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Fred Thompson "Catastrophic" if Bush Tax cuts aren't reviewed

Started by Sandy Eggo, August 13, 2010, 11:17:26 AM

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The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 16, 2010, 07:36:07 AM
and what in the hell is WRONG if he did?.........HE is the one who built a company from scratch...it is HIS money that is being reinvested, so that WE can have jobs....WTF is the manner with YOU guys?

and for the record, he does NOT live in a million dollar home.....he has a very nice home, with some very nice vehicles, and I am very sure he has money that if he wanted to, he could sell the business and live very comfortable for the rest of his life...NOT everyone who has money are pricks....

Troll, if it was up to YOU, you would demand that this guy give UP a few of his cars, and MORE of HIS money so that YOU can buy one or two of those cars and live in a nicer home....

I do consider myself very fortunate to have such a boss......and I WANT him to continue to be successful, because when HE is successful, I am successful...

  Come on Hawk, let's be truthful.  No beating around the bush, no spin, no bull shit.  Don't you really think that you need a little raise in the pay check.  For all of the good work and loyalty you have given him over the year.  Just a little money.  Not enough for him to lose one of those fine cars.  Or not take as many super fine vacations he and his family take.  Well, maybe stop him from buying those $30 bottles of wine and go to something that has a screw on cap.

  Oh no, I forgot that Obama is coming for his company and Obama is going to break him and make him loose everything he has work so hard for.  Hawk, maybe you should ask him for a wage cut. 

  My God Hawk, that's it, you got to ask for a wage cut  If the Republicans let the tax cuts for small business go through and your wage cut, hell he might be able to buy an other car or a cabin on the lake.  :biggrin:

Henry Hawk

Quote from: The Troll on August 16, 2010, 02:27:58 PM
  Come on Hawk, let's be truthful.  No beating around the bush, no spin, no bull shit.  Don't you really think that you need a little raise in the pay check.  For all of the good work and loyalty you have given him over the year.  Just a little money.  Not enough for him to lose one of those fine cars.  Or not take as many super fine vacations he and his family take.  Well, maybe stop him from buying those $30 bottles of wine and go to something that has a screw on cap.
 

I have not had a raise in two years, and I have NO problem with that what-so-ever.....I have my job, and he has NOT layed off anyone in our office....when things was going good a few years ago, he was very generous with raises and bonus'....and when things get tight, we shoud expect less......and I WOULD take a pay cut IF it meant me keeping my job....but, I don't think it will come to that.

IF, more owners and employees had this type of relationship....we would NOT be in the situtation that we have today.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


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"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 16, 2010, 02:51:13 PM

IF, more owners and employees had this type of relationship....we would NOT be in the situation that we have today.

  What do you know, after all of the disagreements we have had.  We found one thing we can agree on.

  If the the employers had treated their employees fairly and honestly, there would never had been a union.  Or the predatory environment we have to day.

  WOW, let me write this down, put in my book.  The Hawk and the Troll agree on one thing.

Palehorse

Quote from: The Troll on August 16, 2010, 03:08:46 PM
  What do you know, after all of the disagreements we have had.  We found one thing we can agree on.

  If the the employers had treated their employees fairly and honestly, there would never had been a union.  Or the predatory environment we have to day.

  . . .

I agree as well. However to that I would add that states with an "at will" status do nothing to nurture this type of relationship. This status weighs heavily in favor of the employer and as a result the employers abuse it and erode any level of trust and caring the employees may harbor.
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Henry Hawk

Quote from: The Troll on August 16, 2010, 03:08:46 PM
  What do you know, after all of the disagreements we have had.  We found one thing we can agree on.

  If the the employers had treated their employees fairly and honestly, there would never had been a union.  Or the predatory environment we have to day.

  WOW, let me write this down, put in my book.  The Hawk and the Troll agree on one thing.

and I have said so since we started conversing.....and can you also agree that the Union just MIGHT have went too far with some of their demands?
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

me

Quote from: Exterminator on August 16, 2010, 12:36:05 PM
I used to be a surgeon but it's none of your business what kind of surgeon I was.  I was successful but couldn't get decent OR nurses.  The internet is fun; we can all be whomever we want!
You're very funny Ex.  Tell us, what do you do for a living and how much do you make?  Want to lay it all out here on a public forum?  How about giving us your address while you're at it.
Trump 2020

Palehorse

Quote from: me on August 16, 2010, 03:37:50 PM
You're very funny Ex.  Tell us, what do you do for a living and how much do you make?  Want to lay it all out here on a public forum?  How about giving us your address while you're at it.

You go first!
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Sandy Eggo

You're asking for current information which is different than a business which no longer exists.
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me

Quote from: Sandy Eggo on August 16, 2010, 04:14:49 PM
You're asking for current information which is different than a business which no longer exists.
Sorry but it's still personal info I chose not to reveal.
Trump 2020

Palehorse

Quote from: me on August 16, 2010, 05:45:55 PM
Sorry but it's still personal info I chose not to reveal.

Why not? You expect it from the POTUS!
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

The Troll

Quote from: Palehorse on August 16, 2010, 03:12:07 PM
I agree as well. However to that I would add that states with an "at will" status do nothing to nurture this type of relationship. This status weighs heavily in favor of the employer and as a result the employers abuse it and erode any level of trust and caring the employees may harbor.

  I sure agree with you on the "at will" status, it is sure abused so many many time.  It's just the like the "Right to Work Laws"  really means the right to work for less.  And the Indiana Republican Party sure crammed that down the Indiana workers throat.

  No there will never be peace between the workers and the rich owners.  Greed will always prevail.

Anne

"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

The Troll

Quote from: Anne on August 16, 2010, 08:22:46 PM
As is the pharmacy at Target and Kroger.

  But not all put out free drugs.  I wonder what you have to do and prove to get a discount and maybe free drugs.  Take a mortgaged out on their souls.

Anne

Quote from: Palehorse on August 16, 2010, 06:24:50 PM
Why not? You expect it from the POTUS!

Apples and Oranges. Me is not a public figure, President Obama is.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

The Troll

Quote from: me on August 16, 2010, 05:45:55 PM
Sorry but it's still personal info I chose not to reveal.

  I'll tell you what I use to make and the hours I put in and the taxes I paid, I still got my books and some of my check stubs.  What did you do cheat on your income taxes?   :biggrin: :yes:  I bet you did, that's why everything is secret.  :rotfl:  :rotfl:   :yes: