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The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 04, 2014, 07:59:17 AM
Quit watching MSNBC....they are diluting your brain with misinformation.   :yes:

  Why don't you stop watching Fox News, they have fried your brain.   :repub:  Henry, what would you do if this was your son.  :doh:  Your son who went off the deep end and did something stupid.  After being a prisoner of the Taliban for 5 years, you would want his head and put in prison again. :doh:  Maybe he could have committed suicide like some many of our soldiers, like so many of our troops who are brain damaged from George W. Bush's wars.   :rant:

  Nobody and may I repeat, NOBODY knows what happened, you sure don't. :flap:  :flap:  I know he was the last prisoner of war of George W's wars and needs to come home.  These 5 so called terrorist would have been released anyway, just like they did after WW2, WW1, Korea, Vietnam and the war between the states.  Your boy is in the army and who knows where he might be someday.    :mad: :rant:   

  And guess who's raising hell about it.  Why it's the Republicans :repub: the party of war.  :zoners:  God bless George W. Bush :cowboy: and Prick Cheney. :hunt:   :liar2:

Bo D

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 04, 2014, 07:59:17 AM
Quit watching MSNBC....they are diluting your brain with misinformation.   :yes:

And Fox is telling you the truth? We all know where you got the question you posed in another thread - "Also, is this infringing upon "Negotiating with terrorists?"

We didn't negotiate with the Al-Qaeda.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Purplelady1040

First of all, we need to know why he did what he did and went AWOL before being captured. He needs to be debriefed and found out what made him go AWOL.  Second,  while captured was he brainwashed. I hate to say this but U.S. should not be negotiating with terrorists, period!

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Bo D on June 04, 2014, 09:00:22 AM
And Fox is telling you the truth? We all know where you got the question you posed in another thread - "Also, is this infringing upon "Negotiating with terrorists?"

We didn't negotiate with the Al-Qaeda.

Where did I imply I was watching Fox.  I haven't.  I rarely watch foxnews.  Believe it or not.  I don't have time to watch it at home, I spend most of my time with my kids or working around the house.  ,All the info I got has been from WIBC a local radio in Indy, that I listen to at work (sometimes).  All I know is, we let five "terrorists" go free, in exchange for our soldier.  That is a fact.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
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The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 04, 2014, 10:46:08 AM
Where did I imply I was watching Fox.  I haven't.  I rarely watch foxnews.  Believe it or not.  I don't have time to watch it at home, I spend most of my time with my kids or working around the house.  ,All the info I got has been from WIBC a local radio in Indy, that I listen to at work (sometimes).  All I know is, we let five "terrorists" go free, in exchange for our soldier.  That is a fact.

  If you haven't been watching Fox News, then you are one of the many people who get the Republican talking points every morning.   :yes:  Everything that comes out of your mouth is a direct quote from the Republican  Talking Points.   :rant:

  These 5 men were freedom fighters for the Taliban and were fighting against the American invasion.   :yes:  Would you fight against someone who invaded us.  :chick:  If you did fight and lost the war, you would be considered a terrorist.    :yes:  Get over yourself Bunky.   :rolleyes:

The Troll

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on June 04, 2014, 10:43:19 AM
First of all, we need to know why he did what he did and went AWOL before being captured. He needs to be debriefed and found out what made him go AWOL.  Second,  while captured was he brainwashed. I hate to say this but U.S. should not be negotiating with terrorists, period!

  I really hate to say this, YOU'RE WRONG AGAIN.  We Americans don't leave any solider behind, NOBODY, PERIOD!

Purplelady1040

Quote from: The Troll on June 04, 2014, 11:13:26 AM
  I really hate to say this, YOU'RE WRONG AGAIN.  We Americans don't leave any solider behind, NOBODY, PERIOD!
We may not leave soldiers behind but we don't negotiate with terrorist ever.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: The Troll on June 04, 2014, 11:09:35 AM
These 5 men were freedom fighters for the Taliban and were fighting against the American invasion.   :yes:  Would you fight against someone who invaded us.

Troll, though I have made serious efforts to not become engaged in worthless discussions with you, I am taking exception on this one.

These guys are NOT "freedom fighters".   Some of them are vicious killers, who have killed 1,000's of shiites, they are wanted by the UN because of war crimes.  According the Department of Defense, they are listed as a "HIGH risk, and are likely to pose a threat to the US, its interests and allies."

They have been associated with members of al-Qaida, Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan, Libyan Islamic Fighting Group, and the Hezb-E-
Islami Gulbuddin.

Khair Ulla Said Wali has been identified as one of the major opium drug lords in Western Afghanistan.  He also represented the Taliban and attended meetings between Taliban and Iranian officials to seek support of hostilities against the US and Coalition forces.

So, Troll, quit biting on the sound bites the MSNBC is feeding YOU! 

Even Democrat, Feinstein said. "We are giving up people who killed a lot of people, people who were head of major efforts of the Taliban."


The problem we NOW face is that die-hard dems like you will refuse to call out something wrong, when it is obvious.


All the info I just gave is in the links below from the DOD.


Mohammad A Fazl 

Mullah-Norullah Nori

Mohammed Nabi

Khair Ulla Said Wali Khairkhwa

Abdul Haq Wasiq


"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on June 04, 2014, 10:43:19 AM
First of all, we need to know why he did what he did and went AWOL before being captured. He needs to be debriefed and found out what made him go AWOL.  Second,  while captured was he brainwashed. I hate to say this but U.S. should not be negotiating with terrorists, period!

I believe you meant to say, "whether", not why, he did what he is alleged to have done?

In any case, negotiating for the release of American POW's has a long and storied history; and by todays definition of the the term terrorists, the Japanese and Germans would have met that definition during WWI and II. . .

The reality is that without these negotiations most, if not all, of this countries POW's in every war, would have died in captivity.

The thing people forget to do, each and every time one of these exchanges takes place, is ask yourself; How would you feel if it were your son or daughter?

The reality is, every last one of them are our sons and daughters.  :yes:
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Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 04, 2014, 10:46:08 AM
. . . All I know is, we let five "terrorists" go free, in exchange for our soldier.  That is a fact.

And what exactly would be a "fair" exchange rate for one American soldiers life?

The way I see it 5 to 1 places a fairly high value upon the life of a US Soldier.

What would the value be to you if it were your son or daughter?

We have allowed this man, and many other men and women. to rot in captivity for 5 years. How much is that worth?

POW's need to be a priority in any conflict. They are trained to escape if at all possible, and that so few of them do speaks volumes surrounding the conditions they are being held within. (And not well either).
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

The Troll

Quote from: Palehorse on June 04, 2014, 06:04:25 PM
And what exactly would be a "fair" exchange rate for one American soldiers life?

The way I see it 5 to 1 places a fairly high value upon the life of a US Soldier.

What would the value be to you if it were your son or daughter?

We have allowed this man, and many other men and women. to rot in captivity for 5 years. How much is that worth?

POW's need to be a priority in any conflict. They are trained to escape if at all possible, and that so few of them do speaks volumes surrounding the conditions they are being held within. (And not well either).


   :piano:  PALEHORSE we are singing from the same sheet of music.  :music1: America :music1: America :music1: God shed his light on you :music1:  :4th3:  :thumbsup:

Purplelady1040

Quote from: Palehorse on June 04, 2014, 05:58:41 PM
I believe you meant to say, "whether", not why, he did what he is alleged to have done?

In any case, negotiating for the release of American POW's has a long and storied history; and by todays definition of the the term terrorists, the Japanese and Germans would have met that definition during WWI and II. . .

The reality is that without these negotiations most, if not all, of this countries POW's in every war, would have died in captivity.

The thing people forget to do, each and every time one of these exchanges takes place, is ask yourself; How would you feel if it were your son or daughter?

The reality is, every last one of them are our sons and daughters.  :yes:
Yes, whether he did go AWOL but it was always my understanding that U.S. has never negotiated with terrorists.  I am sure once he is debriefed and thoroughly investigated that we will find out more. Hopefully, the news is making a lot of this on his supposedly going AWOL but I don't agree with the 5 terrorists being given.

libby

Quote from: Palehorse on June 04, 2014, 06:04:25 PM
And what exactly would be a "fair" exchange rate for one American soldiers life?

The way I see it 5 to 1 places a fairly high value upon the life of a US Soldier.

What would the value be to you if it were your son or daughter?

We have allowed this man, and many other men and women. to rot in captivity for 5 years. How much is that worth?

POW's need to be a priority in any conflict. They are trained to escape if at all possible, and that so few of them do speaks volumes surrounding the conditions they are being held within. (And not well either).
Well said, Palehorse.   :yes:
All of life is a process of testing and initiation, always preparing for a higher level of consciousness -- and illumination. -- John Horn

me

I take it you have not heard what the men from his unit have said about what went on.
Trump 2020

Purplelady1040

Quote from: me on June 05, 2014, 06:53:11 AM
I take it you have not heard what the men from his unit have said about what went on.
What have they said? I heard that they were commenting but haven't found where.