Republican Party, Teabag Party and the Libertarian Party absolutely SUCK!

[Henry Hawk]

It would be so refreshing to have a glimer of hope that they intend to move forward.

If moving forward to you means "spending" more money on entitlement programs, then there will be more stalling going on....the repubs have orders by the American voters, to "stop spending" ....period.

[Palehorse]

 

Congress was "controlled" by the very same jackasses who got us here; republicans. The party of no with their historic levels of stalling and cloture tactics will continue to implement their game plan; drive the country to the brink of extinction and blame it all on the democrat. . .

It doesn't ever change and it never will until this country disappears from the face of the earth.

[The Troll]

If moving forward to you means "spending" more money on entitlement programs, then there will be more stalling going on....the repubs have orders by the American voters, to "stop spending" ....period.

  OK Cost Cutter Hawk, you are now the leader of the Republican Party and you have stopped all of the entitlement programs and the pain and heartless that comes with that.  Your have cut the size of government.

   WHAT IS NEXT, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PUT AMERICA BACK TO WORK.  How are you going to rebuild America.  Tell me Hawk are you going to let the predatory capitalist take over totally and control America.  You seem to want to give the super rich everything.  Come on give us some ideas.  All we get out of you is cut taxes.  Cut taxes, cut taxes, cut taxes, cut taxes and oh yes stop spending.  I waiting Hawk.       

[Henry Hawk]

  OK Cost Cutter Hawk, you are now the leader of the Republican Party and you have stopped all of the entitlement programs and the pain and heartless that comes with that.  Your have cut the size of government.

   WHAT IS NEXT, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO PUT AMERICA BACK TO WORK.  How are you going to rebuild America.  Tell me Hawk are you going to let the predatory capitalist take over totally and control America.  You seem to want to give the super rich everything.  Come on give us some ideas.  All we get out of you is cut taxes.  Cut taxes, cut taxes, cut taxes, cut taxes and oh yes stop spending.  I waiting Hawk.       

Troll, I have posted several ideas that the conservatives feel that need to be imposed to regain our posture as a great nation, but you have a blind eye and see only what you want to see.  Like I have said and continue to say, time is going to tell us the whole truth, like it already has. 

Palehorse, I never claimed that the past republicans has not contributed to this mess.  Lord know they ALL have.  I only wish some on here couold see that. 

I will stick to my guns as I have from my beginning on here, and say that the Conservative values, such as smaller gov, lower taxes, stronger military are key to restoring this nation.

[The Troll]

Troll, I have posted several ideas that the conservatives feel that need to be imposed to regain our posture as a great nation, but you have a blind eye and see only what you want to see.  Like I have said and continue to say, time is going to tell us the whole truth, like it already has. 

Palehorse, I never claimed that the past republicans has not contributed to this mess.  Lord know they ALL have.  I only wish some on here couold see that. 

I will stick to my guns as I have from my beginning on here, and say that the Conservative values, such as smaller gov, lower taxes, stronger military are key to restoring this nation.

  Henry, Colonel Blow Horn, name on of the first thing you would do.  I want you to give me five thing you would do to get this country going and out the Republican gutter.

  Under your style, nobody would pay taxes.  So therefor there would be no money to even have a strong military.  No money to pay down the debt.  Tell me Col. Blow Horn where is the money going to come from to keep up our cities, towns, states and our country. 

  Under your style private business is going to own everything.  Roads, bridges, city buildings, their going to own everything and we are going to have to pay them to use them so they can make a tax free profit on them.  Your small government will not be large enough to keep the large corporations for stealing and robbing the American citizens.  It doesn't seem now that the government isn't strong enough to stop them with all of the help from the Republican Party and their law making.

  So what is the platform of the Blow Horn Party, to get America going again.  This time no bullshit.  One more time, nobody pays taxes and the government spends no money.  Do I have that right Colonel Blow Horn. 

  Come on Colonel Blow Horn PUT UP OF SHUT UP.

[Henry Hawk]

Okay big guy, you will not like what I got to say, but here it is....and this WILL work....

I would cut our federal spending by 20 percent.....the less money that our federal government has to borrow, the more money will be available for private investment and private loans.

I would put an end to earmarks and pork barrel spending...NONE, ZILCH, NADDA.... we have spent billions of dollars have been slipped into appropriations bills that have nothing to do with the bill itself, but making some politicians happy and keeping their jobs....we could save BILLIONS right of the bat.....

I would NOT allow no more bailouts, and  no more government takeovers of manufacturers, banks, or insurance companies, that is NOT the job of our government....IF, a company fails, they fail, it could not hurt us anymore than what we are going through now, AND if given the opportunity, the PRIVATE industry would step in on these failing companies and restore them back to a profitable business.

I also think you are being a moron, when you claim that republicans want no one to pay taxes....but I would lower business income tax rates to 15 percent...quit punishing them for producing jobs and goods HERE in the United States.....

I WOULD however raise taxes on imports from other countries to offset and pay for the lost goods that we are losing out to them.

and I know that this will really get your ass, but do everything I could to cease the Unions....one way would be to pass a federal "Right to Work" law....this would guarantee our Constitutional Right to "Freedom of Association", so people are not forced into joining unions so they can get a job....then this would entice companies to come back to the United States that left because it WAS costing them around $85 per hour for its workers, and would put us around $48 per hour such as the Honda plants in America...which is NOT a bad salary, especially to those 20 million that are currently unemployed....did you notice that back in the 50's before the Unions became too strong we was producing most of the worlds "goods", then AFTER the Unions became TOO powerful, ... well here we are.  Troll, the way YOU want it, these rich guys are STILL getting rich, just now they are getting rich off of other countries money, and THAT is another reason why our dollar is so weak today...

the one and ONLY way we will EVER bring back manufacturing jobs to the United States is if we lower the labor costs, so that we will buy AMERICAN.  The Unions will NEVER allow that to happen...and again THAT is why we are where we are right now....

and lastly, after revenue started to generate, I would increase our spending on the military, and assure the world that we truly are the biggest, most sophisticated power house in the world, and reinstate the slogan, "Peace through Strength"....

let it go on record that THIS ol blow horn, HAS instituted a platform to get America going AGAIN!!

THIS IS NO BULLSHIT, TROLL....NOW WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU PROPOSING?

MORE FEDERAL SPENDING, LET THE UNIONS GET BIGGER AND BIGGER, FOR ALL OF THESE JOBS YOU ARE GOING TO CREATE BY SPENDING TRILLIONS OF TAX PAYING $$$

c'mon let's here it blow whole....

[The Troll]

Okay big guy, you will not like what I got to say, but here it is....and this WILL work....

I would cut our federal spending by 20 percent.....the less money that our federal government has to borrow, the more money will be available for private investment and private loans.

I would put an end to earmarks and pork barrel spending...NONE, ZILCH, NADDA.... we have spent billions of dollars have been slipped into appropriations bills that have nothing to do with the bill itself, but making some politicians happy and keeping their jobs....we could save BILLIONS right of the bat.....

I would NOT allow no more bailouts, and  no more government takeovers of manufacturers, banks, or insurance companies, that is NOT the job of our government....IF, a company fails, they fail, it could not hurt us anymore than what we are going through now, AND if given the opportunity, the PRIVATE industry would step in on these failing companies and restore them back to a profitable business.

I also think you are being a moron, when you claim that republicans want no one to pay taxes....but I would lower business income tax rates to 15 percent...quit punishing them for producing jobs and goods HERE in the United States.....

I WOULD however raise taxes on imports from other countries to offset and pay for the lost goods that we are losing out to them.

and I know that this will really get your ass, but do everything I could to cease the Unions....one way would be to pass a federal "Right to Work" law....this would guarantee our Constitutional Right to "Freedom of Association", so people are not forced into joining unions so they can get a job....then this would entice companies to come back to the United States that left because it WAS costing them around $85 per hour for its workers, and would put us around $48 per hour such as the Honda plants in America...which is NOT a bad salary, especially to those 20 million that are currently unemployed....did you notice that back in the 50's before the Unions became too strong we was producing most of the worlds "goods", then AFTER the Unions became TOO powerful, ... well here we are.  Troll, the way YOU want it, these rich guys are STILL getting rich, just now they are getting rich off of other countries money, and THAT is another reason why our dollar is so weak today...

the one and ONLY way we will EVER bring back manufacturing jobs to the United States is if we lower the labor costs, so that we will buy AMERICAN.  The Unions will NEVER allow that to happen...and again THAT is why we are where we are right now....

and lastly, after revenue started to generate, I would increase our spending on the military, and assure the world that we truly are the biggest, most sophisticated power house in the world, and reinstate the slogan, "Peace through Strength"....

let it go on record that THIS ol blow horn, HAS instituted a platform to get America going AGAIN!!

THIS IS NO BULLSHIT, TROLL....NOW WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU PROPOSING?

MORE FEDERAL SPENDING, LET THE UNIONS GET BIGGER AND BIGGER, FOR ALL OF THESE JOBS YOU ARE GOING TO CREATE BY SPENDING TRILLIONS OF TAX PAYING $$$

c'mon let's here it blow whole....

  Dear Colonel Blow Horn, you didn't suprise me in any way.  I already knew you were a SCAB!  I already knew you were didn't for uneducated blue collar worker.  Your daddy a union man and you a SCAB.  That is one of the reason I dislike you so much.  Your greedy, self centered and a moron when it come to economics.  I honestly think you would knife your dad and mom to be come one of the super rich.  Your already a predatory capitalist.

  For a no tax man, you want to tax everybody in the country with a import tax.  You want all of the  working blue collar middle class to take a wage cut to equal foreign wages.  Does that include second rate electrical engineer in a second rate company in Indianapolis, who hasn't had a raise in two years.  How much do they pay electrical engineers in India.  I like to see you start making that.  Big Shot.

Another thing SCAB, we already have companies who make war products working 24 hours a day now, you want to give them more.  Their not going to hire more people.

  Your scabby ideas still have not created one job, but they have cut jobs.  As bad a earmarks are they do create jobs.

  For companies to hire people they have to have orders, that the way you business works, isn't it.  NOBODY HAS ANY MONEY, all of the money we did have is in China, India, Japan and many, many other foreign countries building up their countries.

  OK now let see you come up with some ideas that will make jobs.  You haven't come up with one, not one.

[Henry Hawk]

Nope, YOUR turn to put up or STFU.....seriously....where are all of the jobs than Nancy Pelosi promised?

Where are those shovel ready jobs that Obama promise when we spent nearly a trillion dollar two years ago?

what ideas do you have...?

I gave you real answers to solve real problems....my own Dad, agrees with me, that the Unions went TOO far....they screwed American dude....look at detroit, look at every city in America that was dependent on the UAW.....they got screwed.  they got greedy....wanting a skilled pay for a non-skilled job....they screwed management every chance they got, they could not get fired, and they took advantage of that....they kept asking for more and more and more and the owners said....enough!!!!

blame everyone else, that is typical for liberals.....you cannot accept responsibility for your own actions....you want the gov to come to your rescue, instead of bucking up and taking care of yourself....

and no dickhead, I don't want to tax americans with the import tax, I want to tax those countries who are bringing crap in here, like China....I want their cheap shit to get taxed....they tax the crap out of our stuff, so all I am saying is, let's fair it up some....

NO, I am not getting paid as much as UAW workers did...but I am extremely happy to have my job, and very grateful to my owner, for NOT laying off folks through these hard times.....

the bottom line is ..... you just don't get it!!! that is it, plain and simple.......those days of Unions, f'ing over the entrepreneurs of this nation, to get paid for not doing an honest days work are over!!  at least I hope so....

Why is it Honda can pay folks a decent pay, without a union?.... we need more of that by our OWN automakers, right here in the states....$48 an hour is pretty damn decent, but NO....you guys want $85 an hour....(with all the benefits) which is why we NOW have a healthcare issue.....look at all of those retired UAW workers going to the Doc every time they get a fart stuck.....f'in bullshit.....

btw, I am a blue collar worker dude....and I support those guys alot more than you do......If I have my plan go through, those guys all go back to work.....with your plan....they are STILL unemployed...and next we have inflation about to hit.....

troll, you better get your head out of your butt, because we are very close to having this country collapes, because of your greedy UAW mentality....

btw, i don't like you too much either....

with all of that said, I hope you have a wonderful night of sleep, and maybe I will discuss this further with you tomorrow.....

[The Troll]

Nope, YOUR turn to put up or STFU.....seriously....where are all of the jobs than Nancy Pelosi promised?

Where are those shovel ready jobs that Obama promise when we spent nearly a trillion dollar two years ago?

what ideas do you have...?

I gave you real answers to solve real problems....my own Dad, agrees with me, that the Unions went TOO far....they screwed American dude....look at detroit, look at every city in America that was dependent on the UAW.....they got screwed.  they got greedy....wanting a skilled pay for a non-skilled job....they screwed management every chance they got, they could not get fired, and they took advantage of that....they kept asking for more and more and more and the owners said....enough!!!!

blame everyone else, that is typical for liberals.....you cannot accept responsibility for your own actions....you want the gov to come to your rescue, instead of bucking up and taking care of yourself....

and no dickhead, I don't want to tax americans with the import tax, I want to tax those countries who are bringing crap in here, like China....I want their cheap shit to get taxed....they tax the crap out of our stuff, so all I am saying is, let's fair it up some....

NO, I am not getting paid as much as UAW workers did...but I am extremely happy to have my job, and very grateful to my owner, for NOT laying off folks through these hard times.....

the bottom line is ..... you just don't get it!!! that is it, plain and simple.......those days of Unions, f'ing over the entrepreneurs of this nation, to get paid for not doing an honest days work are over!!  at least I hope so....

Why is it Honda can pay folks a decent pay, without a union?.... we need more of that by our OWN automakers, right here in the states....$48 an hour is pretty damn decent, but NO....you guys want $85 an hour....(with all the benefits) which is why we NOW have a healthcare issue.....look at all of those retired UAW workers going to the Doc every time they get a fart stuck.....f'in bullshit.....

btw, I am a blue collar worker dude....and I support those guys alot more than you do......If I have my plan go through, those guys all go back to work.....with your plan....they are STILL unemployed...and next we have inflation about to hit.....

troll, you better get your head out of your butt, because we are very close to having this country collapes, because of your greedy UAW mentality....

btw, i don't like you too much either....

with all of that said, I hope you have a wonderful night of sleep, and maybe I will discuss this further with you tomorrow.....

  Dear Mr. Blow Horn, all you have proved to me your a SCAB!  The unions and their agreements brought about the 40 hour work week, vacations, retirement, health care employee rights and fair pay.  And you SCABS are against it.  Why would anyone be against people negotiating working conditions and  pay with the company they work for.  Really it's none of your business.  It's no skin off your ass.

  I have tried to figure you out.  With you being brought up in a UAW union family and all of the benefits that gave you and for you to be so anti-union is.  With your great college education you're stuck at a second rate company working for a single owner company.  Who if dies or decides to sell the business you out on your ass at the age of over 50 years.  Boy that sounds scary.  The fact is your are absolutely out of your mind JEALOUS of uneducated unskilled union people.  If I was going on 51 with only 14 years before I was 65 and I was you I would be scared to death.  14 years, you really don't know how quick that will go by and if you get your way there will be no Social Security, no Medicare and no drug plan.  I just know you don't have enough money in your retirement fund to live the way your living now especially if  you live to 80.  I see poverty in your future.  Enough about your poor pathetic job.  Some people call that being "STUCK" in a bad economy.

  When you can come up with some thing to create jobs here in America I'll be interested.  So far its cut spending, cut government jobs, cut taxes.  Oh yes, Nancy Pelosi, hell, she just another Senator who was elected by the people in her state and all she got is one vote.  She can't promise anything.

  I know what to do about the economy but you predatory capitalist Republican would be against it.  But you being such a DICK I don't think you know how to create jobs here in America. 

[Henry Hawk]

Dear Mr. Blow Horn, all you have proved to me your a SCAB!  The unions and their agreements brought about the 40 hour work week, vacations, retirement, health care employee rights and fair pay.  And you SCABS are against it.  Why would anyone be against people negotiating working conditions and  pay with the company they work for.  Really it's none of your business.  It's no skin off your ass.

First of all, I am going to start off with an apology for my use of language and my name calling.  I will no longer lower myself.  Troll, I have no "real" problem with you.  I think you are a fun and interesting person.  Your dislike for me is understandable, based upon your inablity to comprehend other opinions.  I'm good with that.

Now, Henry Ford was the first person to introduce the 40-hour week.  He also instituted a minumum wage. Without any organized unions, he did it because he knew how to make people productive, to produce him a profitable vehicle.
There are many places that offer ALL of those benefits that are NOT Union.  I'm not against ANY one being able to negotiate working conditions.  What I am against, paying someone $75 per hour, to not do an honest days work.  YOU know all too well that those conditions existed.  I know for a fact, my Uncle got paid to move typewriters, when ever a person was moving to another office.  His job was to un-plug it, then go back later and plug it back in, because the UNION demanded all "electrical" work to be done by and Union worker.  The company I now work for, did some low voltage wiring for a GM plant in Indy a year ago, and a Union worker walked with my technician as, my technician did all of the work, getting paid $75 per hour, because the Union 'demanded" a union worker get paid for a non-union skilled trade.
THAT is the kind of BS, that has turned my stomach against these organized thugs.  Sure at one time, they was reputable and accomplished some fair work practices.  But that is no longer the case, and it was their greed and corruption that killed Anderson and detroit and every auto industry city in America.
period.

I have tried to figure you out.  With you being brought up in a UAW union family and all of the benefits that gave you and for you to be so anti-union is.  With your great college education you're stuck at a second rate company working for a single owner company.  Who if dies or decides to sell the business you out on your ass at the age of over 50 years.  Boy that sounds scary.  The fact is your are absolutely out of your mind JEALOUS of uneducated unskilled union people.  If I was going on 51 with only 14 years before I was 65 and I was you I would be scared to death.  14 years, you really don't know how quick that will go by and if you get your way there will be no Social Security, no Medicare and no drug plan.  I just know you don't have enough money in your retirement fund to live the way your living now especially if  you live to 80.  I see poverty in your future.  Enough about your poor pathetic job.  Some people call that being "STUCK" in a bad economy.

  When you can come up with some thing to create jobs here in America I'll be interested.  So far its cut spending, cut government jobs, cut taxes.  Oh yes, Nancy Pelosi, hell, she just another Senator who was elected by the people in her state and all she got is one vote.  She can't promise anything.

  I know what to do about the economy but you predatory capitalist Republican would be against it.  But you being such a DICK I don't think you know how to create jobs here in America. 

The one thing here that I think is a arrogant stab is, where do you get off calling any company "second rate"?  I am extremely proud to work where I am at.  I will retire someday, but not with YOUR outrageous benefits....that Ford is paying through the nose to make sure every little candy-assed sniffle that you and your ilk have, able to get your teeth whitened, two or three pairs of "fancy-assed" designer prescription eye-glasses EVERY year, free this and free that.
I have a comfortable retirement plan, that my owner pays for, and I contribute to my own, when I am able too.  I AM scared to death because of this "UAW" mentality that the employers owe EVERYTHING to the employee, even IF they are not capable of putting in an honest days pay for an honest days work.
It is that simple Troll, you may have thought you deserved every penny you got, but I, along with others would argue.  I'm happy that my father, was able to live a comfortable life, because I love him, and he is a great man.  But do I think he deserved it simply because an organized labor group "threatened" and became violent to see to it?.....Nope, He would be first to tell you he was happy back in the 50's when the Union was not the powerhouse it was.  He was paid good, and treated fair.....more than his parents EVER dreamed of getting.

despite you thinking I am a Dick, I have laid out a quite extensive plan that would, without a doubt, create jobs.  It is just YOU don't particulary like what I had to say, but it is all true.

I am still holding out for that tenderloin and beer.....

[The Troll]

  If you are happy living in Wonder Land have at it, because you are stuck.  There isn't any jobs out there like yours.  So hang on.  But I do wish you knew more about unions than hearsay.  Because you are sure wrong about them.   What ticklesne is you want to put 100% of the blame on the unions.  Who in hell sign the union agreement.  It was management.

  You're not out on the Tenderloin, but it still a little way off,  because of the way the Republicans screw up the country and the way they have acted in the last two years.

  But you still have not gave me any ideas on creating jobs yet.  All I have heard is cutting cost, quit spending and cutting tax, no jobs.

[me]

Let's hear your ideas Troll.  I'd be interested in hearing your solution, HH did give his you just didn't like it because it stomped all over your precious unions. 

  If you are happy living in Wonder Land have at it, because you are stuck.  There isn't any jobs out there like yours.  So hang on.  But I do wish you knew more about unions than hearsay.  Because you are sure wrong about them.   What ticklesne is you want to put 100% of the blame on the unions.  Who in hell sign the union agreement.  It was management.

  You're not out on the Tenderloin, but it still a little way off,  because of the way the Republicans screw up the country and the way they have acted in the last two years.

  But you still have not gave me any ideas on creating jobs yet.  All I have heard is cutting cost, quit spending and cutting tax, no jobs.

[The Troll]

Let's hear your ideas Troll.  I'd be interested in hearing your solution, HH did give his you just didn't like it because it stomped all over your precious unions.

  OK, one real easy one.  The country is small and can't cause to much trouble and they are screwing the hell out of us.  They have a closed country to our products.  If the take on this country first and renegoshate the trade treaty and make it fair and balanced, on a level plain.  It will scare the rest on the unfair countries and wake them up to the fact we are serious a bout the bad trade treaty we have made.

  The country is Korea.  Last year they sent over 950,000 thousand cars and we sent in none.  Because they have a 400% tariff on our cars.  Same way on electrical products.  In fact on everything they ship into this country.

  After we get them we get NAFTA.  All new trade treaties will be fair and on a level playing field.

  Can you Republicans live with that?  I doubt it.

[Henry Hawk]

  If you are happy living in Wonder Land have at it, because you are stuck.  There isn't any jobs out there like yours.  So hang on.  But I do wish you knew more about unions than hearsay.  Because you are sure wrong about them.   What ticklesne is you want to put 100% of the blame on the unions.  Who in hell sign the union agreement.  It was management.

  You're not out on the Tenderloin, but it still a little way off,  because of the way the Republicans screw up the country and the way they have acted in the last two years.

  But you still have not gave me any ideas on creating jobs yet.  All I have heard is cutting cost, quit spending and cutting tax, no jobs.

Troll, when you CUT spending, Cut Taxes and balance our budget, that is motivating consumer confidence...the private sector will begin to spend and create jobs.  It is really simple....Reagan DID this. Our economy thrived.
Also, troll, I DID say earlier, that I would raise taxes on imports from other countries, maybe I should have said Tariffs, but I agree with you on this and I have said so for a long time now....we need to even the playing field on those Countries....

[The Troll]

Troll, when you CUT spending, Cut Taxes and balance our budget, that is motivating consumer confidence...the private sector will begin to spend and create jobs.  It is really simple....Reagan DID this. Our economy thrived.
Also, troll, I DID say earlier, that I would raise taxes on imports from other countries, maybe I should have said Tariffs, but I agree with you on this and I have said so for a long time now....we need to even the playing field on those Countries....

OK, what do you think of the new report on how to handle the debt that came out yesterday.  Most of it sound good.  I like the idea of no tax deductions.  No more paid lunches for clients and so on and so  on.