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#210
July 22, 2011, 10:32:24 PM
Quote from: The Troll on July 22, 2011, 06:45:34 PM
   I will say something you don't have 25 parts of iron in your water.  If you did you probably could sell to a steel mill.  You probably had 2.5 Parts per million of iron.  The government requires that towns and cities remove iron from their water to below .3 parts per million of iron.  Even with this low amount of iron you will get iron in your toilet, it you haven't seen in toilets in the city restrooms.

  In some of the softeners where people was calling me to clean the screens and injectors so much.  I talked them into putting a full house cartridge filter in front of their softener that you can buy at Lowes and change the cartridges yourself, easily and using more Iron Out.  I felt that I couldn't keep taking advantage of them when there was such a cheap and easy way to cure the problem.

  One more tip of cleaning a well with chlorine.  Use swimming pool chlorine.  It's stronger and cheaper.  But if you have a pitless adapter on  your well or a way to get to the opening to the top.  First of all put you softener on by-pass and don't use any water in your house while doing this..

  Open up your well pour 3 or 4 gallons of swimming pool bleach or chlorine into it.  drag your outside hose over to the well and put in down in to the well and turn in on and run it for several hours.  Then mix a box of Calgon water softener with water and pour that down into the well and run that for awhile.  What this does is clean your well casing pipe, your pump your line to your pressure tank, your pressure tank and your line out to your hose. The Calgon will hold the iron in suspension so when you pumping out the chlorine the iron won't stick to the pipes and will come out.  You won't believe how bad this water will look when it first start coming out out of your well.

  Then take the hose out and put it some where it won't kill the grass and run until the smell of bleach is almost gone.  It might take a day or to for the bleach to disappear.  But I will tell you one thing you will have one of the cleanest wells around.  I had an old chemist at Bruner softener company, when I first started selling softeners tell me this.  I have told many people about this, they did and were all pleased.  Like I have said, I have had no unhappy customers with my softeners when they listen to me. 

  I had one customer complain to me that my damn softener was plugging up to much.  I told him.  Fred you got to remove the clumps of iron that is coming out of your well, softeners don't remove clumps without stopping up.  We had to put in a large sand filter and an iron filter because his water was so bad.  He did it and he was happy.  :biggrin:  Each well in Indiana has it's own problems and hardly any of them are iron free.  :yes:  Clean hard water is easy to soften, but water with iron, a lot of iron is another bad game.   :yes: :yes: :yes: :biggrin:
Could be the softener people lied to us about the content too but when there was no softener the water came out of the faucet red and you could practically chew it, or it seemed that way.  It was nasty and I'm sooooo glad I don't have to put up with it anymore.  We couldn't even wash down the siding with the outside hose because it stained it so I bought an adapter for the faucet and hooked the hose to it and ran it out the door to wash the siding.  I hear ya about the clumps some of them I'd get out of the workings were the size of pebbles, did not allow free flow of water through the jets at all....  :no:
Trump 2020

The Troll

#211
July 23, 2011, 08:56:51 AM
Quote from: me on July 22, 2011, 10:32:24 PM
Could be the softener people lied to us about the content too but when there was no softener the water came out of the faucet red and you could practically chew it, or it seemed that way.  It was nasty and I'm sooooo glad I don't have to put up with it anymore.  We couldn't even wash down the siding with the outside hose because it stained it so I bought an adapter for the faucet and hooked the hose to it and ran it out the door to wash the siding.  I hear ya about the clumps some of them I'd get out of the workings were the size of pebbles, did not allow free flow of water through the jets at all....  :no:

  I don't know about lying to you, but you probably knew more about water softeners that the salesman.  Some of these people don't know what's inside of the head or how to solider a copper tube.  The first thing I would have sold you was an Greensand Iron filter and chlorinate your well two or three times a year.  Some people I knew did in the spring and fall and kept the iron bacteria under control.  The Iron bacteria do like to eat iron and collect it in red snotty globs.  I think you know what I mean.   :yes: :biggrin:


  But most people that have real bad problems is from iron bacteria.  This is what cause the lumps and slime.  It is the consistency of red snot.  My company even sold automatic chlorine injector for the well to kill the iron bacteria.

  In some cases it is cheaper to dig another well than spend money for years and years of treating it. :yes:

The Troll

#212
July 23, 2011, 11:46:35 AM

  Oh, there is one more thing about iron.  There to kinds of iron water Ferric, and Ferrus.  One come out already red colored and a water can't remove that, only a green sand iron filter.  The other one the water comes out clear and turns red after being exposed to oxygen and water softener can remove that.  But the softener should be cleaned regularly with Iron Out.

  I have seen so many people who lived in the city and moved to the country and built a nice new house,  Only to see it turn red on the inside from the iron in the well.  Guess what, the women see red when their sheets turn pink.   :biggrin:

dan foster

#213
July 30, 2011, 03:51:55 PM
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

Exterminator

#214
August 02, 2011, 10:07:07 AM
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

followsthewolf

#215
August 02, 2011, 05:14:22 PM
What he said.  :yeah: :bow:
Ignorance and fanaticism are ravenous. They require constant feeding.

Palehorse

#216
August 03, 2011, 02:42:35 AM
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Exterminator

#217
August 03, 2011, 08:15:09 AM
I know; right?  I saw an article on CNN yesterday about this guy having designed and built this guitar so I looked him up.  Pretty innovative...sort of reminded me of Jim Cross for whatever reason.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Locutus

#218
August 03, 2011, 03:01:25 PM
This is a video of a tornado forming here in Broward County, FL.   The weather was horrible yesterday afternoon, and this video was shot about 7 or 8 miles north of where I live.



http://www.youtube.com/v/TGMwnCbNZ1A
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

dan foster

#219
August 06, 2011, 12:57:56 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on August 02, 2011, 10:07:07 AM
Wow!

That is way too fucking cool.  Keith Medley is great.  The video also led me to look at Pat Metheny on a 42 string.  More strings are necessarily better!  So, going back the other way, Stanley Jordan has always been my favorite until I just Keith Medley.  However, it is hard to beat Stanley Jordan in making as much music with just 6 strings....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT0Sz6iRUpo

Of course, he's pretty amazing on 12, as well....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQZY87PDsnQ

Thanks for the Keith Medley link!
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

dan foster

#220
August 06, 2011, 01:14:17 PM
Quote from: dan foster on August 06, 2011, 12:57:56 PM
That is way too fucking cool.  Keith Medley is great.  The video also led me to look at Pat Metheny on a 42 string.  More strings are necessarily better!  So, going back the other way, Stanley Jordan has always been my favorite until I just Keith Medley.  However, it is hard to beat Stanley Jordan in making as much music with just 6 strings....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GT0Sz6iRUpo

Of course, he's pretty amazing on 12, as well....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQZY87PDsnQ

Thanks for the Keith Medley link!


Of course, Jordan isn't the only game in town, either:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZpD0btOZx8&NR=1&feature=fvwp
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

Y

#221
August 10, 2011, 04:58:13 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on August 03, 2011, 08:15:09 AM
I know; right?  I saw an article on CNN yesterday about this guy having designed and built this guitar so I looked him up.  Pretty innovative...sort of reminded me of Jim Cross for whatever reason.

Cross Audio?  The concrete cabinets?
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Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Y

#222
August 10, 2011, 05:00:10 PM
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Y

#223
August 10, 2011, 05:04:39 PM
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Exterminator

#224
August 11, 2011, 09:34:28 AM
Quote from: Y on August 10, 2011, 04:58:13 PM
Cross Audio?  The concrete cabinets?

Yes.  They really weren't concrete, though; they were some sort of dense composite.  I never saw the process but Jim explained it to me and apparently he had what can only be described as a big centrifuge that he spun the molds in while he injected the liquid composite material.  The speakers sounded very good!
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.
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