Republican Party, Teabag Party and the Libertarian Party absolutely SUCK!

[Exterminator]

Only because (1) they ran out of time...this was months before Bush took office...or (2) they lacked the courage to go after Saddam.

...or (3) they weren't bumbling fucking idiots.

[Henry Hawk]

...or (3) they weren't bumbling fucking idiots.

and we know for a FACT that that is not true...so that leaves us with 1 or 2.  I'm leaning towards 2.

[Locutus]

The consequences of that fool's foray into Iraq have been nothing short of disastrous. 

[Palehorse]

The consequences of that fool's foray into Iraq have been nothing short of disastrous.

Enough said.

The rest of this has been reruns and old news. . .

[Henry Hawk]

Enough said.

The rest of this has been reruns and old news. . .

Amen to that!

[The Troll]

Only because (1) they ran out of time...this was months before Bush took office...or (2) they lacked the courage to go after Saddam.

I'm not saying Bush didn't make a mistake...I think he did.  Attacking Iraq was a good thing.......going to war with them was not.  Shock and Awe was were we should have drawn the line...imo

  Attacking Iraq was a good thing.    Birdy, you need a new brain, the one you got now has dry rotted.   

[Y]

That STILL doesn't me squat when you look at what Albright, Clinton and other were saying BEFORE Bush even took office.....there was plenty of evidence, according to them, of WMD's and the threat by Saddam.

The fact is, THEY knew he was a threat........then after Bush had the balls to do something, they threw him under the bus....for political gain.

You are truly an idiot whose stock in trade is lies and half truths you continually regurgitate even after being debunked years ago and over and over again.   

http://theunknownzone.dailynuisanceproductions.com/index.php?action=post;quote=505370;topic=16915.3735;last_msg=505989

That's a half-truth statement spun to be something it isn't - on both sides, Bob and Bush's - and another load of steaming BS of yours I debunked years ago.

A refresher:

Yes Iraq had WMDs (the operative word, HAD) - in specific, chemical weapons - that America provided Hussein under dear ole' traitorous Ronnie Ray-Gun during the Iran-Iraq war, back when Hussein was our 'friend'.

At the time of the Shrub's illegal incursion into Iraq, those WMDs Ronnie so gladly provided Hussein were gone, Hussein having used the last of them on the Kurds.

Ergo, the Shrub's WMD excuse was empty and simply a tool for whipping up the masses for an illegal attack on a sovereign nation...

...and YOU are still pimping that lie today, YEARS after the facts.

[Palehorse]

I see old Ted Cruz (aka: The New Joe McCarthy) is spouting off about the U.S. opening of an embassy in Cuba, saying it is wrong since we do not have one is Israel and they should be first.

Seriously? Seems to me that Cuba is open toward establishing diplomatic relations, we already have a military presence there, and our former policies surrounding Cuba have done nothing but punish its citizens for decades. . . Not to  mention they are logistically a whole hell of a lot closer to the U.S. than Israel is.

Then we have Israel and its high maintenance diplomatic policies, etc. . .

I'm not saying Israel is out, but I am saying we need to take care of our own house before we try to advise others on theirs. . .

Cruz is a zealot, and this country is doomed if he ever obtains the Oval Office!

[Henry Hawk]

What I think Ted is saying is that Obama seems to be coddling our traditional enemies all the while his is alienating our traditional allies....

I am still learning about Ted....I don't think he is a zealot...I think he IS PASSIONATE with some traditional beliefs.

[Palehorse]

What I think Ted is saying is that Obama seems to be coddling our traditional enemies all the while his is alienating our traditional allies....

I am still learning about Ted....I don't think he is a zealot...I think he IS PASSIONATE with some traditional beliefs.

A zealot is one who is uncompromising in the pursuit of their religious, political, or other ideals. That is Cruz in a nutshell. While I have no problem with an individual having passion for something, ideally that passion would drive them to become highly educated surrounding what it is they are passionate about. Not so much in the case of Cruz, as his blathering has demonstrated.

Diplomacy dictates that you pursue improvement of national relationships with those who traditionally are considered an enemy. How else can war over disagreements (stupid in many cases) be avoided?

I see McCarthy in him, and he will be just that should he ever obtain enough power. He has already demonstrated that too! 

Historical alliances change as national initiatives die or are born. Our relationship with Israel is a long one, and like any other relationship there are times that are good and bad; the key to longevity is compromise. Something Cuba presently is a lot more willing to pursue than is Israel.

Granted, Israel's situation is a lot more dire, (global security wise), than that of Cuba; however, the U.S. must secure normalized relations with it's logistical neighbors in order to bolster the condition of homeland security domestically. I am old enough to remember the fear driven by the Cuban Missile Crises and the exponentially higher level of fear it drove knowing the threat was just a little over 200 miles off our shoreline.

National Security wise, it makes sense to secure Cuba's future and to build a strong alliance with that country and its citizens. All that it would take for our homeland security to be placed into severe jeopardy would be for an extremist group like ISIS to take over that country. I don't think any of us wants to think of the ramifications of that happening!

[Henry Hawk]

A zealot is one who is uncompromising in the pursuit of their religious, political, or other ideals. That is Cruz in a nutshell. While I have no problem with an individual having passion for something, ideally that passion would drive them to become highly educated surrounding what it is they are passionate about. Not so much in the case of Cruz, as his blathering has demonstrated.

Diplomacy dictates that you pursue improvement of national relationships with those who traditionally are considered an enemy. How else can war over disagreements (stupid in many cases) be avoided?

I think Ted is indicating that relationship CAN happen, but he first wants the WH to demonstrate that they have made some progress in alleviating the misery of the people of Cuba....even fellow democrat Menendez is cautious of Obama's motives by stating..."democracy and human rights take a back seat to a legacy initiative.".....Ted is at the least of Cuban dissent, he understands the history involved....so it is not like he doesn't have a desire to see the best for that country, but better than than he wants what is BEST for out country.

I'm not ready to jump on the Cruz bandwagon for POTUS, but I don't think he is an idiot by any fashion....and to compare him to McCarthy, well, I don't see that.

The bigger picture I think Cruz is making is that to relocate the embassy to Jerusalem, which is a much bigger issue than Cuba at this time of day....

[Palehorse]

I think Ted is indicating that relationship CAN happen, but he first wants the WH to demonstrate that they have made some progress in alleviating the misery of the people of Cuba....even fellow democrat Menendez is cautious of Obama's motives by stating..."democracy and human rights take a back seat to a legacy initiative.".....Ted is at the least of Cuban dissent, he understands the history involved....so it is not like he doesn't have a desire to see the best for that country, but better than than he wants what is BEST for out country.

I'm not ready to jump on the Cruz bandwagon for POTUS, but I don't think he is an idiot by any fashion....and to compare him to McCarthy, well, I don't see that.

The bigger picture I think Cruz is making is that to relocate the embassy to Jerusalem, which is a much bigger issue than Cuba at this time of day....

If he obtains the endorsement of the GOP, I want to see:

1. His birth certificate.
2. Proof he is a US Citizen.
3. Proof his parents are/were US Citizens
4. Proof that demonstrates his allegiance to the USA.

Then, if he obtains the Oval Office he will be free to pursue placement of an embassy in Israel. That way, when ISIS or some other group of whack nuts besiege that embassy and kill the US Citizens manning it, he will get his own education surrounding what happened in Benghazi. . .

[Henry Hawk]

If he obtains the endorsement of the GOP, I want to see:

1. His birth certificate.
2. Proof he is a US Citizen.
3. Proof his parents are/were US Citizens
4. Proof that demonstrates his allegiance to the USA.

Then, if he obtains the Oval Office he will be free to pursue placement of an embassy in Israel. That way, when ISIS or some other group of whack nuts besiege that embassy and kill the US Citizens manning it, he will get his own education surrounding what happened in Benghazi. . .

Fair enough....I think he can and will answer/handle all of those questions with no problems. 

Btw, do you know who started the whole "Obama wasn't born in the US" story?

I will wait for an answer.

[Palehorse]

Deleted- proven false.


May 20, 2015
"Every year we spend roughly $500 billion on tax compliance. That is roughly the budget of our entire military, entirely wasted on tax compliance."

April 27, 2015
"About half of the presidents have been governors; half of them, senators."

April 8, 2015
Deleted- proven false.

March 30, 2015
"Today roughly half of born-again Christians aren't voting. They're staying home."

March 24, 2015
"Small businesses (are) going out of business in record numbers."

March 20, 2015
"Many of the alarmists on global warming, they've got a problem because the science doesn't back them up. In particular, satellite data demonstrate for the last 17 years, there's been zero warming."

February 10, 2015
"92 million Americans aren't working."

November 21, 2014
In the 2014 elections, "the American people overwhelmingly said we don't want Obamacare ... and we don't want amnesty."

Who said all of this and a whole lot more? Yes, Ted Cruz. And they are all lies. Proven and fact checked lies.

And I really don't care who started the whole birth certificate lie with Obama. I know who perpetuated it despite unquestionable proof to the contrary.

[Henry Hawk]

May 28, 2015
"While there may have been an age difference, Josh Duggar's transgressions are far less an affront to God than what gays do to each other."

First stop....

Our ruling

A Facebook post depicted Cruz saying: "While there may have been an age difference, Josh Duggar's transgressions are far less an affront to God than what gays do to each other."

Didn't happen and ridiculous. Pants on Fire!

PANTS ON FIRE – The statement is not accurate and makes a ridiculous claim.