truth will set us free......because sooner or later, the truth is going to shine the light on all of this mess.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
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Bo D

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 09, 2010, 04:25:51 PM
they are a radical liberal megaphone.....and the CBO is ran under the direction of the Speaker of the House...so, sorry if I don't get the warm and fuzzy feeling when they make their reports...the CBO also said the Stimulus Bill WOULD CREATE OR SAVE 1.6 MILLION JOBS!!!

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2009/dec/14/barack-obama/obama-says-congressional-budget-office-found-econo/

http://dailycaller.com/2010/01/10/congressional-budget-office-consistently-wrong-on-health-care-estimates/

I will keep on saying it.....the truth will set us free......because sooner or later, the truth is going to shine the light on all of this mess.

The CBO is independent of the Speaker of the House. Failed that Civics class, eh?


A quote from YOUR article ...

"CBO estimates that in the third quarter of calendar year 2009, an additional 600,000 to 1.6 million people were employed in the United States ... than would have been the case in the absence of (the economic stimulus)," the report states.
Obama is technically accurate when he says the CBO found the economic stimulus has saved or created up to 1.6 million jobs.


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Palehorse

I give up. You know what, anything that comes from any source that doesn't support their skewed thought process, is suspect in their view and not good for anything more than asswipe.

So be it. And when the truth is revealed let it be known that many here attempted to enlighten you and you abjectly refused to accept it.
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Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

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LOsborne

Quote from: Anne on September 09, 2010, 02:17:36 PM
The post from mediamatters website was cherry picked from hundreds of hours of broadcasting.

Cherry picked they may be, but broadcast they certainly were. On-the-record is on-the-record, whether or not you like the fact that the words and images are archived. There is a substantial difference between references with the sources identified -- or even attached! -- and talking-points blogs with either no verifiable sources, or fake ones. Like Norman Thomas.

It really doesn't matter if these stories are only a few of those broadcast daily by the Rupert Murdoch empire. They were broadcast. The original tapes can be accessed. Don't tell me what the "intent" was. I'm a big girl and I can figure that out all by myself.

Palehorse

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.
- Albert Einstein
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

LOsborne

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 09, 2010, 04:25:51 PM

I will keep on saying it.....the truth will set us free......because sooner or later, the truth is going to shine the light on all of this mess.

Well Hank, old chum, the truth is those stories actually were broadcast, and MediaMatters only rebroadcast them. Now do you feel free?

Anne

Quote from: LOsborne on September 09, 2010, 07:34:08 PM
Cherry picked they may be, but broadcast they certainly were. On-the-record is on-the-record, whether or not you like the fact that the words and images are archived. There is a substantial difference between references with the sources identified -- or even attached! -- and talking-points blogs with either no verifiable sources, or fake ones. Like Norman Thomas.

It really doesn't matter if these stories are only a few of those broadcast daily by the Rupert Murdoch empire. They were broadcast. The original tapes can be accessed. Don't tell me what the "intent" was. I'm a big girl and I can figure that out all by myself.

Not from that article, if you see the two clips through it is completely different than what the article wants the reader to believe.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

LOsborne

Quote from: Anne on September 09, 2010, 09:27:26 PM
Not from that article, if you see the two clips through it is completely different than what the article wants the reader to believe.

Two clips? The article I read quotes directly from many, many broadcasts -- and provides the links so the viewer can watch all of them, and verify the quotes are accurate. I viewed several of the links. I found no inaccuracies. I found no editing. The quotes as printed are exactly the same as the broadcasts.

Anne

Quote from: Palehorse on September 09, 2010, 02:20:45 PM
Yeah. . . rigggght!  :rolleyes:  You are one of them aren't you!

One of what group, republicans, atheists, democrats, conservative, christian, female, senior citizen, white, black, biracial, gay, lesbian, or american?
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

Anne

Quote from: LOsborne on September 09, 2010, 09:57:47 PM
Two clips? The article I read quotes directly from many, many broadcasts -- and provides the links so the viewer can watch all of them, and verify the quotes are accurate. I viewed several of the links. I found no inaccuracies. I found no editing. The quotes as printed are exactly the same as the broadcasts.

I was referring to the two particular boradcasts I talked about and you know it. The quotes were accurate, but taken out of context and were presented in a way to alter what was really said. The article is slanted. Even in the Roe v. Wade discussion it tried to intimate that Fox and its employees are the only ones against abortion.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

Palehorse

Quote from: Anne on September 09, 2010, 10:18:16 PM
I was referring to the two particular boradcasts I talked about and you know it. The quotes were accurate, but taken out of context and were presented in a way to alter what was really said. The article is slanted. Even in the Roe v. Wade discussion it tried to intimate that Fox and its employees are the only ones against abortion.

Oh bullshit. The article was about Faux and it documents that their representatives and employees espouse these extremist ideals. You want to see butchery then watch that shit. I don't.
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That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Sandy Eggo

Quote from: LOsborne on September 09, 2010, 07:37:21 PM
Well Hank, old chum, the truth is those stories actually were broadcast, and MediaMatters only rebroadcast them. Now do you feel free?

Prolly not, it has to be HIS truth if it isn't then it's not really the truth and more than likely a liberal/socialist conspiracy thingy.
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Palehorse

Quote from: Anne on September 09, 2010, 10:11:26 PM
One of what group, republicans, atheists, democrats, conservative, christian, female, senior citizen, white, black, biracial, gay, lesbian, or american?

Go play that dumbass role somewhere where it goes over will yah? I know what/who you are and it won't play any better than your victim role gambit does. . .
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Palehorse

R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville