Constitution Is Endangered If Kagan OK'd...

[The Troll]

So, you guys have NO problem that a SCOTUS should be able to "Make and Create" laws?

  IT IS ALL RIGHT WITH ME.  If the Supreme Court make laws to protect the people of the United States, IT IS ALL RIGHT WITH ME.

   But laws giving the rich the right to rule over us is wrong.  Like the state, county, cities and towns taking our property and selling to the moneyed people and giving corporations the same rights as Humans and that is WHAT Is WRONG.   That is wrong, isn't it, Henry?  Or do the rich and the corporations they own get everything.

  The Troll,        For the American people, not the rich and the corporations they own.

[Bo D]

So, you guys have NO problem that a SCOTUS should be able to "Make and Create" laws?

Has Kagan ever actually said that?

[The Troll]

Has Kagan ever actually said that?

  I don't think so.  But Olias you had to open Pandra's box didn't you.  Henry or "ME" will come up with something from Grlen Beck or the Fox News channel to prove it.  So hang on, you started it.  the Troll     ZOO LU LU BOO BOO  

[Henry Hawk]

  IT IS ALL RIGHT WITH ME.  If the Supreme Court make laws to protect the people of the United States, IT IS ALL RIGHT WITH ME.

   But laws giving the rich the right to rule over us is wrong.  Like the state, county, cities and towns taking our property and selling to the moneyed people and giving corporations the same rights as Humans and that is WHAT Is WRONG.   That is wrong, isn't it, Henry?  Or do the rich and the corporations they own get everything.

  The Troll,    For the American people, not the rich and the corporations they own.

First of all Troll, I whole heartedly disagee that we should go against our Constitution and allow our SCOTUS to make the laws or create laws...that goes against what our forefathers worked very hard at designing to give us one of the most balanced Govenments...I do not disagree with you on laws giving the rich the right to rule over us...but we the people have the right to control that IF and WHEN we get mad enough to start firing those politicians that are allowing that...

Troll, I too am VERY much for the middle class Americans...but I do not hate the rich folks either....I agree, that greed is hard to govern, but I still believe that TOO much power belonging to politicians in Washington is JUST as, if NOT more so dangerous to this country..............I really don't think we are ALL that far apart from what we want as Americans...

[Bo D]

  I don't think so.  But Olias you had to open Pandra's box didn't you.  Henry or "ME" will come up with something from Grlen Beck or the Fox News channel to prove it.  So hang on, you started it.  the Troll     ZOO LU LU BOO BOO  

Naw..... they'll use that old "guilty by association" ploy, but they won't be able to find where Kagan ever said it.


Because she didn't.

[Bo D]

Speaking of guilty by association .....

Most people seem to admire Winston Churchill. This quote from him is one of my favorites ...

"The best argument against democracy is a five minute conversation with the average voter."

[Henry Hawk]

Has Kagan ever actually said that?

Not that I am aware of, but she has stated, this about Barak, that  "He is the judge or justice in my lifetime whom I think best represents and has best advanced the values of democracy and human rights, of the rule of law and of justice,"...she has also said  "that he is my judicial hero".......All I can do is take these bits of information that we are getting from these hearings and make conclusions....this is a lifetime appointment....we cannot vote anyone out if we decide later we don't like them.

[The Troll]

First of all Troll, I whole heartedly disagee that we should go against our Constitution and allow our SCOTUS to make the laws or create laws...that goes against what our forefathers worked very hard at designing to give us one of the most balanced Govenments...I do not disagree with you on laws giving the rich the right to rule over us...but we the people have the right to control that IF and WHEN we get mad enough to start firing those politicians that are allowing that... Troll, I too am VERY much for the middle class Americans...but I do not hate the rich folks either....I agree, that greed is hard to govern, but I still believe that TOO much power belonging to politicians in Washington is JUST as, if NOT more so dangerous to this country..............I really don't think we are ALL that far apart from what we want as Americans...

Henry, I know how hard of forefathers worked on the Constitution. But Henry, it was 1776 and a lot of water has went over the dam. These men never knew what a germ was, never seen a sperm, know nothing about modern science, didn't know what a soy bean was. Didn't have no idea of what a bank industry was or how large it would get. What a corporation was or how large they would get. They did know that any wound to the brain or body cavaity was fatal. If you got sick you just drew off some blood and prayed, people got well. Things change and things, Humans or Animals that don't change die and that's the same with the Constitution. If you don't change with the way things are growing it will die. The Cons tution is living thing. There are many deadly forces in this country that would like to see the Constitution die.

[Exterminator]

Just call me The Amazing Kreskin

You're flamboyant clairvoyant!

[Exterminator]

Keep on hammering away at me, I am NEVER going to back down from what I know is RIGHT and WRONG for this country....ya'll are stuck with me!!

Of course not because your ego is too big to even consider the possibility that you are wrong even while everyone around you (with the exception of 'me'...think that through) is telling you that you are and why.  I'm thinking that if I was surrounded by people, many of whom were obviously better educated and better read than I, who disagreed with my position, maybe, just maybe, I may want to humble myself and allow for the possibility that it isn't everyone else but me whose thinking is off.  Just sayin'.

[Palehorse]

. . ."When you get on the bench [and] you put on the robe, your only master is the rule of law," she said, adding that she would be "independent and not favor any political party."
Kagan cited the example of Justice Robert Jackson, a Democrat who served as solicitor general and attorney general during President Franklin Roosevelt's administration. Once appointed to the Supreme Court, "he was as independent as they come," she said.. . .

. . .Asked to give her opinion on the large number of recent 5-4 Supreme Court rulings, Kagan said "every judge has to do what he or she thinks the law requires." But "the court is served best and our country is served best when people trust the court as an entirely nonpolitical body.". . .

http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/06/30/pol.senate.supreme.court/index.html?hpt=Sbin

[Exterminator]

She lied. And even worse, she picked unrelated comments and put them together to mean something totally different than what was actually said.

Henry proved in the run up to the last presidential election that that is a perfectly acceptable tactic so long as his agenda is met.  So much for those pesky commandments. 

[Henry Hawk]

Henry, I know how hard of forefathers worked on the Constitution. But Henry, it was 1776 and a lot of water has went over the dam. These men never knew what a germ was, never seen a sperm, know nothing about modern science, didn't know what a soy bean was. Didn't have no idea of what a bank industry was or how large it would get. What a corporation was or how large they would get. They did know that any wound to the brain or body cavaity was fatal. If you got sick you just drew off some blood and prayed, people got well. Things change and things, Humans or Animals that don't change die and that's the same with the Constitution. If you don't change with the way things are growing it will die. The Cons tution is living thing. There are many deadly forces in this country that would like to see the Constitution die.

The Constitution has created the most significant piece of writting that we can NEVER let go....and that is the system of checks and balances that it incorporates.....the founding fathers knew the effects of allowing one group to establish too much power within a county...that is why they established the check and balances system, so no one branch could become all-powerful....

[Henry Hawk]

Of course not because your ego is too big to even consider the possibility that you are wrong even while everyone around you (with the exception of 'me'...think that through) is telling you that you are and why.  I'm thinking that if I was surrounded by people, many of whom were obviously better educated and better read than I, who disagreed with my position, maybe, just maybe, I may want to humble myself and allow for the possibility that it isn't everyone else but me whose thinking is off.  Just sayin'.

That is not entirely true, I have lessened my stance on some issues, due to my wacknut friend's here on the zone.. ...I have at the least grasped WHY some of you believe in what you believe...I tend to think that some ego's on here are prohibiting them from understanding some simple and basic understandings of conservatism....too many on here are wearing blinders, and have already made up their minds to many issues, just as you accuse me of.

I am not as nearly hard headed as I was when I first joined the Hey Martha days, but some issues are clearly black and white to me....despite the attempts at painting them by my counterparts...

[The Troll]

  I have lessened my stance on some issues, due to my wacknut friend's here on the zone.. ...

WELL, ZOO LU LU BOO BOO   to you, too!