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[me]

In one of the threads in the unmoderated area you said Ironworkers and Steelworkers were the same, which they're not.  Here is a few photos of Ironworkers doing part of what they do.  Just click on the link below where it says Empire State building and you will see.  I hope you have MSpower point so you can view this.  If not I'll figure out another way to show you.

[The Troll]

In one of the threads in the unmoderated area you said Ironworkers and Steelworkers were the same, which they're not.  Here is a few photos of Ironworkers doing part of what they do.  Just click on the link below where it says Empire State building and you will see.  I hope you have MSpower point so you can view this.  If not I'll figure out another way to show you.

  Steel Worker, Iron Worker, I know one thing their work is hard, dirty and dangerous and they are good union men.  Because they are smart and know which side of the bread the butter is on.

  The Troll  UAW  

[me]

  Steel Worker, Iron Worker, I know one thing their work is hard, dirty and dangerous and they are good union men.  Because they are smart and know which side of the bread the butter is on.

  The Troll  UAW  

Yes, they are hard workers and the work is extremely dangerous especially the construction part.  There are easier jobs they do but for the most part are working in less than ideal conditions most of the time.  Their union is entirely different than the UAW and for the most part OSHA dictates working conditions and safety issues for their job sites.   

[The Troll]

Yes, they are hard workers and the work is extremely dangerous especially the construction part.  There are easier jobs they do but for the most part are working in less than ideal conditions most of the time.  Their union is entirely different than the UAW and for the most part OSHA dictates working conditions and safety issues for their job sites.

  OHHHH, great one, Oh please tell me how they differ, the UAW and the Iron Workers.  Please tell me, you seem to know so much about unions and what they do for their workers.  With you being so Antiunion. 

  Your so antiunion, you don't want to even help the poor Walmart workers.

[me]

  OHHHH, great one, Oh please tell me how they differ, the UAW and the Iron Workers.  Please tell me, you seem to know so much about unions and what they do for their workers.  With you being so Antiunion. 

  Your so antiunion, you don't want to even help the poor Walmart workers.

One of the biggest differences is they don't dictate rules to the companies or force companies to hire you back if you're fired or laid off.  There are no committee men to run to if you get laid off or fired they just go find another job with another company either on their own or through the hiring hall. They, the union, do negotiate with companies for wages and portions paid for benefits by the companies and take care of which insurance company covers the members.  But then it's a different ball game than it is working for the same company in the same place day after day.  Ironworker's, unless they're extremely lucky, work for many different companies and sometimes up to as many as 15 a year.  My ex did end up becoming a supervisor for a company and worked for them for about 6yrs but got sick of traveling and wanted to stay local so he gave it up. 

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[The Troll]

One of the biggest differences is they don't dictate rules to the companies or force companies to hire you back if you're fired or laid off.  There are no committee men to run to if you get laid off or fired they just go find another job with another company either on their own or through the hiring hall. They, the union, do negotiate with companies for wages and portions paid for benefits by the companies and take care of which insurance company covers the members.  But then it's a different ball game than it is working for the same company in the same place day after day.  Ironworker's, unless they're extremely lucky, work for many different companies and sometimes up to as many as 15 a year.  My ex did end up becoming a supervisor for a company and worked for them for about 6yrs but got sick of traveling and wanted to stay local so he gave it up.

  How many years did you spend working for the UAW.  Also where do you get all of your information how the the UAW and the UAW committeemen operate within the union.

  Because what you have said it total   You don't know one thing about the UAW and it operation.  Your talking to a person to worked with the UAW of 38 years. 

  Let get one thing straight with you, tho it impossible.  The UAW does not dictate who will be fired and who will be laid off.

  Now the UAW Committeemen, there main job is to keep mean, cruel, unfair, unjust company supervisors like you from abusing the workers and firing or disciplining them unjustly.  Which you have probably have done to several people in your work history.  I sure would like to talk to some of them who dislike you.  It's amazing what you can find out about a person when you talk to someone who truly dislikes them. 

  But there one thing you have proved to me is  you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground.     

[me]

  How many years did you spend working for the UAW.  Also where do you get all of your information how the the UAW and the UAW committeemen operate within the union.

  Because what you have said it total   You don't know one thing about the UAW and it operation.  Your talking to a person to worked with the UAW of 38 years. 

  Let get one thing straight with you, tho it impossible.  The UAW does not dictate who will be fired and who will be laid off.

  Now the UAW Committeemen, there main job is to keep mean, cruel, unfair, unjust company supervisors like you from abusing the workers and firing or disciplining them unjustly.  Which you have probably have done to several people in your work history.  I sure would like to talk to some of them who dislike you.  It's amazing what you can find out about a person when you talk to someone who truly dislikes them. 

  But there one thing you have proved to me is  you don't know your ass from a hole in the ground.     

I think you'd better go back and re read what I wrote Troll. 

[The Troll]

I think you'd better go back and re read what I wrote Troll.

  I reread it and the first two sentences said it all, just what I said.  Reread mine.  Reread the third paragraph and the job of a committeeman.

[me]

  I reread it and the first two sentences said it all, just what I said.  Reread mine.  Reread the third paragraph and the job of a committeeman.

I know what the job of a committeeman is and Ironworkers don't have them to run and whine to. 

[The Troll]

I know what the job of a committeeman is and Ironworkers don't have them to run and whine to.

  Where I work for 38 years there were a whole lot of reasons to call a committeeman,  With the stupid, brain dead, bully supervisors Ford hired.  I'll bet you were one in your prime working days.  I bet you were a real asshole to work for.  Heil Hitler, ARBEIT MACHT FREI, Frau Me.

[me]

  Where I work for 38 years there were a whole lot of reasons to call a committeeman,  With the stupid, brain dead, bully supervisors Ford hired.  I'll bet you were one in your prime working days.  I bet you were a real asshole to work for.  Heil Hitler, ARBEIT MACHT FREI, Frau Me.

Expecting people to do the job they are being paid to do is not being a bully. 

[The Troll]

Expecting people to do the job they are being paid to do is not being a bully. 

You're a scab and a bully.  You expect a working man and working woman to kiss your supervisor ass.  It is a waste of my time to talking to you about the rights of working of the middle class and their right to get a fair days pay for a fair days pay.  You want salves, blanked eyes, bent backs slaves.  Bowing to the all mighty "ME:    and

[me]

You're a scab and a bully.  You expect a working man and working woman to kiss your supervisor ass.  It is a waste of my time to talking to you about the rights of working of the middle class and their right to get a fair days pay for a fair days pay.  You want salves, blanked eyes, bent backs slaves.  Bowing to the all mighty "ME:    and

And you my dear sir wish to go to work and get paid to look at it rather than get paid for doing it from the sounds of it.