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What can "YOU" do to get America working again.

Started by The Troll, July 26, 2010, 08:30:08 AM

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The Troll

  I know this topic will not go over very good or long.  Every day I see member of the Zone checking to read what is going on, but never have anything to say.  To me having nothing to say in this, the shape this country is in, is something I would say is unusual.  Don't we have anybody that is angry.  Somebody that is feed up the way thing are ran and the thieves who seem to get by with it because they only stole our money and wear a white shirt and suit.

  The question is, when you and the rest of the people of America buy something made in a foreign country and is made by a foreign manufacturing company here in this country.

  What does that purchase do for the rest of the people in the United States.  Plus the profit these foreign companies that make thing here in American and send the profits back to their country.  How does that help America.  Just what good , buying foreign products, do for your family, your extended family, neighbors and friends.

Speak up, what do you think.  What's good for America? :flag:  :flag:


LOsborne

What can "i" do to get America working again? Well right now, I'm going to work and try to hire a couple of people. Okay?

The Troll

Quote from: LOsborne on July 26, 2010, 08:32:09 AM
What can "i" do to get America working again? Well right now, I'm going to work and try to hire a couple of people. Okay?

  I glad you're hiring. Good, good.  But "YOU" didn't answer my question, what good does it do for our country when you buy foreign goods.  I know you got the brains to give me a good answer.

Sandy Eggo

Well, I'm not sure that the fact that people don't comment about the economy on a forum indicates apathy, because really that does little to help or solve the problem.

One of the smaller things that I do is offer volunteer resume and mock interviewing services to a local outreach center to help people improve their resumes and interviewing skills. I've also assisted the same organization w/job referrals and soliciting information re: openings w/various companies. The later is more of a goodwill type thing. I help keep the organization's name as a resource at the forefront of hiring official's minds.

I've also participated in employment clothing drives. These are intended to assist those who get a job, but can't afford the inital cost of uniforms or business/office attire.
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

Sandy Eggo

Foreign goods? I purchase as much as possible from local vendors. I try to avoid the corporate chains as much as possible. That's not a "foreign goods" issue for me as much as it is a "support my community" issue. Although, I could be more aware of where products come from. :yes:
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

Mr442

I bought a new truck and a motorcycle last year, both were made in the USA, the truck in Kentucky and the M/C in Ohio. 

I am taking retirement in a few more days.  I could have found another job within the company, but if my leaving will allow a younger person to stay, then so be it.  Same deal for jobs outside, I don't really need one, so I'll stay out of that market for a while and let the kids have them.  It alway pizzed me off to see some old codger retire and take up a job that someone younger could use to better themselves.  I don't want to be that codger.

I may start hiring out some of the larger projects around the house.  I don't like home repair, and there are folks doing it who could use the work.  I hired someone to take a tree down a couple months ago.

Beyond that I don't really know, but at least it's a start.

Mr442

Exterminator

I've been pimping for several girls at corners around town; does that count?   :icon_twisted:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

The Troll

Quote from: Exterminator on July 26, 2010, 02:03:34 PM
I've been pimping for several girls at corners around town; does that count?   :icon_twisted:

  They weren't Chinese or Mexicans were they.   :rolleyes: :biggrin:

Exterminator

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

The Troll

Quote from: Exterminator on July 26, 2010, 03:29:48 PM
We don't discriminate.

  Here you go, here I talk about using foreign products, and your using them.  Give me a break man.

The Troll

                                          :flag:  I WAS RIGHT  :flag:

  Not one person could tell me one thing that was good for the United States and it's people when they buy foreign products.  It's truly a shame and the bastard in Washington are talking about creation of jobs and nothing about changing the trade policies.

  Creating small business jobs.  Other than the owner's of the small business.  Nobody make a living wage.  Paying minimum pay and no benefits.  How can we have a strong middle class when there is nothing but $7.10 an hour jobs.  plus the small business won't let people work 40 hours a week because they would have to pay unemployment if the lay them off.

  It just like the illegal aliens, they, the powers that be, won't fix the real problem.  The Illegal employers.  Fine the hell out of them and put them in jail and give all police the power to arrest the illegal employers and when found guilty, the police force and the city that arrest them splits the fine money with the government.  The illegal employers would be heading for the hills.

  The illegal aliens, sending them home?  If they can't find jobs, they will go home just the same way they found their way up here.  Many of them can go home now in the cars and trucks they bought while they have been up here.

  Too many thieves are making too much money to change the system and the stupid sheeple are letting them.

Mr442

So tell me, how does my foreign product purchase work out when it was made in America, by American workers?  I traded my 100% German bike for a new Honda, made in Ohio.  Not that I wanted to support Japan, far from it, but I did not mind supporting our workers in their factory.  I've been told it has more American content that H-D has in their bike, so did I do better buying Japanese with more pieces made in the USA, than an American bike with less?  It's a slippery slope I know.  Just throwing this out for someting to think about.
Mr442

The Troll

Quote from: Mr442 on July 29, 2010, 03:56:32 PM
So tell me, how does my foreign product purchase work out when it was made in America, by American workers?  I traded my 100% German bike for a new Honda, made in Ohio.  Not that I wanted to support Japan, far from it, but I did not mind supporting our workers in their factory.  I've been told it has more American content that H-D has in their bike, so did I do better buying Japanese with more pieces made in the USA, than an American bike with less?  It's a slippery slope I know.  Just throwing this out for someting to think about.

I'm glad you ask that question.  Well, I suppose of the two, paying American workers for their labor and only their labor than something made by slave foreign labor, might be a little better.

  But look at this way. All of the property are owned by the Japs, all of the engineering is done by the Japs, all of the upper management are Japs, all of the clerical work and bookkeeping is done by the Japs and all of the profits, which is in the millions and millions of dollars are sent to Japan.  Can't you see that there is something wrong about this picture.

  If you were just getting out of high school and your pretty smart.  Would you go to college to be a mechanical engineer.  A mechanical draftsman.  Or you could go to work for the Japs that could and have moved their factories to Mexico for cheaper wages.  Toyota is doing it right now. 

  What do you think now.

Mr442

I do know that a lot of Americans are in engineering at American Honda and the Evansville Toyota plant, but I understand what you are getting at. 

The Honda purchase was much like my VW purchase in 2003.  Nobody else had anything I liked as well as what I ended up with.  I test rode other bikes, but not H-D due the fact that they could not fill the need for our type of riding.  The Honda was the last bike I looked at BTW.  The VW was similar in that of all the American brands we drove, they all sucked (technical term) compared to the VW.  I wanted a new Olds while I could still get one, but GM had nothing in the same class/size as the VW, that was as comfortable and fun to drive.  But to be fair, the wife and I take our behind the wheel time seriously and want to enjoy the experience.  GM and Ford had nothing small and inexpensive that filled the bill.

I guess in my case, the  American companies need to produce something of interest, and not just run of the mill, ho-hum products.  I have yet to consider a Japanese car or truck, but the way things are going I may not have a choice some day.  Fortunately Ford still builds some bad ass full size trucks.
Mr442

The Troll

Quote from: Mr442 on July 29, 2010, 08:18:27 PM
I do know that a lot of Americans are in engineering at American Honda and the Evansville Toyota plant, but I understand what you are getting at. 

The Honda purchase was much like my VW purchase in 2003.  Nobody else had anything I liked as well as what I ended up with.  I test rode other bikes, but not H-D due the fact that they could not fill the need for our type of riding.  The Honda was the last bike I looked at BTW.  The VW was similar in that of all the American brands we drove, they all sucked (technical term) compared to the VW.  I wanted a new Olds while I could still get one, but GM had nothing in the same class/size as the VW, that was as comfortable and fun to drive.  But to be fair, the wife and I take our behind the wheel time seriously and want to enjoy the experience.  GM and Ford had nothing small and inexpensive that filled the bill.

I guess in my case, the  American companies need to produce something of interest, and not just run of the mill, ho-hum products.  I have yet to consider a Japanese car or truck, but the way things are going I may not have a choice some day.  Fortunately Ford still builds some bad ass full size trucks.

  I bought a Honda Goldwing from a guy from Ford.  I bought it for the right price, it was cheaper than any Harley I liked.  It was one smooooooooooooth bike.  But it was bothering me about it being foreign.  The guys I worked with said, quite worrying about it.  You bought off an American.

  Like I said, I really liked it.  I kept it for a short time, but the women drivers didn't like me on it.  After three close calls with these women, especially the last one, I sold it.  I figured something was telling me, I was going to get hurt.  Three close calls were enough.