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Republican Party, Teabag Party and the Libertarian Party absolutely SUCK!

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Palehorse

#6750
October 08, 2012, 09:26:13 PM
Quote from: me on October 08, 2012, 08:31:27 PM
What?  Have you hit your head?

I revel in my smartass-dom and sarcastic sense of humor. You don't get it? Tough. I am not changing for the likes of you and am far too long in the tooth to seriously consider changing much of anything about myself. I've grown quite fond of the reactions I am able to obtain with little to no effort. . . I'd miss them, and to be quite honest about it I'd miss me more. . .
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Locutus

#6751
October 08, 2012, 09:28:46 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on October 08, 2012, 09:22:52 PM
:yes: :yes: :yes:

Amazing, isn't it?   Only in this country.  :mad:
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Palehorse

#6752
October 08, 2012, 09:30:43 PM
Indeed!
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

me

#6753
October 08, 2012, 09:41:59 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on October 08, 2012, 09:26:13 PM
I revel in my smartass-dom and sarcastic sense of humor. You don't get it? Tough. I am not changing for the likes of you and am far too long in the tooth to seriously consider changing much of anything about myself. I've grown quite fond of the reactions I am able to obtain with little to no effort. . . I'd miss them, and to be quite honest about it I'd miss me more. . .
Did I ask you to change? 
Trump 2020

Palehorse

#6754
October 09, 2012, 08:27:14 AM
 :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

The Troll

#6755
October 09, 2012, 01:31:23 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on October 09, 2012, 08:27:14 AM
:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

   "ME" is like one of those super big snapping turtles that "Turtle Man" takes out of the farm ponds.  Big, sharp beak that can cut off fingers.  With a hard shell that nothing can get though.  So tough and hard that even the truth can't penetrate.  :haha:  Old Shell Back "ME"  :haha:  :haha:

Exterminator

#6756
October 09, 2012, 02:04:41 PM
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

The Troll

#6757
October 10, 2012, 05:27:28 PM

  I have a little bible verse about Romney and Ryan.  This you for you Bat Shit Crazy Christians.   :biggrin:

  Watch out for false prophets.

  They come to you in sheep's

  clothing, but inwardly they

  are ferocious wolves.  By

  their fruit, you will recognize them.

  Matthew 7:15-20

  Let us pray.  :pray:  :preach:  :pope:

Exterminator

#6758
October 10, 2012, 06:10:32 PM
LMAO...google, "completely wrong," and then click on, "images."
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

The Troll

#6759
October 10, 2012, 06:16:09 PM

  Ann Romney's main worry was about Mitt's mental health.   I know why, hell, he's got more faces than Eve.  Eve had a three faces, I don't how many faces Mitt has.  Multiple Personality Syndrome is a very hard thing to cure.   :yes:

  Which face of Mitt does the Republicans want Mitt to rule the White House with.  :doh:   :bliss:    OR   :bliss:               :chacha:  OR  :chacha:

Locutus

#6760
October 10, 2012, 06:38:23 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on October 10, 2012, 06:10:32 PM
LMAO...google, "completely wrong," and then click on, "images."

It's a vast left wing conspiracy.  :biggrin:
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Palehorse

#6761
October 11, 2012, 11:18:55 AM
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

#6762
October 11, 2012, 12:44:17 PM
Olias,
May I ask you an honest question.  Do you consider the poster PH posted a lie?

The following is a list of all the clean energy companies supported by President Obama's stimulus that are now failing or have filed for bankruptcy...

Solyndra of course, then there are these:
Evergreen
http://bostonherald.com/business/technology/general/view/2011_0815evergreen_solar_files_for_bankruptcy_plans_asset_sale

SpectraWatt
http://www.pv-magazine.com/news/details/beitrag/spectrawatt-files-for-bankruptcy-just-months-after-laying-off-workers_100003997/#axzz290R3dtut

Beacon Power
http://news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-20128637-54/beacon-power-were-broke-but-were-no-solyndra/

AES' subsidary Eastern Energy
http://www.energyboom.com/finance/aes-corp-subsidiary-files-chapter-11-bankruptcy-protection

Nevada Geothermal
http://www.macroaxis.com/invest/alphaSearch/NGP.V

SunPower
http://calcoastnews.com/2011/11/sunpower-reports-huge-loss/

First Solar
http://www.forbes.com/sites/uciliawang/2012/04/18/how-first-solar-struggles-amid-decline-of-thin-film-solar-market/


Babcock & Brown
http://www.costar.com/News/Article/Babcock-Browns-Troubles-Down-Under-Hit-US-Apt-Market/111114


Ener1 (subsidiary of EnerDel)
http://reason.com/blog/2012/01/26/ener1-goes-bankrupt-becomes-second-or-th

Amonix
http://www.scpr.org/blogs/economy/2012/07/19/9065/amonix-more-woes-government-supported-solar-startu/


The National Renewable Energy Lab
http://nlpc.org/stories/2012/10/10/doe-hiding-truth-about-bankrupt-abound-solars-defective-panels


Solar Trust of America
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/02/us-solartrust-bankruptcy-idUSBRE8310ZV20120402


A123 Systems
http://seekingalpha.com/article/665201-a123-system-s-new-battery-won-t-stave-off-bankruptcy


Willard & Kelsey Solar Group
http://madisonproject.com/2012/04/another-failed-solar-company/

If so, should it be posted in the TUZ liars area?





"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Bo D

#6763
October 11, 2012, 01:00:42 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 11, 2012, 12:44:17 PM
Olias,
May I ask you an honest question.  Do you consider the poster PH posted a lie?

The following is a list of all the clean energy companies supported by President Obama's stimulus that are now failing or have filed for bankruptcy...

Solyndra of course, then there are these:
Evergreen
http://bostonherald.com/business/technology/general/view/2011_0815evergreen_solar_files_for_bankruptcy_plans_asset_sale

SpectraWatt
http://www.pv-magazine.com/news/details/beitrag/spectrawatt-files-for-bankruptcy-just-months-after-laying-off-workers_100003997/#axzz290R3dtut

Beacon Power
http://news.cnet.com/8301-11128_3-20128637-54/beacon-power-were-broke-but-were-no-solyndra/

AES' subsidary Eastern Energy
http://www.energyboom.com/finance/aes-corp-subsidiary-files-chapter-11-bankruptcy-protection

Nevada Geothermal
http://www.macroaxis.com/invest/alphaSearch/NGP.V

SunPower
http://calcoastnews.com/2011/11/sunpower-reports-huge-loss/

First Solar
http://www.forbes.com/sites/uciliawang/2012/04/18/how-first-solar-struggles-amid-decline-of-thin-film-solar-market/


Babcock & Brown
http://www.costar.com/News/Article/Babcock-Browns-Troubles-Down-Under-Hit-US-Apt-Market/111114


Ener1 (subsidiary of EnerDel)
http://reason.com/blog/2012/01/26/ener1-goes-bankrupt-becomes-second-or-th

Amonix
http://www.scpr.org/blogs/economy/2012/07/19/9065/amonix-more-woes-government-supported-solar-startu/


The National Renewable Energy Lab
http://nlpc.org/stories/2012/10/10/doe-hiding-truth-about-bankrupt-abound-solars-defective-panels


Solar Trust of America
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/02/us-solartrust-bankruptcy-idUSBRE8310ZV20120402


A123 Systems
http://seekingalpha.com/article/665201-a123-system-s-new-battery-won-t-stave-off-bankruptcy


Willard & Kelsey Solar Group
http://madisonproject.com/2012/04/another-failed-solar-company/

If so, should it be posted in the TUZ liars area?






According to what I have read, the poster absolutely tells the truth ...

Now let me ask you, how many of those companies you listed received FEDERAL loan guarantees? Did Evergreen?  Come on , now. Be honest.

http://www.factcheck.org/2012/10/romneys-clean-energy-whoppers/
Romney's Clean Energy Whoppers

    Romney falsely claimed "about half" of the clean-energy companies that received U.S.-backed loans "have gone out of business." But 26 companies received loan guarantees under a loan program cited by Romney, and three of those have filed for bankruptcy. The three firms were approved for about 6 percent of the loan guarantees.
    Romney incorrectly claimed the "$90 billion in breaks to the green energy world" was provided "in one year." It was over several years.
    He stated at one point that Obama put $90 billion "into solar and wind." But only $21 billion went for renewable energy projects, "such as the installation of wind turbines and solar panels," according to a White House document cited by the Romney campaign. The spending also included $18 billion for transit projects and $10 billion to upgrade the nation's electrical grid.
    He falsely claimed the $90 billion was equal to "about 50 years' worth of what oil and gas receives" in tax breaks, which he estimated at $2.8 billion. By his own figures, it would have been 32 years' worth. But it's even less than that. The administration estimates that eliminating oil and gas tax preferences would raise about $3.9 billion a year (23 years' worth). The industry itself says the administration would increase its taxes by $8.5 billion a year (10.5 years' worth).
    He falsely claimed Obama "put $90 billion into green jobs ... that would have hired 2 million teachers." But that $90 billion included loans, not just grant money, and the government can't hire teachers with loans.

When we asked the Romney campaign for information on this claim, we were told that it refers only to companies that received so-called section 1705 loans — a program created by the stimulus. A second program — the so-called section 1703 loan program — was created under the Bush administration, but loans were approved by the current administration. Also, Romney counted only section 1705 loan guarantees approved in the Obama administration's first two years — ignoring the past two years.

Romney did not say any of that during the debate.

By limiting his scope to just the first two years of the program, Romney arrives at seven companies and three of them — including Solyndra — have filed for bankruptcy protection. The others were Beacon Power, which received a loan guarantee of $43 million, and  Abound Solar, which was approved for a $400 million loan but borrowed only $70 million against that. So, combined the three companies were approved for a total of $978 million in U.S.-backed loans and borrowed $648 million of that.

But there were a total of 26 companies that received approval for $16 billion in loan guarantees under the section 1705 program. So, 11.5 percent of the companies — not half — have filed for bankruptcy. And those companies were approved for a little more than 6 percent of the $16 billion in total loan guarantees.

Two other companies were awarded a total of $10.3 billion in loan guarantees by the Obama administration under the section 1703 program. So, if you count them, the bankruptcy rate would fall to under 11 percent, and the money at risk drops to about 4 percent.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Henry Hawk

#6764
October 11, 2012, 01:14:49 PM
Olias right off the cuff, it says only three "filed" for bankruptcy...

All of these companies, received taxpayer money for green initiatives. and HAVE filed for bankruptcy.

       
  • Abound Solar (Loveland, Colorado), manufacturer of thin film photovoltaic modules.
  • Beacon Power (Tyngsborough, Massachusetts), designed and developed advanced products and services to support stable, reliable and efficient electricity grid operation.
  • Ener1 (Indianapolis, Indiana), built compact lithium-ion-powered battery solutions for hybrid and electric cars.
  • Energy Conversion Devices (Rochester Hills, Michigan/Auburn Hills, Michigan), manufacturer of flexible thin film photovoltaic (PV) technology and a producer of batteries and other renewable energy-related products.
  • Evergreen Solar, Inc. (Marlborough, Massachusetts), manufactured and installed solar panels.
  • Mountain Plaza, Inc. (Dandridge, Tennessee), designed and implemented "truck-stop electrification" technology.
  • Olsen's Crop Service and Olsens Mills Acquisition Co. (Berlin, Wisconsin), a private company producing ethanol.
  • Range Fuels (Soperton, Georgia), tried to develop a technology that converted biomass into ethanol without the use of enzymes.
  • Raser Technologies (Provo, Utah), geothermal power plants and technology licensing.
  • Solyndra (Fremont, California), manufacturer of cylindrical panels of thin-film solar cells.
  • Spectrawatt (Hopewell, New York), solar cell manufacturer.
  • Thompson River Power LLC (Wayzata, Minnesota), designed and developed advanced products and services to support stable, reliable and efficient electricity grid operation.
  :confused:

don't side track this question here.  There ARE more than three that filed for bankruptcy
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW
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