Republican Party, Teabag Party and the Libertarian Party absolutely SUCK!

[LOsborne]

It is also a fact that they could have been evacuated but the mayor chose not to do so.   

Another lie. And you can't even question my source.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,167243,00.html

Maybe this will make it clearer.

Nagin first called for a voluntary evacuation of the city at 5:00 p.m. on August 27 and subsequently ordered a citywide mandatory evacuation at 9:30 a.m. on August 28, the first such order in the city's history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_Hurricane_Katrina_in_New_Orleans#Evacuation_order

[LOsborne]

  It is also a fact that Bush asked the governor if they needed help before it hit and she said they were fine. 

How long can your nose grow, Pinnochio?

Blanco notified President Bush two days before the storm hit that federal assistance would be needed. And she said she told Bush on August 29, "We need your help. We need everything you've got....

...Five days after one request from the governor for federal help, a presidential aide told Blanco in a memo that Bush never got her letter

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/12/04/blanco.papers/

C'mon, me, ONE source. Hit me with your best shot.

[The Troll]

The Governor of Texas said in an interview that the oil spill "was a act of God."  I wonder where he's got his head.


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   13 TO 1, 13 REPUBLICANS TO I DEMOCRAT WERE RECIENTS WHO SET ON THE OIL OVERSIGHT  COMMITTEES.


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   Are they oiling the hands of these men.

[me]

Here's one I found but it is getting harder to find now.  I did not use Fox as a source at the time.  http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/07/AR2005090702462.html

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Controversy_over_whether_New_Orleans_Mayor_failed_to_follow_hurricane_plan

http://www.gpoaccess.gov/katrinareport/execsummary.pdf

Want more?

[LOsborne]

Here's one I found but it is getting harder to find now.  I did not use Fox as a source at the time.  http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/07/AR2005090702462.html

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Controversy_over_whether_New_Orleans_Mayor_failed_to_follow_hurricane_plan

http://www.gpoaccess.gov/katrinareport/execsummary.pdf

Want more?

Your first source talks about the Army Corps spending money on projects other than repairing the levees. Look at it, me. The federally funded ARMY CORPS -- not the state -- pursued projects other than flood control. And even your supposedly contradicting source states in the fourth paragraph Much of that Louisiana money was spent to try to keep low-lying New Orleans dry.

Your second source talks about the school buses. Yes, the school buses were available. But guess what? The ignition keys were not available. This source also includes the text the evacuation was ordered by Mayor Nagin, President Bush having no direct authority to order evacuations.

Your final link (which is from the Government Printing Office, so you tell me how to fact-check the damned thing) whines about The failure to order timely mandatory evacuations, Mayor Nagin's decision to shelter but not evacuate the remaining population, and decisions of individuals led to an incomplete evacuation.

No keys to the buses, remember? And let's not ignore that phrase: decisions of individuals...

And there is also this point:
It does not appear the President received adequate advice and counsel from a senior disaster professional.

Would the senior disaster professional be "heckuvajob Brownie"?

So you gave me two sources that support my position, and one (administration produced) source that tries to spread the blame, and winds up forced to assign some to the Bush administration.

Now, are you going to continue disseminating the revisionist's line of faux statistics, or finally face the indisputable truth of the event?

[The Troll]

Here's one I found but it is getting harder to find now.  I did not use Fox as a source at the time.  http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/09/07/AR2005090702462.html

http://en.wikinews.org/wiki/Controversy_over_whether_New_Orleans_Mayor_failed_to_follow_hurricane_plan

http://www.gpoaccess.gov/katrinareport/execsummary.pdf

Want more?

  Beating a    It's over, the damage has already been done.  George W. cut funds to the corp of engineers for dikes in New Orleans.  That for sure.  Prove he didn't do that.

[LOsborne]

Here's one I found but it is getting harder to find now.

Bullshit. I found hundreds of sources. None supporting your fantasy, however.

[me]

If the keys weren't available how did that kid who didn't have a drivers license get ahold of that school bus off the lot and get some people out of there.  The keys were hanging on a board right inside the building of the lot they were sitting on.

Your first source talks about the Army Corps spending money on projects other than repairing the levees. Look at it, me. The federally funded ARMY CORPS -- not the state -- pursued projects other than flood control. And even your supposedly contradicting source states in the fourth paragraph Much of that Louisiana money was spent to try to keep low-lying New Orleans dry.

Your second source talks about the school buses. Yes, the school buses were available. But guess what? The ignition keys were not available. This source also includes the text the evacuation was ordered by Mayor Nagin, President Bush having no direct authority to order evacuations.

Your final link (which is from the Government Printing Office, so you tell me how to fact-check the damned thing) whines about The failure to order timely mandatory evacuations, Mayor Nagin's decision to shelter but not evacuate the remaining population, and decisions of individuals led to an incomplete evacuation.

No keys to the buses, remember? And let's not ignore that phrase: decisions of individuals...

And there is also this point:
It does not appear the President received adequate advice and counsel from a senior disaster professional.

Would the senior disaster professional be "heckuvajob Brownie"?

So you gave me two sources that support my position, and one (administration produced) source that tries to spread the blame, and winds up forced to assign some to the Bush administration.

Now, are you going to continue disseminating the revisionist's line of faux statistics, or finally face the indisputable truth of the event?

[LOsborne]

If the keys weren't available how did that kid who didn't have a drivers license get ahold of that school bus off the lot and get some people out of there. 

He stole them. Duh....

And your other two sources? What... no comment?

[me]

He stole them. Duh....

And your other two sources? What... no comment?

My point is the keys were available.

[LOsborne]

My point is the keys were available.

Not to anyone who respected the law.  Are you telling me you don't?

[me]

Not to anyone who respected the law.  Are you telling me you don't?

They could have been used for the evacuation by the Mayor is my point. The keys were available. 

[LOsborne]

Address the other two source points, please.

Reasonable people understand that breaking into the administration building to steal the school bus keys was not a course of action that would leap to the minds of most law-abiding citizens.

[me]

Address the other two source points, please.

Reasonable people understand that breaking into the administration building to steal the school bus keys was not a course of action that would leap to the minds of most law-abiding citizens.

They could have been commandeered by the Mayor to use as transportation to evacuate people.  They were state property and it wouldn't have mattered even if they were privately owned.

[LOsborne]

Jesus! The keys were not readily accessible. There was no electricity, no clean water, and no functioning infrastructure. How was this operation going to be executed? Do you live in the real world?

Now, how about addressing the other two BLATANT FALSEHOODS you are disseminating?