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Is letting a 13 year old race motorcycles child neglet/endangerment?

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Exterminator

August 30, 2010, 02:54:25 PM
I'm sure everyone has seen the stories about the kid that died at the Speedway yesterday.  Are his parents responsible?  Why or why not?
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Palehorse

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August 30, 2010, 02:57:26 PM
 :smile: 

I was thinking along these very lines when I first heard about this incident. I have not reached a conclusion on it either. . .
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Locutus

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August 30, 2010, 03:01:37 PM
Anyone have a link to the story?
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me

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August 30, 2010, 03:11:25 PM
When I was going to Motocross races a lot you wouldn't believe the number of 5yr olds racing.  Of course they were racing each other in a class of 5 to 8yr old's but I still think it's not right.  Was the kid racing others of his age or with adults?
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Exterminator

#4
August 30, 2010, 03:13:22 PM
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

#5
August 30, 2010, 03:24:43 PM
Whether it's child endangerment or neglect or not is a tricky thing.  Yes, it is a dangerous sport, but so is football or any other sport including skate boarding.  He could have been just riding a bicycle on the street and fallen off and been killed.  I don't feel the parents should be charged if that's what you're getting at here.
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Exterminator

#6
August 30, 2010, 03:33:13 PM
Before we get all side tracked on 'other things are just as dangerous', let's all think that through.  Yes, a kid can be killed doing just about anything but in order to accurately assess the risk, you need to look at the numbers of serious injuries and/or deaths for a given activity as compared to the number of people taking part in that activity and the number of hours they spend each week/month/year doing it.  There are already people commenting that it's more dangerous to drive around with your kids in the car because more kids are hurt or killed in car accidents than in motorcycle racing accidents...not really a fair comparison.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

#7
August 30, 2010, 03:38:07 PM
I think in this particular case it is strictly a parents decision...they have invested in hours of training, and equipment....it is not like any kid can do what he did to get in a race a this stature....
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Exterminator

#8
August 30, 2010, 03:49:38 PM
Using that logic, it should be a parent's decision whether or not to put his/her child in a seatbelt as well.  What if he was really well endowed and got AIDS doing porn...its not like any kid could do what he could to get into a movie of that stature?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

#9
August 30, 2010, 03:50:30 PM
 :rolleyes:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#10
August 30, 2010, 03:53:53 PM
 :rolleyes: indeed.  Aren't you going to use the 'he died doing what he loved' line?

FYI, my kids weren't allowed to start skydiving at 13...for a very good reason.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

#11
August 30, 2010, 03:56:51 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on August 30, 2010, 03:53:53 PM
:rolleyes: indeed.  Aren't you going to use the 'he died doing what he loved' line?

FYI, my kids weren't allowed to start skydiving at 13...for a very good reason.
and that was YOUR decision....
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#12
August 30, 2010, 04:01:11 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 30, 2010, 03:56:51 PM
and that was YOUR decision....

Because I am a responsible parent!  Them...dead kid; me...two living kids...see the connection?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Locutus

#13
August 30, 2010, 04:12:34 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on August 30, 2010, 04:01:11 PM
Because I am a responsible parent!  Them...dead kid; me...two living kids...see the connection?

I hope nobody takes this the wrong way, but if you can find any interviews with the parents, or pictures of them, I'll bet money they're a bit red in the neck.  :wink:
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"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Henry Hawk

#14
August 30, 2010, 04:14:12 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on August 30, 2010, 04:01:11 PM
Because I am a responsible parent!  Them...dead kid; me...two living kids...see the connection?

In this case, there are no laws citing an age, it IS the parents decision....

Now, to clear the air, for me, I would never allow my 13-year old to be involved in such a sport, at that level of competition.  I think depending on the sport, and the child's maturity, ability, and the level of danger would play factors ON MY decision.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW
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