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A Tale of Two Cities

Started by Locutus, July 09, 2010, 06:12:32 PM

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The Troll



  If he's human and he is, he will screw up some way.  Small or Large he will make a mistake.  The only problem he has is, that he's under one hell a big, big spot light and one hell of a big, big magnifying glass and a big, big bunch of people waiting for him to do it.  :sneaky:  :yes:

Henry Hawk

He is NO Walter Payton, THAT is for sure..... Class is nearly lost on today's athletes ... Loyalty means nothing, it is all about the $$ and self image. Payton, was sought by every club in the NFL, and could have wrote his own check, but he wanted to stay with the folks who stood behind him and had some loyalty to George Halas, and stayed with the Bears and won a Super Bowl, with one of the greatest teams ever.....I remember Rick Sutcliffe, a pitcher for the Chi Cubs, once took a reduced salary, IF the Cubs would sign Andra Dawson....they got Dawson, and the Cubs had one of it's greatest seasons ever...Craig Biggio and Jeff Bagwell who played for the Houston Astro's took the minimum salary towards the end of their careers so they could STAY with the same club they came up with and play in a World Series, and they DID.

You don't hear much about THOSE kind of Classy guys much anymore.... :no: ..LJ, could have been forever a class act in Cleveland, but chose to go after MORE fame and MORE fortune....it was a ballsy choice, and more power to him, but I WISHED he would have STUCK it out with the folks who has supported him MOST of his life, and brought a National Championship to them....
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


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The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 10, 2010, 08:09:37 AM
He is NO Walter Payton, THAT is for sure..... Class is nearly lost on today's athletes ... Loyalty means nothing, it is all about the $$ and self image. Payton, was sought by every club in the NFL, and could have wrote his own check, but he wanted to stay with the folks who stood behind him and had some loyalty to George Halas, and stayed with the Bears and won a Super Bowl, with one of the greatest teams ever.....I remember Rick Sutcliffe, a pitcher for the Chi Cubs, once took a reduced salary, IF the Cubs would sign Andra Dawson....they got Dawson, and the Cubs had one of it's greatest seasons ever...Craig Biggio and Jeff Bagwell who played for the Houston Astro's took the minimum salary towards the end of their careers so they could STAY with the same club they came up with and play in a World Series, and they DID.

You don't hear much about THOSE kind of Classy guys much anymore.... :no: ..LJ, could have been forever a class act in Cleveland, but chose to go after MORE fame and MORE fortune....it was a ballsy choice, and more power to him, but I WISHED he would have STUCK it out with the folks who has supported him MOST of his life, and brought a National Championship to them....

  It would be nice to do the loyalty thing.  But in this case, it the money and I don't fault him for it.  In any sport the live spam of the athlete isn't very long.  The main thing, he the one working for it.  He was born with that skill and he doing it all by himself.  He not like the CEO sitting on his ass using other peoples money and in a lot of cases their stealing that.  People pay to see him play and if he doesn't they don't pay and he's histroy.

   
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followsthewolf

Wasn't strictly the money -- Cleveland offered him more money than Miami.

Probably thought he had outgrown Cleveland; became a lifestyle thing for him.

Additionally, he probably felt he had a better chance of getting rings in Miami.

Leaves me with the feeling that --
     
      Lebron James, for all the hype, doesn't have what it takes to deliver championships as the head-honcho leader. He needs to be part of a "trio" to make it happen. I'm fairly convinced now that he never will have the qualities of Micheal Jordan (who, in all honesty, needed Scotty Pippen to win championships), Larry Bird, Julius Erving, etc., all of whom had the talent and the leadership qualities necessary.
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The Troll

Quote from: followsthewolf on July 10, 2010, 06:42:07 PM
Wasn't strictly the money -- Cleveland offered him more money than Miami.

Probably thought he had outgrown Cleveland; became a lifestyle thing for him.

Additionally, he probably felt he had a better chance of getting rings in Miami.

Leaves me with the feeling that --
     
      Lebron James, for all the hype, doesn't have what it takes to deliver championships as the head-honcho leader. He needs to be part of a "trio" to make it happen. I'm fairly convinced now that he never will have the qualities of Micheal Jordan (who, in all honesty, needed Scotty Pippen to win championships), Larry Bird, Julius Erving, etc., all of whom had the talent and the leadership qualities necessary.

  I agree with what you say.  :tiphat: