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Republican Party, Teabag Party and the Libertarian Party absolutely SUCK!

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The Troll

Quote from: Exterminator on December 17, 2014, 04:33:32 PM
I can summarize it for you...because you have deluded yourself into believing that you are the smartest man on the planet while your actual intelligence and understanding is average at best.   :rolleyes:


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Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on December 17, 2014, 04:33:32 PM
I can summarize it for you...because you have deluded yourself into believing that you are the smartest man on the planet while your actual intelligence and understanding is average at best.   :rolleyes:
What did you can by this response?  It just proves just how shallow you are.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

libby

Quote from: me on December 17, 2014, 11:03:41 AM
If the dems run that one idiot woman who tried to pass herself off as a Native American they may as well hang it up.
:eek: There are not many things that would upset me enough to jump into a conversation like this, but, if you are referring to Elizabeth Warren, well, for starters I suggest you read the following from today's Washington Post. She is one brave woman!   

The Washington Post
Wednesday, December 17 2014

'Enough is enough': Elizabeth Warren launches fiery attack after Congress weakens Wall Street regs

By Wonkblog Staff December 12, 2014

With Congress set to pass a government spending bill that weakens a provision of Dodd-Frank, Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) took the floor of the Senate on Friday evening to lash out at her colleagues. In her remarks, she took specific aim at mega-bank Citigroup, saying it wields unusual power in government and must be reigned in. "Many Wall Street institutions have exerted extraordinary influence in Washington's corridors of power, but Citigroup has risen above the others," she said. "Its grip over economic policymaking in the executive branch is unprecedented."

Warren, pushing her party to take a less friendly attitude toward Wall Street, called on Congress to do as much for families living paycheck to paycheck as it does for big banks. Her prepared remarks follow:

Mr. President, I'm back on the floor to talk about a dangerous provision that was slipped into a must-pass spending bill at the last minute to benefit Wall Street. This provision would repeal a rule called, and I'm quoting the title of the rule, "PROHIBITION AGAINST FEDERAL GOVERNMENT BAILOUTS OF SWAPS ENTITIES."

On Wednesday, I came to the floor to talk to Democrats, asking them to strip this provision out of the omnibus bill and protect taxpayers.

On Thursday, I came to the floor to talk to Republicans. Republicans say they don't like bailouts either. So I asked them to vote the way they talk. If they don't like bailouts, then they could take out this provision that puts taxpayers right back on the hook for bailing out big banks.

Today, I'm coming to the floor not to talk about Democrats or Republicans, but about a third group that also wields tremendous power in Washington: Citigroup.

Mr. President, in recent years, many Wall Street institutions have exerted extraordinary influence in Washington's corridors of power, but Citigroup has risen above the others. Its grip over economic policymaking in the executive branch is unprecedented. Consider a few examples:

Three of the last four Treasury Secretaries under Democratic presidents have had close Citigroup ties. The fourth was offered the CEO position at Citigroup, but turned it down.

The Vice Chair of the Federal Reserve system is a Citigroup alum.

The Undersecretary for International Affairs at Treasury is a Citigroup alum.

The U.S. Trade Representative and the person nominated to be his deputy – who is currently an assistant secretary at Treasury – are Citigroup alums.

A recent chairman of the National Economic Council at the White House was a Citigroup alum.
Another recent Chairman of the Office of Management and Budget went to Citigroup immediately after leaving the White House.

Another recent Chairman of the Office of Management of Budget and Management is also a Citi alum -- but I'm double counting here because now he's the Secretary of the Treasury.

That's a lot of powerful people, all from one bank. But they aren't Citigroup's only source of power. Over the years, the company has spent millions of dollars on lobbying Congress and funding the political campaigns of its friends in the House and the Senate.

Citigroup has also spent millions trying to influence the political process in ways that are far more subtle—and hidden from public view. Last year, I wrote Citigroup and other big banks a letter asking them to disclose the amount of shareholder money they have been diverting to think tanks to influence public policy. Citigroup's response to my letter? Stonewalling. A year has gone by, and Citigroup didn't even acknowledge receiving the letter.

Citigroup has a lot of money, it spends a lot of money, and it uses that money to grow and consolidate a lot of power. And it pays off. Consider a couple facts.

Fact one: During the financial crisis, when all the support through TARP and from the FDIC and the Fed is added up, Citi received nearly half a trillion dollars in bailouts. That's half a trillion with a "t." That's almost $140 billion more than the next biggest bank got.

Fact two: During Dodd-Frank, there was an amendment introduced by my colleague Senator Brown and Senator Kaufman that would have broken up Citigroup and the nation's other largest banks. That amendment had bipartisan support, and it might have passed, but it ran into powerful opposition from an alliance between Wall Streeters on Wall Street and Wall Streeters who held powerful government jobs. They teamed up and blocked the move to break up the banks—and now Citi is bigger than ever.

The role that senior officials working in the Treasury department played in killing the amendment was not subtle: A senior Treasury official acknowledged it at the time in a background interview with New York Magazine. The official from Treasury said, and I'm quoting here, "If we'd been for it, it probably would have happened. But we weren't, so it didn't." That's power.

Mr. President, Democrats don't like Wall Street bailouts. Republicans don't like Wall Street bailouts. The American people are disgusted by Wall Street bailouts. And yet here we are -- five years after Dodd-Frank – with Congress on the verge of ramming through a provision that would do nothing for middle class, do nothing for community banks – do nothing but raise the risk that taxpayers will have to bail out the biggest banks once again.

There's a lot of talk lately about how the Dodd-Frank Act isn't perfect. There's a lot of talk coming from Citigroup about how the Dodd-Frank Act isn't perfect.

So let me say this to anyone who is listening at Citi: I agree with you. Dodd-Frank isn't perfect.
It should have broken you into pieces.

If this Congress is going to open up Dodd-Frank in the months ahead, let's open it up to get tougher—not to create more bailout opportunities .

If we are going to open up Dodd-Frank, let's open it up so that, once and for all, we end Too Big to Fail. And I mean let's really end it – not just say we did.

Instead of passing laws that create new bailout opportunities for Too-Big-To-Fail banks, let's pass Brown-Kaufman. Let's pass the bipartisan 21st Century Glass-Steagall Act – a bill I've sponsored with John McCain, Angus King, and Maria Cantwell. Let's pass something – anything – that would help break up these giant banks.

A century ago, Teddy Roosevelt was America's trustbuster. He went after the giant trusts and monopolies in this country, and a lot of people talk about how those trusts deserved to be broken up because they had too much economic power. But Teddy Roosevelt said we should break them up because they had too much political power. Teddy Roosevelt said break them up because all that concentrated power threatened the very foundations of our democratic system.

And now we're watching as Congress passes yet another provision that was written by lobbyists for the biggest recipient of bailout money in the history of the country. And it's attached to a bill that needs to pass or else the entire federal government will grind to a halt.

Think about this kind of power. A financial institution has become so big and so powerful that it can hold the entire country hostage. That alone is a reason enough for us break them up. Enough is enough.

Enough is enough with Wall Street insiders getting key position after key position and the kind of cronyism we have seen in the executive branch. Enough is enough with Citigroup passing 11th hour deregulatory provisions that nobody takes ownership over but that everybody comes to regret. Enough is enough.

Washington already works really well for the billionaires and big corporations and the lawyers and lobbyists. But what about the families who lost their homes or their jobs or their retirement savings the last time Citi bet big on derivatives and lost? What about the families who are living paycheck to paycheck and saw their tax dollars go to bail Citi out just six years ago? We were sent here to fight for those families, and it's time – it's past time – for Washington to start working for them.
All of life is a process of testing and initiation, always preparing for a higher level of consciousness -- and illumination. -- John Horn

Exterminator

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

Libby,

Regarding Elizabeth Warren and her 'Enough is enough' letter, I think she makes some valid points, even though I KNOW she is about as liberal as one can be.  She is a passionate liberal...but she is a Harvard Professor, and LORD KNOWS we don't need another one of those... ;) ;D
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Bo D

Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 18, 2014, 10:20:36 AM
Libby,

Regarding Elizabeth Warren and her 'Enough is enough' letter, I think she makes some valid points, even though I KNOW she is about as liberal as one can be.  She is a passionate liberal...but she is a Harvard Professor, and LORD KNOWS we don't need another one of those... ;) ;D

Yeah ... we need more beer-drinking, drunken rednecks!  :rolleyes:
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Henry Hawk

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

libby

Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 18, 2014, 10:20:36 AM
Libby,

Regarding Elizabeth Warren and her 'Enough is enough' letter, I think she makes some valid points, even though I KNOW she is about as liberal as one can be.  She is a passionate liberal...but she is a Harvard Professor, and LORD KNOWS we don't need another one of those... ;) ;D
Hank, I am waiting for a call about a new stove delivery and can't spend a lot of time here right now, but want you to know I understand how intimidating someone like Warren -- her background, intellect, education, ability to think and express herself -- can be. Add to that, she's a Cancer woman (born on June 22)!   :sneaky:





All of life is a process of testing and initiation, always preparing for a higher level of consciousness -- and illumination. -- John Horn

Henry Hawk

Quote from: libby on December 18, 2014, 11:18:41 AM
  Hank, I am waiting for a call about a new stove delivery and can't spend a lot of time here right now, but want you to know I understand how intimidating someone like Warren -- her background, intellect, education, ability to think and express herself -- can be. Add to that, she's a Cancer woman (born on June 22)!   :sneaky:
I think she has manage to obtain an enormous amount of clout in her short time that she has been in Washington....I think she could blow Hillary out of the water if she decides to run.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

me

Quote from: Bo D on December 18, 2014, 10:53:44 AM
Yeah ... we need more beer-drinking, drunken rednecks!  :rolleyes:
Yes, Obama drinks beer but I wouldn't say the white side of him is a redneck.  If you don't know what I'm referring to then you aren't paying attention and have no memory.
Trump 2020

Locutus

Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 18, 2014, 11:48:50 AM
I think she has manage to obtain an enormous amount of clout in her short time that she has been in Washington....I think she could blow Hillary out of the water if she decides to run.

I think she's stated pretty emphatically that she isn't going to run. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Locutus on December 18, 2014, 02:31:54 PM
I think she's stated pretty emphatically that she isn't going to run. 

Yeah, they all say that.....my honest opinion is, she should wait till 2020....she would have a little more time to gain some experience and chair a few positions....but, she IS more politically attractive than Hillary....by FAR.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Locutus

One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Locutus

LMAO!!  This is pretty funny right here.  Seems that some in his own party aren't too excited about ole' Jeb setting his sights on the White House. 

"Allow me to unite America's left, right and center in just three words: No, Jeb, No. -- Michelle Malkin   ;D

One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson