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Republican Party, Teabag Party and the Libertarian Party absolutely SUCK!

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Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 15, 2017, 12:39:58 PM
You are 100% correct, and I see Trump as the only person in recent history, that is trying to accomplish this...

You accidentally quoted the wrong part of PH's post in your response:

Quote from: Palehorse on September 15, 2017, 11:54:19 AM
No. I believe that whack nut in North Korea will be the protagonist needed to force this fucking country to stop the crap and get back to being America and Americans. . . Sad. VERY sad. But it is the truth as I see it.

Some portion of the population of this country is going to be subjected to nuclear fallout and death before we unite again as one country. Sacrifices to the war Gods are apparently required. . .
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

libby

I am White and was a young girl growing up in a place where at least one white uneducated person said something so offensive about blacks that I will never repeat it, so thank you, Exterminator, for posting this.   

Quote from: Exterminator on September 15, 2017, 09:05:22 AM
No, White Friend—You Weren't "Embarrassed" by Barack Obama -- by John Pavlovitz

I remember the day after the Election, a friend of mine who happens to be white, remarked on social media that he "finally wasn't embarrassed of America and our President."

I sprained my eyes rolling them and they have never fully recovered.

Since then I've heard this sentiment echoed by more white folks than I can count, especially in recent months; supposed relief at once again having a leader who instills pride.

Since I don't have the time to ask each of the individually, I'll ask here:

So, you were embarrassed for the past 8 years, huh?

Really?

What exactly were you embarrassed by?

Were you embarrassed by his lone and enduring twenty-five year marriage to a strong woman he's never ceased to publicly praise, respect, or cherish?

Were you embarrassed by the way he lovingly and sweetly parented and protected his daughters?

Were you embarrassed by his Columbia University degree in Political Science or his graduating magna cum laude from Harvard Law School?

Maybe you were embarrassed by his white American and Black Kenyan parents, or the diversity he was raised in as normal?

Were you embarrassed by his eloquence, his quick wit, his easy humor, his seeming comfort meeting with both world leaders and street cleaners; by his bright smile or his sense of empathy or his steadiness—perhaps by his lack of personal scandals or verbal gaffes or impulsive tirades?

No. Of course you weren't.

Honestly, I don't believe you were ever embarrassed. That word implies an association that brings ridicule, one that makes you ashamed by association, and if that's something you claim to have experienced over the past eight years by having Barack Obama representing you in the world—I'm going to suggest you rethink your word choice.

You weren't "embarrassed" by Barack Obama.

You were threatened by him.
You were offended by him.
You were challenged by him.
You were enraged by him.

But I don't believe it had anything to do with his resume or his experience or his character or his conduct in office—because you seem fully proud right now to be associated with a three-time married, serial adulterer and confessed predator; a man whose election and business dealings and relationships are riddled with controversy and malfeasance. You're perfectly fine being represented by a bullying, obnoxious, genitalia-grabbing, Tweet-ranting, Prime Minister-shoving charlatan who's managed to offend all our allies in a few short months. And you're okay with him putting on religious faith like a rented, dusty, ill-fitting tuxedo and immediately tossing it in the garbage when he's finished with it.

None of that you're embarrassed of? I wonder how that works.

Actually, I'm afraid I have an idea. I hope I'm wrong.

Listen, you're perfectly within your rights to have disagreed with Barack Obama's policies or to have taken issue with his tactics. No one's claiming he was a flawless politician or a perfect human being. But somehow I don't think that's what we're talking about here. I think the thing President Obama did that really upset you, white friend—was having a complexion that was far darker than you were ever comfortable with. I think the President we have now feels much better.

Because objectively speaking, if what's happening in our country right now doesn't cause you great shame and doesn't induce the continual meeting of your palm to your face—I don't believe embarrassment is ever something you struggle with.

No, if you claimed to be "embarrassed" by Barack Obama but you're not embarrassed by Donald Trump—I'm going to strongly suggest it was largely a pigmentation issue.

And as an American and a Christian committed to diversity and equality and to the liberty at the heart of this nation—that, embarrasses me.
All of life is a process of testing and initiation, always preparing for a higher level of consciousness -- and illumination. -- John Horn

Exterminator

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

Quote from: libby on September 15, 2017, 02:21:26 PM
I am White and was a young girl growing up in a place where at least one white uneducated person said something so offensive about blacks that I will never repeat it, so thank you, Exterminator, for posting this.

You're welcome!  I think it's funny to see all of the self-righteous indignation over the ESPN reporter saying Trump is a white supremacist considering what people (including Trump himself) said about Obama.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on September 15, 2017, 02:41:32 PM
You're welcome!  I think it's funny to see all of the self-righteous indignation over the ESPN reporter saying Trump is a white supremacist considering what people (including Trump himself) said about Obama.
I don't think there is any self-righteousness, just pointing out more MSM hypocrisy, where they have fired analysts for saying political opinions where it was from a conservative's point of view, but when someone takes a shot at Trump, it is OKEYDOKEE! (sp) :razz: ;)
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 15, 2017, 12:39:58 PM
You are 100% correct, and I see Trump as the only person in recent history, that is trying to accomplish this....as recent as his meetings with Schumer & Pelosi, trying to accomplish issues for Americans.

Trump is a liar and a blowhard. He's just executing an end run on the GOP in order to save face with his (gr)ass root supporters and make it appear his plan to resurrect the Berlin Wall on the US southern border is still something he is working on and has a possibility of being accomplished.

As an aside you do realize that building that wall makes Rappin Ronnie a hypocrite. . . ". . . Tear down that wall. . ." Along with the rest of the nation.
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Palehorse

R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

me

Quote from: Palehorse on September 16, 2017, 01:01:53 AM
Trump is a liar and a blowhard. He's just executing an end run on the GOP in order to save face with his (gr)ass root supporters and make it appear his plan to resurrect the Berlin Wall on the US southern border is still something he is working on and has a possibility of being accomplished.

As an aside you do realize that building that wall makes Rappin Ronnie a hypocrite. . . ". . . Tear down that wall. . ." Along with the rest of the nation.
Tell me, how does the wall to protect us from drug dealers and illegal's compare to the Berlin wall? What is so wrong about wanting these people to enter the country legally?
Trump 2020

Palehorse

Quote from: me on September 16, 2017, 11:11:45 AM
Tell me, how does the wall to protect us from drug dealers and illegal's compare to the Berlin wall? What is so wrong about wanting these people to enter the country legally?

Why should I take any time from my busy day, to explain to you the reasons this country should not build that wall? You won't listen to or even consider anything that doesn't absolutely support your skewed world view and opinions.

Instead you can answer it yourself by truthfully answering just how a wall is going to protect this nation from drug dealers and illegals? Just a wall or will there be something more?
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

me

Quote from: Palehorse on September 16, 2017, 11:18:08 AM
Why should I take any time from my busy day, to explain to you the reasons this country should not build that wall? You won't listen to or even consider anything that doesn't absolutely support your skewed world view and opinions.

Instead you can answer it yourself by truthfully answering just how a wall is going to protect this nation from drug dealers and illegals? Just a wall or will there be something more?
Oh please, you really can't be serious about not understanding how it will show down the crossing of the drug gangs and illegal traffic. Would you buy land and a house on the border and live there under the current conditions or live in one of the border towns?
Trump 2020

Palehorse

Quote from: me on September 16, 2017, 12:39:38 PM
Oh please, you really can't be serious about not understanding how it will show down the crossing of the drug gangs and illegal traffic.

Oh it'll "show" them down alright. . . for about sixty seconds. . . Until they erect a secondary fence of razor wire and create the "kill zone" just as existed in Berlin. . .

Then they'll just resume tunneling operations and become mules for the drug czars. . .


Quote from: me on September 16, 2017, 12:39:38 PM
Would you buy land and a house on the border and live there under the current conditions or live in one of the border towns?

Yes. Why wouldn't you do so?
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

me

Quote from: Palehorse on September 17, 2017, 05:37:25 PM
Oh it'll "show" them down alright. . . for about sixty seconds. . . Until they erect a secondary fence of razor wire and create the "kill zone" just as existed in Berlin. . .

Then they'll just resume tunneling operations and become mules for the drug czars. . .


Yes. Why wouldn't you do so?
I think it would be wise for you to talk to someone who has lived or does live there, and not in Houston either, I mean a border town where a lot of the crossings occur.
Trump 2020

Palehorse

Quote from: me on September 17, 2017, 07:48:08 PM
I think it would be wise for you to talk to someone who has lived or does live there, and not in Houston either, I mean a border town where a lot of the crossings occur.

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R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Palehorse on September 16, 2017, 01:01:53 AM
Trump is a liar and a blowhard.
Well, then so is Hillary, Pelosi, Schummer, Bernie, congress..........name me someone in Washington that isn't?  Let's move on.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW