Obama to nominate Elena Kagan to the SCOTUS

[The Troll]

In case you missed this from earlier...I will post it again...


I have pleanty of reasons WHY I dont' like him....

for one, he is a liar!

"I'll get rid of earmarks"...LIE

"Unemployment rate will be 8.5% without stimulus."...LIE...we passed the stimulus and it is 10%

"I am immediately instituting PayGo "Pay as you go""......BIG LIE...

"Recovery Act will save or create jobs"....WHEN?..OH, another LIE

"Guantanamo bay to be closed within a year"....LIE

"We have launched a housing plan that will help responsible families facing the threat of foreclosure lower their monthly payments and refinance their mortgages."  ...the foreclosure rate has shot up the last quarter of 09....months AFTER he passed the bill..a LIE!

"Health Care deals will be covered on C-span"......okay..  ..LIE

he said he would "Have troops out of Iraq by March 31, 2009"...on his campaign trail....well, again just another big LIE!!

and that along with the massive spending ...well, I simply don't LIKE HIM!!!  do I need to give MORE reasons?

I have no problem with WHY you don't like W or Cheney.............they are NOT my hero's...they made their mistakes...but, I would take them OVER what is happening today...in a heart beat.

Oh, there is more if you like to see them...

   He hasn't lied on anything.  If he was as powerful as your God, he would have fixed everything by now.

  But your Republican Party and It's leaders had walked lin ockstep and voted 100% against everything he has tried to do.

  Nobody of this earth had any idea of the total damage was done to this country by the Republican Party and Phil Gramm, when you people took off all the regulations off the banks and stockmark.

  Everything that wrong with this country.  Free trade, Losing jobs overseas, corupt bank and stockmarket traders and trades all started with Newt Gingrich's contract for America, Phil Gramm and the Republican Party. 

  For the corporation, to the corporation, by the corporation.  The Republican Party.

[Sandy Eggo]

Abner Mikva (Kagan's former boss - retired judge and Congressman)
said "It's great to have judicial experience, it's even greater to have the broader world experience that she's had. She's worked with the legislative branch. She's worked with the executive branch."

[Henry Hawk]

Abner Mikva (Kagan's former boss - retired judge and Congressman)
said "It's great to have judicial experience, it's even greater to have the broader world experience that she's had. She's worked with the legislative branch. She's worked with the executive branch."

as long as she will loyally defend the Constitution and rule of law, and extend her personal views because of her world experience.

[Henry Hawk]

as long as she will loyally defend the Constitution and rule of law, and not extend her personal views because of her world experience.

[Anne]

   He hasn't lied on anything.  If he was as powerful as your God, he would have fixed everything by now.

  But your Republican Party and It's leaders had walked lin ockstep and voted 100% against everything he has tried to do.
  Nobody of this earth had any idea of the total damage was done to this country by the Republican Party and Phil Gramm, when you people took off all the regulations off the banks and stockmark.

  Everything that wrong with this country.  Free trade, Losing jobs overseas, corupt bank and stockmarket traders and trades all started with Newt Gingrich's contract for America, Phil Gramm and the Republican Party. 

  For the corporation, to the corporation, by the corporation.  The Republican Party.

When did the Democrats lose control of the House and senate?

[The Troll]

When did the Democrats lose control of the House and senate?

  I don't understand your question.  Please explain.  Are you talking having 50% of the 100 Senate votes or the required 60 votes to keep the Republicans from a filabuster.  We never have had 60 Democrats

[Anne]

The Democrats have been had a majority in both houses for as long as President Obama has been in office, they could, if they were a solid front, pass almost anything they wanted too, as in the health insurance bill. You can't blame lack of President Obama's progress on the Republicans, the Democrats are not all behind him either.

He has not been able to deliver on his promises, as in Gitmo, unemployment, withdrawl from Iraq, etc. He made promises he probably couldn't keep which was wrong but probably no worse than most other politicians.

[Palehorse]

The Democrats have been had a majority in both houses for as long as President Obama has been in office, they could, if they were a solid front, pass almost anything they wanted too, as in the health insurance bill. You can't blame lack of President Obama's progress on the Republicans, the Democrats are not all behind him either.

He has not been able to deliver on his promises, as in Gitmo, unemployment, withdrawl from Iraq, etc. He made promises he probably couldn't keep which was wrong but probably no worse than most other politicians.

Clearly a statement from one who has no inkling surrounding economics, military operations, SOP's or government.

[me]

Let's see, it was the Republican's fault when they had control of the congress because they got to do what ever they wanted but now that the congress is controlled by the Dems, and has been for almost 4yrs now, it's the Republicans fault because they are bulling up and being divisive.   

[Palehorse]

Let's see, it was the Republican's fault when they had control of the congress because they got to do what ever they wanted but now that the congress is controlled by the Dems, and has been for almost 4yrs now, it's the Republicans fault because they are bulling up and being divisive.   

Clearly a statement from one who has no inkling surrounding economics, military operations, SOP's or government.

Once again. . .

[me]

The one where if it's a good thing the Dem's did it and if it's a bad thing blame it on the Republicans no matter who is President or in control of congress?  Ya, I'm becoming all too familiar with that line of thinking.

Clearly a statement from one who has no inkling surrounding economics, military operations, SOP's or government.

[Palehorse]

The one where if it's a good thing the Dem's did it and if it's a bad thing blame it on the Republicans?  Ya, I'm becoming all too familiar with that line of thinking.

Once again. . .

[The Troll]

The Democrats have been had a majority in both houses for as long as President Obama has been in office, they could, if they were a solid front, pass almost anything they wanted too, as in the health insurance bill. You can't blame lack of President Obama's progress on the Republicans, the Democrats are not all behind him either.

He has not been able to deliver on his promises, as in Gitmo, unemployment, withdrawl from Iraq, etc. He made promises he probably couldn't keep which was wrong but probably no worse than most other politicians.

  The Democrats have never had the majority of the votes.  The Republicans always want to count the 2 indepenents as democrat votes.  With Joe Lieberman, who in hell knows which he's going to go.  He only for himself.

  But the Republicans are lucky.  Running the Democratic Party is like herding cats.  You can't get them to walk in lockstep like the Republican do with their members.

  I'm quite sure you have heard of Dixiecrats.  Republican dressed up like Democrats.  Well, now we have the same thing, some of them call themselves Blue Dog Democrats.

  With the election of Scot Brown from Massachesetts, there are 48 Democrats and 2 independents who meet with the Democrats.  But when you deal with these lockstepping Republicans who wants to destroy this country by destroying Obama, we need 60 votes on practically everything.

  I sure as hell would like to have 60 lockstepping Democrats.  If this would happen all of the Republicans I know of would be down on their knees thinking that the THE END TIMES WERE HERE.   

[Anne]

Clearly a statement from one who has no inkling surrounding economics, military operations, SOP's or government.

Clearly, I didn't run for President and make those promises, President Obama did. He made those promises either knowing he could not keep them or was so uninformed that he really thought it would be easy to  keep them. Either way what I said was true, he made promises, statements that were untrue and he couldn't keep his word. Anyone who thought about the problems of closing Gitmo, unemployment and withdrawl from Iraq were more complicated that just "doing it" is either stupid or deliberately misstating what he would do.

[me]

 

  The Democrats have never had the majority of the votes.  The Republicans always want to count the 2 indepenents as democrat votes.  With Joe Lieberman, who in hell knows which he's going to go.  He only for himself.

  But the Republicans are lucky.  Running the Democratic Party is like herding cats.  You can't get them to walk in lockstep like the Republican do with their members.

  I'm quite sure you have heard of Dixiecrats.  Republican dressed up like Democrats.  Well, now we have the same thing, some of them call themselves Blue Dog Democrats.

  With the election of Scot Brown from Massachesetts, there are 48 Democrats and 2 independents who meet with the Democrats.  But when you deal with these lockstepping Republicans who wants to destroy this country by destroying Obama, we need 60 votes on practically everything.

  I sure as hell would like to have 60 lockstepping Democrats.  If this would happen all of the Republicans I know of would be down on their knees thinking that the THE END TIMES WERE HERE.   

Sorry to prove you wrong Troll but I think you'd better do some reading up on your history.
   


http://www.georgiaencyclopedia.org/nge/Article.jsp?id=h-1366

Dixiecrats

The Dixiecrats were members of the States' Rights Democratic Party, which splintered from the Democratic Party in 1948.
Courtesy of the Strom Thurmond Institute of Government and Public Affairs, Clemson University
Strom Thurmond
The faction consisted of malcontented southern delegates to the Democratic Party who protested the insertion of a civil rights plank in the party platform and U.S. president Harry S. Truman's advocacy of that plank. Before the convention southern delegates were dismayed by Truman's 1948 executive order to desegregate the armed forces. With that backdrop many southern delegates were already concerned as they headed to the 1948 Democratic convention.

When the Democratic national convention convened in July 1948, some Alabama and Mississippi delegates were prepared to walk out of the convention if the civil rights platform passed. When it did, all of the Mississippi delegates and half of the Alabama delegates stormed out of the convention. On July 17, 1948, the Alabama and Mississippi delegations, and a few individual delegates from other southern states, met in Birmingham, Alabama, to select a presidential ticket to oppose the Democrats. The Dixiecrats chose South Carolina's governor, Strom Thurmond, for president and Fielding L. Wright, governor of Mississippi, for vice president.

The goal of the Dixiecrats was twofold. First, the splinter party hoped to deny both the Democrats and Republicans a majority in the electoral college, forcing the election into the U.S. House of Representatives.
Courtesy of the Strom Thurmond Institute of Government and Public Affairs, Clemson University
Strom Thurmond
Second, Dixiecrat leaders maneuvered to have the Thurmond-Wright ticket declared the "official" Democratic Party ticket on the ballots of all southern states. In the end this ploy succeeded only in Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, and South Carolina, all Deep South states. Georgia was the lone Deep South state to remain loyal to the national Democratic Party; the Dixiecrat ticket appeared on Georgia ballots as a third party.

On election day 1948, the Dixiecrats won Alabama, Louisiana, Mississippi, and South Carolina but failed to win any state in which Thurmond appeared as a third-party candidate. In Georgia, Thurmond came in a distant second to Truman. A closer analysis of the Dixiecrat phenomenon revealed an interesting pattern: the Dixiecrats were most successful in the states and counties where black citizens were the most numerous. The Deep South states boasted the largest black populations, and white voters in those states were the most determined to preserve racial segregation and black disenfranchisement, and thus were more likely to vote for the Dixiecrat ticket. A similar trend is evident in county-level election returns, in which Thurmond was more likely to win counties where black populations were large and white voters feared racial change. In the border South, where blacks were less abundant and white voters were less preoccupied with segregation, support for the Dixiecrat candidates was negligible.

Although the Dixiecrats immediately dissolved after the 1948 election, their impact lasted much longer. Many white voters who initially cast Dixiecrat ballots gravitated back toward the Democratic Party only grudgingly, and they remained nominal Democrats at best. Ultimately, the Dixiecrat movement paved the way for the rise of the modern Republican Party in the South. Many former Dixiecrat supporters eventually became Republicans, as was highlighted by Strom Thurmond's conversion in the 1960s.

Suggested Reading

Jack Bass and Marilyn W. Thompson, Ol' Strom: An Unauthorized Biography of Strom Thurmond (Atlanta: Longstreet, 1998).

Kari Frederickson, The Dixiecrat Revolt and the End of the Solid South, 1932-1968 (Chapel Hill: University of North Carolina Press, 2001).

V. O. Key, Southern Politics in State and Nation, new ed. (Knoxville: University of Tennessee Press, 1984).

Scott E. Buchanan, Columbus State University

Published 7/27/2004

And another one but I'm only copying and pasting part of it and you'll need to click on the link at the end of what I post to read the rest.

Southern Strategy" was born.

Hubert Humphrey

At the 1948 Democratic National Convention, a group led by Senator Hubert Humphrey of Minnesota proposed some controversial new civil rights planks of racial integration and the reversal of Jim Crow laws to be included in the party platform. Southern Democrats were dismayed. President Harry S. Truman was caught in the middle for his recent executive order to racially integrate the armed forces. As a compromise, he proposed the adoption of only those planks that had been in the 1944 platform. That was not enough for the liberals. Truman's own civil rights initiatives had made the civil rights debate unavoidable.

The planks were adopted and 35 southern Democrats walked out in protest. They formed the States' Rights Democratic Party, which became popularly known as the Dixiecrats. Their campaign slogan was "Segregation Forever!" Their platform also included "states' rights" to freedom from governmental interference in an individual's or organization's prerogative to do business with whomever they wanted. http://www.u-s-history.com/pages/h1751.html