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Republican Party, Teabag Party and the Libertarian Party absolutely SUCK!

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Exterminator

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on October 18, 2012, 01:37:57 PM
Did you really think that through before you posted it because you essentially proved Locutus' point.

I'm just telling you like it is.  Go back and read about it.  Rick Santelli had a melt down regarding the Wall Street bailouts, and the Auto bailouts and the Bank bailouts......and screamed we need to have a tea party, and challanged everyone to rally and bitch about government spending and bailouts.

boom

the tea party is born.

Now, there are racist involve with it, just as much as there were racist involved with many who voted for obama, JUST because he was black.....many liberals thought it would be NEAT to elect our first black POTUS, even if he IS or IS not qualified to do the job.

Ex, I am here to tell you, I would GLADLY vote for a black man, a lesbian, a black lesbian, bozo the clown IF he/she a "few" of the basic conservative values.  Skin color has zero impact on how I vote.  I say that with 100% conviction directly from my heart.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on October 18, 2012, 03:52:34 PM
But racism is a conservative value.
and I would say there are more racist who vote democrat, any day of the week.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 18, 2012, 04:17:13 PM
and I would say there are more racist who vote democrat, any day of the week.

That could be true but I don't here many folks referring to Romney as a cracker.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

Trump 2020

The Troll

Quote from: Exterminator on October 18, 2012, 01:37:57 PM
Did you really think that through before you posted it because you essentially proved Locutus' point.


   AAAAH!  The Tea Party, what a wonderful group of Republican old farts, malcontents and misfits.  Would someone please tell me what group of people did you ever see people carrying pistols, revolvers, Colt 45's and assault weapons at a political pubic meeting?  The first time I seen it, it was at a Tea Party rally.  :rant:

  Where did you see such racist signs with Obama with a bone in his nose?  Obama picture painted up like the Joker with Nazi Swazi's on it.  The first time I seen it was at a Tea Party rally.  Old Shell Back :me: wants us to see a story about the Ku Klux Klan.

  The Tea Party is new Ku Klux Klan, the new KKK.  Racist to the bone, full of hate and full of shit.  When on TV they showed a close of some of the sign carriers they all looked retarded and victims of interbreeding, brothers marrying sisters and first cousins marrying first cousins.  Good old red neck hillbilly Republican.  :trustme:  America has seen and felt the damage of the Tea Party congressmen sent to Washington DC.  They play with their dicks and vote NO!   :@#%&: Republicans.  :puke:    :sa:

Locutus

Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 18, 2012, 01:32:58 PM
I was going to stay out this, but the tea party started with a Rick Santelli RANT on TV about the bailouts and wasteful spending.  He challanged people to rally over it, and they did, and it grew. Had NOTHING what-so-ever ANYTHING to do with race.  It was right after Obama took office...in feb of 2009.

I rest my case.  Thank you for doing an exemplary job of proving my point.
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

The Troll

Quote from: Locutus on October 18, 2012, 08:21:15 PM
I rest my case.  Thank you for doing an exemplary job of proving my point.


  :haha:  :haha:   :haha:   You sure powder cry baby Hawk's butt. :cry: :chick: :cry:  The Tea Party started at the same time as Obama became President.  :doh:  Give me a break.   :rolleyes:

Palehorse

Those tea-billies are the very same group I used to call the "sky is falling" jack-wagons before they unionized.  :icon_twisted:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

The Troll

Quote from: Palehorse on October 19, 2012, 12:02:49 AM
Those tea-billies are the very same group I used to call the "sky is falling" jack-wagons before they unionized.  :icon_twisted:

  Unionized?  Those people are big yellow SCABS.   :rant:

Palehorse

Quote from: The Troll on October 19, 2012, 09:19:24 AM
  Unionized?  Those people are big yellow SCABS.   :rant:

union |ˈyo͞onyən|
noun
1 the action or fact of joining or being joined, esp. in a political context:

Troll, you're nothing but predictable. Using the word "union" in any way shape or form is guaranteed to elicit a reaction from you; just like laying a rancid piece of chicken liver out in front of a surly old catfish!                 :swim: :fish: :rotfl:

Yeah, you feel the hook now don't you?  :angel:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

The Troll

Quote from: Palehorse on October 19, 2012, 11:56:36 AM
union |ˈyo͞onyən|
noun
1 the action or fact of joining or being joined, esp. in a political context:

Troll, you're nothing but predictable. Using the word "union" in any way shape or form is guaranteed to elicit a reaction from you; just like laying a rancid piece of chicken liver out in front of a surly old catfish!                 :swim: :fish: :rotfl:

Yeah, you feel the hook now don't you?  :angel:

  Yeep, you got me hooked.  But I'm here on the bottom of the river in an old junk car and when you start to reel in I'm going to roll up the window.  How about that Reel Boy.  :haha: 

   Damn that liver was good, ripe and tender it was just falling off the hook. :suck:   :eat:

Exterminator

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 11, 2012, 12:44:17 PM
Olias,
May I ask you an honest question.  Do you consider the poster PH posted a lie?

The following is a list of all the clean energy companies supported by President Obama's stimulus that are now failing or have filed for bankruptcy...

Solyndra of course, then there are these:
Evergreen
http://bostonherald.com/business/technology/general/view/2011_0815evergreen_solar_files_for_bankruptcy_plans_asset_sale

SpectraWatt
http://www.pv-magazine.com/news/details/beitrag/spectrawatt-files-for-bankruptcy-just-months-after-laying-off-workers_100003997/#axzz290R3dtut

Beacon Power
http://news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-20128637-54/beacon-power-were-broke-but-were-no-solyndra/

AES' subsidary Eastern Energy
http://www.energyboom.com/finance/aes-corp-subsidiary-files-chapter-11-bankruptcy-protection

Nevada Geothermal
http://www.macroaxis.com/invest/alphaSearch/NGP.V

SunPower
http://calcoastnews.com/2011/11/sunpower-reports-huge-loss/

First Solar
http://www.forbes.com/sites/uciliawang/2012/04/18/how-first-solar-struggles-amid-decline-of-thin-film-solar-market/


Babcock & Brown
http://www.costar.com/News/Article/Babcock-Browns-Troubles-Down-Under-Hit-US-Apt-Market/111114


Ener1 (subsidiary of EnerDel)
http://reason.com/blog/2012/01/26/ener1-goes-bankrupt-becomes-second-or-th

Amonix
http://www.scpr.org/blogs/economy/2012/07/19/9065/amonix-more-woes-government-supported-solar-startu/


The National Renewable Energy Lab
http://nlpc.org/stories/2012/10/10/doe-hiding-truth-about-bankrupt-abound-solars-defective-panels


Solar Trust of America
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/02/us-solartrust-bankruptcy-idUSBRE8310ZV20120402


A123 Systems
http://seekingalpha.com/article/665201-a123-system-s-new-battery-won-t-stave-off-bankruptcy


Willard & Kelsey Solar Group
http://madisonproject.com/2012/04/another-failed-solar-company/

If so, should it be posted in the TUZ liars area?






In addition to Olias's more than amble response, I'll add this:


First Solar

It's true that First Solar secured federal loan guarantees of more than $3 billion for three major solar projects. (And got them after spending $2.2 million on Washington lobbying since 2007.) After arranging and negotiating financing options, all three projects were promptly sold, to NextEra Energy, NRG Energy and Exelon. So First Solar no longer owns the DOE loan guarantees (though it is building the plants for those companies — so much of the federally guaranteed loan money is certainly flowing its way).
Ted Meyer, a spokesman for First Solar, said that despite the ad's implication that First Solar was another Solyndra deal, the structure of the loans is very different. The loans for the projects are backed by long-term contracts from major energy companies in California to purchase the power generated by the solar plants.
It's true that First Solar is cutting jobs, but most of them have been overseas.
Associated Press report, April 17, 2012: First Solar Inc. will lay off 2,000 workers and close its factory in Germany following a collapse in solar panel prices that has erased the industry's profits and forced some smaller companies into bankruptcy. America's biggest solar manufacturer said the layoffs amount to 30 percent of its global workforce.
... First Solar will also shutter some production in Malaysia. It plans additional job cuts in Europe and the U.S.
... The price of solar panels, which generate electricity from sunlight, has plummeted recently. An influx of Chinese competitors has led to a rapid buildup in supply. At the same time governments in Europe, the biggest market for solar power, are reducing generous subsidy programs that had fueled demand.
According to Meyer, more than 90 percent of the staff reductions from the April restructuring of the company were outside the U.S. Those layoffs are wholly unrelated to the three projects funded by DOE, Meyer said. Those three solar projects will employ about 1,200 people during the three-year construction phase, Meyer said, and about 12 people per site permanently.
As for U.S. jobs, Greentech Media reported First Solar furloughed 120 of its 240 employees at its DOE-backed Antelope Valley solar project in California. But contrary to a Fox News report that originally ran under the headline "Obama-Funded Solar Firm Lays Off Half Its Workforce" (it was later changed), that's just one project First Solar is working on. It is unrelated to the company restructuring, Meyer said, and is due to an unresolved code issue with the county. Once that issue is resolved, he said, First Solar plans to expand construction there again.
As for First Solar stock being "near all-time lows," it's true that the price is lower than it has been in more than six years. The crude graphic in the ad seems to suggest the stock has dropped to $4 per share, but that's not accurate. It was trading at $13.40 on May 30, but that is still down precipitously from its high of $311.14 in May 2008.
Meyer released this company statement about the ad: "It's surprising a candidate that claims to support U.S. economic growth would criticize a great American success story like First Solar. First Solar has proven that an American company can compete and win in renewable energy globally, and our success supports almost 10,000 American jobs, more than $1 billion in U.S. purchasing, tens of millions of dollars in exports, and record-setting innovation that reduces pollution and enhances U.S. energy security."
SunPower
On Sept. 30, 2011,  SunPower got a $1.2 billion loan guarantee to build the California Valley Solar Ranch Project, a 250-megawatt solar plant in San Luis Obispo County, Calif. And SunPower reported an operating loss of $534 million last year. But after that, the ad's case starts to fall apart.
Before any federal funds were released, SunPower sold the project to NRG Energy. So NRG is the owner of the loan guarantees and the company responsible for repaying them. SunPower is now the lead contractor on the project.
Despite its losses, SunPower is financially solvent, and– as the same KGO-TV report cited in the Romney ad notes — the company's new majority stockholder is Total, "a French company that ranks among the top oil and energy companies in the world."
As for SunPower layoffs, according to a public filing with the SEC last November, the company did announce that it would be laying off 85 employees. But as was the case with First Solar, most of those layoffs were overseas, and represented a small fraction of the company's global workforce. In its public filing, the company stated that it was consolidating or closing facilities in Europe "in response to reductions in European government incentives, primarily in Italy, which have had a significant impact on the global solar market." The number of layoffs ended up being less, a company spokeswoman told us, and together with newly created jobs, the net reduction was 41 jobs.
More important, the jobs related to the DOE-backed California Valley Solar Ranch are unaffected. According to SunPower, more than 350 workers are currently constructing the solar power plant. The plant, company officials said, will begin generating 25 megawatts of power by September, and when completed will generate enough electricity to power 100,000 California homes (and is already contracted to do so).
According to Bloomberg News, even with the losses from Solyndra, the default rate for the DOE's loans to solar, wind and bio-energy projects is less than 3.6 percent, less than a third of what the White House anticipated. So Romney is using the same "lemon-picking" strategies that critics of his Bain years use — choosing a few sour specifics to give a misleading picture of the larger reality. And he's straining facts and misquoting a leading investigator as well.

http://www.factcheck.org/2012/06/romneys-solar-flareout/

Now, who is the liar?  :rolleyes:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville