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"Topkill" - Will it Turn into Bottomkill?

Started by Palehorse, May 27, 2010, 11:34:13 AM

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Palehorse

#45
June 01, 2010, 11:55:48 AM
Quote from: rotflmao on June 01, 2010, 11:53:32 AM
So Pres Bush was fried in oil because he let The elected Mayor and Governor of Louisiana room to do their jobs which they failed miserably with. The socialist  man child gets a pass for over 30 days.

Typical.
Thanks for validating my point. . .
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Henry Hawk

#46
June 01, 2010, 01:13:06 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on June 01, 2010, 11:55:48 AM
Thanks for validating my point. . .

They (the Mayor & Gov of La) failed to do their jobs because they were IDIOTS, NOT because the Gov WAS or WAS NOT there...(Bush declared a State of Emergency 3-days before Katrina hit)....

I just think, (and it is ALL hindsite now)...we NEVER had an event like this before....I think this was an opportunity for Obama to step in and show some leadership....to his defense, the "fix" of this is NOT an easy solution....as it is obvious, because it is STILL spewing....The Gov of Louisana has claimed that he has NOT had expediant help by the fed government with getting proper help to stop the oil from reaching his coastline...
I think the folks in that area needed some emotion by the POTUS to be assured that everything is being done....and it has been mostly left to BP to fix....I see a weak effort by the Adminstration to see this thing through...
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

#47
June 01, 2010, 01:36:44 PM
It would appear you missed that point as well Hank. . .
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That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

#48
June 01, 2010, 01:43:13 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on June 01, 2010, 01:36:44 PM
It would appear you missed that point as well Hank. . .

I understand YOUR point, but I think YOU are missing the point rotflmao was making...

I think there is a time and a place for Gov involvement....and Emergencies such as this, is a perfect example of when our Government should step in...and THIS would not have equated a covert path to socialism..it would have been a time for leadership to get through the storm....such as Giuliani did on 9/11...
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

#49
June 01, 2010, 01:47:11 PM
Once again, you are validating my point. The opposition will spin this any way they can in order to utilize it as a club with which to beat the POTUS.

Funny how Katrina was "we NEVER had an event like this before.", but not in the case of the oil spill. . . And I suppose the corruption of the regulatory agency that failed to do their jobs is also not a mitigating factor in this case either. . . :rolleyes:
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That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

#50
June 01, 2010, 01:50:33 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on June 01, 2010, 01:47:11 PM
Once again, you are validating my point. The opposition will spin this any way they can in order to utilize it as a club with which to beat the POTUS.

Funny how Katrina was "we NEVER had an event like this before.", but not in the case of the oil spill. . . And I suppose the corruption of the regulatory agency that failed to do their jobs is also not a mitigating factor in this case either. . . :rolleyes:


you mean like the MMS giving a Safety Award to the Deepwater Horizon last winter?....
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

#51
June 01, 2010, 02:05:46 PM
Their latest initiative (BP) is being called "cut and cap". Next up, "duck and run"!  :mad:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Locutus

#52
June 01, 2010, 02:24:15 PM
Trouble is, the oil will flow unimpeded after the cut is made, so if the cap doesn't work, the situation will be worse than what it presently is. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Henry Hawk

#53
June 01, 2010, 02:25:00 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on June 01, 2010, 02:05:46 PM
Their latest initiative (BP) is being called "cut and cap". Next up, "duck and run"!  :mad:

I think you need to give them a chance first to see how they handle things AFTER they stop it....
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

me

#54
June 01, 2010, 02:28:08 PM
Just a tiny sidetrack.......Ricker's is now Marathon.  Guess they figured they'd be better off to change companies than lose business. 
Trump 2020

Palehorse

#55
June 01, 2010, 02:42:32 PM
Quote from: me on June 01, 2010, 02:28:08 PM
Just a tiny sidetrack.......Ricker's is now Marathon.  Guess they figured they'd be better off to change companies than lose business.

Seriously?  :spooked:
Quote from: Locutus on June 01, 2010, 02:24:15 PM
Trouble is, the oil will flow unimpeded after the cut is made, so if the cap doesn't work, the situation will be worse than what it presently is. 
Exactly!  :mad: :mad: :mad:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Palehorse

#56
June 01, 2010, 02:49:45 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 01, 2010, 02:25:00 PM
I think you need to give them a chance first to see how they handle things AFTER they stop it....

I have zero faith in BP and zero trust for them, inclusive of the oil industry in general. I do not look for this thing to be stopped until August or September, when the relief wells reach it. . .
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

#57
June 01, 2010, 02:57:54 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on June 01, 2010, 02:49:45 PM
I have zero faith in BP and zero trust for them, inclusive of the oil industry in general. I do not look for this thing to be stopped until August or September, when the relief wells reach it. . .

and you think that they are not trying to stop this?......I just don't see where they have anything to gain by NOT stopping this as soon as they possibly can, despite you trust them or not....
I have as much faith in them as I do our Government.....not any difference between them at all.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

#58
June 01, 2010, 03:01:34 PM
BP is not being truthful and has not demonstrated good faith. They have earned no trust in doing so.
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Locutus

#59
June 01, 2010, 03:04:00 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on June 01, 2010, 03:01:34 PM
BP is not being truthful and has not demonstrated good faith. They have earned no trust in doing so.

:yes:

Matter of fact, they're going to great lengths to ensure that they don't have to be truthful.
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson
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