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May 19, 2010, 08:52:41 AM
What is the difference between "misspeaking" and lying?  Example:  Someone tells something about their past to make themselves look good to a certain group of people and it's found to be untrue later: is that lying or misspeaking?
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Henry Hawk

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May 19, 2010, 08:57:59 AM
Quote from: me on May 19, 2010, 08:52:41 AM
What is the difference between "misspeaking" and lying?  Example:  Someone tells something about their past to make themselves look good to a certain group of people and it's found to be untrue later: is that lying or misspeaking?

Politicians like to use the word "misspeaking".....that does not sound like they are a bold faced liar!!  John Kerry had this problem...
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Sandy Eggo

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May 19, 2010, 09:15:47 AM
I know what you're talking about and I agree that in the context it was used that it's sematical in an attempt to reduce the blow of using the word lie.

There is technically a difference though. To misspeak implies that it was unintentional or a mistake.

I think it was a mistake that he lied, but the mistake wasn't unintentional.

Anyway, let he who is in politics and isn't guilty cast the first stone.
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me

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May 19, 2010, 09:23:25 AM
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on May 19, 2010, 09:15:47 AM
I know what you're talking about and I agree that in the context it was used that it's sematical in an attempt to reduce the blow of using the word lie.

There is technically a difference though. To misspeak implies that it was unintentional or a mistake.

I think it was a mistake that he lied, but the mistake wasn't unintentional.

Anyway, let he who is in politics and isn't guilty cast the first stone.
Oh crap, now something really is gonna happen.  Sandy and I agree on something.   :eek:
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Sandy Eggo

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May 19, 2010, 10:01:38 AM
Snow! in May! for San Diego :biggrin:

You and I agreeing would inspire an event like that ;D
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Palehorse

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May 19, 2010, 10:10:02 AM
 :confused: Someone say snow?  :confused: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted:
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me

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May 19, 2010, 11:01:23 AM
Quote from: Palehorse on May 19, 2010, 10:10:02 AM
:confused: Someone say snow?  :confused: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted: :icon_twisted:
Just remember, ya can't ride the horse in the snow..... :biggrin:
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kimmi

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May 19, 2010, 11:12:51 AM
That is like this conversation I was having on another site where the guy said his grandfather was an "unofficial" citizen.  Wouldn't that be the same as illegal? I've never heard of an unofficial citizen before.
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me

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May 19, 2010, 01:06:08 PM
Quote from: kimmi on May 19, 2010, 11:12:51 AM
That is like this conversation I was having on another site where the guy said his grandfather was an "unofficial" citizen.  Wouldn't that be the same as illegal? I've never heard of an unofficial citizen before.
Must be a new politically correct term. 
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The Troll

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May 19, 2010, 01:15:41 PM
Quote from: me on May 19, 2010, 08:52:41 AM
What is the difference between "misspeaking" and lying?  Example:  Someone tells something about their past to make themselves look good to a certain group of people and it's found to be untrue later: is that lying or misspeaking?

   If you're talking a Senator Blumenthal saying the he was in Vietnam, he was flatass lying.  I serve in the reserve during the Vietnam War and never left the states.  There is no way that I would say that I serve over there in the war.

  I have had some people say thank you for your service and I tell them very quickly that I was never over there, never left the states and thanked my lucky stars that I did have to.

  Blumenthal is done, he's cooked his goose.  If he doesn't drop out, he sure won't be elected.

  Lying about being in any war is one thing no one can lie about and get away with it.

me

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May 19, 2010, 01:57:15 PM
Holy crap the world is gonna end I just know it.  Sandy, Troll, and I all agree on the same thing......  :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
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The Troll

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May 19, 2010, 05:03:25 PM
Quote from: me on May 19, 2010, 01:57:15 PM
Holy crap the world is gonna end I just know it.  Sandy, Troll, and I all agree on the same thing......  :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

  Let us say together, oh those Pennies From Heaven.

kimmi

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May 19, 2010, 06:54:11 PM
Quote from: me on May 19, 2010, 01:06:08 PM
Must be a new politically correct term.

No this guy tried to say that his grandfather came here as an immigrant, worked for a manufacturing company and was an unofficial citizen until he retired and then became a citizen.  None of that makes any sense to me.
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The Troll

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May 19, 2010, 11:12:38 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 19, 2010, 08:57:59 AM
Politicians like to use the word "misspeaking".....that does not sound like they are a bold faced liar!!  John Kerry had this problem...

  John Kerry was a war hero.  He served his time in hell.  He was wounded several times.  He was the victim of some very good Republican lying.  The Swift Boat men were proved to be lier's everyone of the sonuvabitces.

  For people who never serve a day in the service of his country or dodged the draft with college deferments should keep their mouths shut.

me

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May 20, 2010, 12:39:03 AM
You mean the whole 4 months and then he came back and proceeded to bad mouth the military in those senate hearings and is a lot of the cause of the vets getting treated like they did when they returned.  Don't even start on that idiot.

Quote from: The Troll on May 19, 2010, 11:12:38 PM
  John Kerry was a war hero.  He served his time in hell.  He was wounded several times.  He was the victim of some very good Republican lying.  The Swift Boat men were proved to be lier's everyone of the sonuvabitces.

  For people who never serve a day in the service of his country or dodged the draft with college deferments should keep their mouths shut.
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