Democrats SUCK!!

[Exterminator]

What are you talking about?

I don't know either but there's more than a little irony in her posting that when she clearly falls in the latter category.

[The Troll]

  What in hell are you talking about.  Obama has done more for the troops and veterans than any president in the last 11 years.  He got us out of Iraq, George W's war.  George W. and the Republicans actually cut veteran's benefits.  If Obama even had thought of it, he would have to get it passed by the 54 Republicans in the House.  Who vote "NO" on everything.   

  What makes you think that, talking out of your ass again.  Where did you get that, Fox News or some Right Wing blog.   


  What a bunch of freaking idiots.     

  Besides that Judge Judy is on for only 1 hour a day. 

[Palehorse]

As usual this is nothing more than an exaggeration of a proposal that the POTUS put before congress surrounding defense spending. . .

The proposal would have charged a fee for TRICARE use, to working age retirees and some other personnel.

And as Troll said, it had to go through congress for approval. . .

. . .In 1996, when TRICARE was fully implemented, a working age retiree's family of 3 who used civilian care contributed on average roughly 27 percent of the total cost of its health care. Today that percentage has dropped to only 11 percent. While health care costs have doubled or tripled over this time frame, a family's out of pocket expenses, including enrollment fees, deductibles and cost shares, has only grown by 20 percent – 30 percent.
With this in mind, in FY 2012, the Department proposed to implement a modest increase to TRICARE Prime enrollment fees for working age retirees and make small adjustments to retail and mail order pharmacy co-pays to incentivize the use of generic drugs and the most efficient source to fill prescriptions.
In FY 2013, the Department is seeking further changes phased over several years: (details are provided in Figure 5-2):
• Increase TRICARE Prime enrollment fee, institute an enrollment fee for TRICARE Standard/Extra, and increase Standard/Extra deductibles. It also adjusts the catastrophic cap to exclude enrollment fees. These changes will affect only retirees.
• Increase co-pays for pharmaceuticals (excludes active duty service members).
• Implement an enrollment fee for TRICARE-for-Life (TFL).
• Phase in fee changes over several years.
• Index fees/deductibles/Rx co-pays/catastrophic cap to reflect the growth in national health care costs.
• Exclude survivors of military members who died on active duty and medically retired members from any fee increases.
Despite these changes, DoD will continue to offer the most comprehensive health benefit, at lower cost to those it serves than most health plans in the nation – and deservedly so. Even after the proposed changes in TRICARE fees, the TRICARE benefit will remain one of the best medical benefits in the United States, with lower out-of-pocket costs than many other employers. . . .

http://comptroller.defense.gov/defbudget/fy2013/FY2013_Budget_Request_Overview_Book.pdf

[The Troll]

      She, is just chasing wind mills in her own mind.  Hee, hee, hee.  Stay out of the woods   the squirrels are hungry.  Oh Nutty. 

[me]

It's every bit as true as the BS Obama is spouting about Romney and Bain.   

[Exterminator]

It's every bit as true as the BS Obama is spouting about Romney and Bain.

If you believe that Romney was the sole stockholder of Bain and CEO, Chairman and president and drawing a salary and that he had nothing to do with that company or the decisions it was making during that time, I've got a bridge in San Fransisco I'd like to sell you.

In fact, when Romney was attempting to run for governor of Massachusetts and was attempting to establish residency requirements, he testified that he had actively sat on boards of companies that were controlled by Bain and that he had attended board meetings for those companies.  Now he wants to say he didn't.  You can't have it both ways.

[me]

If you believe that Romney was the sole stockholder of Bain and CEO, Chairman and president and drawing a salary and that he had nothing to do with that company or the decisions it was making during that time, I've got a bridge in San Fransisco I'd like to sell you.

In fact, when Romney was attempting to run for governor of Massachusetts and was attempting to establish residency requirements, he testified that he had actively sat on boards of companies that were controlled by Bain and that he had attended board meetings for those companies.  Now he wants to say he didn't.  You can't have it both ways.

Fact check has discounted both so are you saying they're wrong about one and right about the other? 

[The Troll]

If you believe that Romney was the sole stockholder of Bain and CEO, Chairman and president and drawing a salary and that he had nothing to do with that company or the decisions it was making during that time, I've got a bridge in San Fransisco I'd like to sell you.

In fact, when Romney was attempting to run for governor of Massachusetts and was attempting to establish residency requirements, he testified that he had actively sat on boards of companies that were controlled by Bain and that he had attended board meetings for those companies.  Now he wants to say he didn't.  You can't have it both ways.

  You missed one EX,  Romney claimed that he lived in his son's basement.  Which qualified his residency.     Yep, he sure did, can you imagine a multimillionaire having to live in his son's basement.       Oh what bullshitters.   

[Exterminator]

Fact check has discounted both so are you saying they're wrong about one and right about the other?

That isn't what FactCheck said; learn to read.

[The Troll]

That isn't what FactCheck said; learn to read.

  You know what, the real troll on the Zone is   There is no way that anyone in there right mind could come up with the shit comes up with.  I just think she comes up with this crap is for attention so some one will talk to her.   

  I'll bet her dad tie a pork chop around her neck so the family dog would play fetch with her.      Dad tried throwing but the dog wouldn't fetch her.   

[me]

That isn't what FactCheck said; learn to read.

I did read it.  Did you?

On the broader question of Romney's involvement with Bain during this time, we concur with Kessler's conclusion. "The Obama campaign is blowing smoke here," he says, adding "the weight of evidence suggests that Romney did in fact end active management of Bain in 1999."

ABC News' Devin Dwyer reported July 12, after the Globe's story appeared: "Team Obama does not provide any specific evidence to back up claims that Romney was actively managing Bain between 1999 and 2002."

We would reassess our judgment should somebody come up with evidence that Romney took part in specific management decisions or had any active role (not just a title) at Bain after he left to head the Olympics. But nothing we've seen directly contradicts Romney's statements — which he has certified as true under pain of federal prosecution — that he "has not had any active role" with Bain or "been involved in the operations" of Bain since then.

The Romney campaign cited our work in a recent ad to accuse President Obama of running a "dishonest campaign." The term "dishonest" is theirs, not ours, however. And we make no judgments about the personal character of either candidate, or their campaigns.

And we'll just note for the record that FactCheck.org has also found numerous instances in which Romney has also strayed from the facts in accusations against Obama. He also claimed that he created 100,000 jobs at Bain Capital — a claim we found lacked support because it took credit for jobs added by companies long after Romney had left the Bain.

But that's no excuse for the Obama campaign trying to saddle Romney with responsibility for decisions Bain made while Romney was somewhere else.

Update, July 13: The Post's Kessler awarded three of his "Pinocchios" to the Obama camp's claim that SEC filings show Romney might be guilty of a felony.

Kessler notes (among other things) that Romney's time at the Olympics was the subject of hearings before the Massachusetts Ballot Law Commission in 2002, when Democrats sought and failed to disqualify Romney as a candidate for governor on grounds that he had been living in Utah.

After holding hearings for three days, during which Romney testified, the bipartisan ballot panel unanimously adopted "findings of fact" that said Romney was employed in Massachusetts "until 1999" when he left for Utah.

http://factcheck.org/2012/07/romneys-bain-years-new-evidence-same-conclusion/

[The Troll]

  When a man is the sole owner, CEO, sole stock holder, chairman of the board.  He is responsible for what his company does.   

  Legally that is the law.  "ME" when you were in business, if one of your employees takes you business truck and crashes it into a school bus.  Who is responsible for the cost of all the damage and medical bills.   

  Guess who, you are, you're the owner of the business.      That's the law.    It is the law for Romney too. 

[me]

  When a man is the sole owner, CEO, sole stock holder, chairman of the board.  He is responsible for what his company does.   

  Legally that is the law.  "ME" when you were in business, if one of your employees takes you business truck and crashes it into a school bus.  Who is responsible for the cost of all the damage and medical bills.   

  Guess who, you are, you're the owner of the business.      That's the law.    It is the law for Romney too. 

Putting it like that then Obama is responsible for the mess we're in since he's the one in charge of things and has been for the last 3yrs.  You're also saying that factcheck is wrong soooooo you know what that means don't ya?   

[Palehorse]

Putting it like that then Obama is responsible for the mess we're in since he's the one in charge of things and has been for the last 3yrs.

[me]

Edited my post while you were posting PH....