E'ville cop GUILTY!

[The Troll]

Sounds like a wholesale indictment to me.

I must have been fortunate; in my experience, I haven't encountered such huge numbers of sadistic law enforcement officers as all of you seem to have known.

Unless, of course, they were directed by those who were duly elected by the people to direct that enforcement arm of the executive branch.

Matter of fact, I owe my life to the actions of several law enforcement officers, who put themselves in harm's way to help.

And, geez. They didn't even know me.

Isn't that strange.

  I sure am glad they did.  The answer to your question is very easy.  IT'S THEIR JOB.  Their trained to do just exactly what they did for you.  Train to kill, trained to manhandle you and trained to abuse you.  You are lucky that you could ever find a cop that fast. 

   We had our house broken into some things and my gun was taken, it took him some time but he found the gun, really had taken some time and energy.  Called the cops.  The county cops were to my house in 10 minutes, our town cop showed up 15 minutes after the county cops got there.  My house is 3 blocks from Main Street and 4 blocks from the police station.  Go figure, you were lucky.

[Sandy Eggo]

So, FTW are you saying the outcome may have been different had they known you?

There was something in the news back east about an off duty DoD officer pulling out his personal handgun at an off leash dog park and shooting a huskey who got into a tussle w/his german sheppard. When I'm not on the phone I'll grab a link for you guys.

I don't know, I like to think that our officers are the good guys, laws and courts are fair. There is evidence to suggest that I might be mistaken, but I haven't personally grown that cynical yet.

We were talking about this topic at work and someone suggested that it's a mostly thankless job which doesn't get the respect it once did, low pay, long hours and lots of personal risk, so maybe the quality of the applicant pool has decreased.

[The Troll]

So, FTW are you saying the outcome may have been different had they known you?

There was something in the news back east about an off duty DoD officer pulling out his personal handgun at an off leash dog park and shooting a huskey who got into a tussle w/his german sheppard. When I'm not on the phone I'll grab a link for you guys.

I don't know, I like to think that our officers are the good guys, laws and courts are fair. There is evidence to suggest that I might be mistaken, but I haven't personally grown that cynical yet.

We were talking about this topic at work and someone suggested that it's a mostly thankless job which doesn't get the respect it once did, low pay, long hours and lots of personal risk, so maybe the quality of the applicant pool has decreased.

  None of these cops were drafted.  They volunteered.  They volunteered for poor pay, they volunteered for the excitement.  They volunteered to carry the gun.  They volunteered for the power to intimidate and bully and nib in everybodies business even if it is not criminal.  They are natural nibshits.  It's in their DNA.

  It takes a special person to be the "today's cop"  Paramilitary bully thugs.  May you never run into a bad one on his bad day.  He can kill you and get away with it.

  New cop hard to get?  Nah, ask for applicants and you will get hunreds.

[Palehorse]

And yet another Indiana cop thugging it up!

http://theunknownzone.us/smf/index.php?topic=17168.msg371433#new

[LOsborne]

Here are a couple more of E'ville's finest:

http://www.courierpress.com/news/2010/aug/11/two-officers-are-given-suspensions-dog-incident/

Read the list of previous offenses, and ask yourself, "Why are these two guys still in uniform?" What more do they have to do (or fail to do) to hit the termination threshold?

[LOsborne]

At graduation time last spring, the E'ville cops responded to a couple of parties. At the first one (on private property) they tasered a kid, who fell on his face on the concrete and wound up in the hospital with fractures to both eye sockets. Oddly enough, no one was arrested for minor consuming or anything else. The investigation into that one has gone sub rosa.

The other one took place in the parking lot of a downtown fraternal society. It was rented. Someone complained about noise, so the cops showed up -- without lights or sirens -- and began firing pepper spray balls into the crowd. They arrested four kids for disorderly conduct and resisting arrest. The first trial ended this morning. Not guilty. Take a look:

http://www.courierpress.com/news/2010/aug/19/charge-dismissed-scottish-rite-trial/

But to fully appreciate this comedy, you have to know what happened yesterday. The kids attorney filed a motion to dismiss the charges. Here's why:

Redd was protesting being pepper-sprayed and his concerns were directed at the officers and were not attempts to incite the crowd.

He also argued that Redd did not resist law enforcement. Officer Michael Ward testified in court that Redd tried to pull one of his arms away and keep it under his body to avoid being handcuffed and that Redd repeatedly tried to push himself up from the pavement. However, Officer John Pieszchalski, his partner that night, testified that he did not see Redd do that.

Vonderahe noted the officers never reported in the affidavit of probable cause, written hours after the arrests, or in subsequent reports and testimony that Redd tried to get up or that they specifically told him to be quiet. The officers also testified that they could not recall specific things Redd allegedly yelled, other than general remarks about being pepper-sprayed.


http://www.courierpress.com/news/2010/aug/18/teens-trial-over-party-put-on-hold-judge-to/

So this morning the judge dismissed the the disorderly conduct charge, stating that objecting to being pepper sprayed is protected speech. The jury took 15 minutes to find him not guilty of resisting arrest, since even the cops couldn't agree that he did.

Every now and then we win one.

[Palehorse]

It will suck to be that kid if he drives around town. . . He'll get pulled over for driving. . . period! 

[LOsborne]

Charges have been dropped against the other three kids in the great graduation party hoopla!

http://www.courierpress.com/news/2010/aug/19/jury-rejects-party-charge/

A highlight of the testimony came when a witness said the boy didn't resist arrest -- in fact, he couldn't because one of the cops had a foot planted in the middle of his back while he lay on the ground. The cops couldn't remember which one of the did it.

The officers testified Wednesday that Redd resisted Ward's efforts to handcuff him. However, each of the officers testified that it was he who had to keep Redd in place on the ground by putting a knee on his back.

Anyway, the cops came off looking like bad fiction writers, and everyone expects them to be looking for payback. Prevailing wisdom says don't be downtown on foot after dark in the Devil's Playground. And it ain't because of the gangs and hoodlums.

[The Troll]

At graduation time last spring, the E'ville cops responded to a couple of parties. At the first one (on private property) they tasered a kid, who fell on his face on the concrete and wound up in the hospital with fractures to both eye sockets. Oddly enough, no one was arrested for minor consuming or anything else. The investigation into that one has gone sub rosa.

The other one took place in the parking lot of a downtown fraternal society. It was rented. Someone complained about noise, so the cops showed up -- without lights or sirens -- and began firing pepper spray balls into the crowd. They arrested four kids for disorderly conduct and resisting arrest. The first trial ended this morning. Not guilty. Take a look:

http://www.courierpress.com/news/2010/aug/19/charge-dismissed-scottish-rite-trial/

But to fully appreciate this comedy, you have to know what happened yesterday. The kids attorney filed a motion to dismiss the charges. Here's why:

Redd was protesting being pepper-sprayed and his concerns were directed at the officers and were not attempts to incite the crowd.

He also argued that Redd did not resist law enforcement. Officer Michael Ward testified in court that Redd tried to pull one of his arms away and keep it under his body to avoid being handcuffed and that Redd repeatedly tried to push himself up from the pavement. However, Officer John Pieszchalski, his partner that night, testified that he did not see Redd do that.

Vonderahe noted the officers never reported in the affidavit of probable cause, written hours after the arrests, or in subsequent reports and testimony that Redd tried to get up or that they specifically told him to be quiet. The officers also testified that they could not recall specific things Redd allegedly yelled, other than general remarks about being pepper-sprayed.


http://www.courierpress.com/news/2010/aug/18/teens-trial-over-party-put-on-hold-judge-to/

So this morning the judge dismissed the the disorderly conduct charge, stating that objecting to being pepper sprayed is protected speech. The jury took 15 minutes to find him not guilty of resisting arrest, since even the cops couldn't agree that he did.

Every now and then we win one.

The question is, does the bully cops still have their jobs?  If they do justice has not been served.

  Take a average ctitzen and walk into a crowd and start spraying pepper spray and pepper balls.  Just what do  you think would have happen to that citizen?  Put in jail and sued by everyone to got sprayed and hit with a peper ball.  I bet the asshole cops won't be sued.  Justice my ass.

[The Troll]

  The way the cop make up all of these charges need to be reduces.  Remember when you would read years ago.  The cops would break into a card game and arrest everybody.  The charge was the violation of the 1935 beverage act.  Back in those days practically every arrest was the violation of the 1935 Beverage law.

  The cops would brag about the 4 decks of cards, $100 in chips and 3 cases of beer confiscated.  Other charges were visiting a dive and gambling.  A friendly card game in your home was illegal if you played for money and used chips and had some alcohol while you played.

  Come to think of it, the damn cops were always wanting to break into your home, hell, give them any reason.  Things don't change with cops do they.

  Yes they do, now they use SWAT methods.  First they throw in flash/bang grenade and tear gas, then they break down your door down.  Throw everybody on the floor and hold a gun to their head.  Your friendly police force in action.  oh, how I love them 

[LOsborne]

Well, would ya lookie here:

http://www.courierpress.com/news/2010/jul/27/montgomery-wont-testify-trial-defense-rests-withou/

Y'all remember this asshole? He was the one who finally forced enough women to give him BJs, etc., that a couple of them actually had the guts to testify. He was found guilty. (Whoa! How did that happen?) And today he was sentenced. Twelve years. Now granted that will automatically become six years, and then four or less because he will go into some kind of rehab ... but he is guaranteed to spend at least several months in a facility where he will come to understand intimately the horror of being powerless to stop someone else's carnal demands.  YYYYAAAYYYY!!!!

http://www.courierpress.com/news/2010/aug/23/ex-police-officer-evansville-sentenced-12-years-ea/