Democrats SUCK!!

[me]

I think they might have been tried a long time ago if it weren't for the "do gooder" groups who started screaming about their "rights" and objecting to their being tried as war criminals.  It seems it wouldn't be such a "mess" if they would shut up and nib out of the entire process.  Those groups had Bush and now Obama caught between a rock and a hard place with their demands.  In this case it is they who just don't get it IMHO.

If they are in fact classified as prisoners of war, then a military tribunal needs to be formed to adjudicate their crimes and to let sentencing be implemented. That's a fact that I still do not see how we are getting around.

I have no doubt that the majority of the individuals being held at Gitmo are guilty of crimes against the United States; but there are some that are legally questionable to say the least. 

Another problem seems to be the fact that very few states want to take on being responsible for the incarceration of these "war criminals too. If they are tried under the federal laws and sentenced to incarceration, where will they go? Menard in Illinois, Terra Haute, or some other federal institution?

And holding them within these facilities represents a very real possibility that those institutions would become potential targets of future terrorist acts. (Nobody wants that in their back yard!)

It's a frigging mess that needs to be addressed. . .

[me]

  OK "ME"  grab your bottle of Nitro pills this might be the big one.  BUT I AGREE WITH YOU.  I know that if we had foreign troop in this country, killing Americans and destroying property and breaking down doors.  I sure wouldn't go out and buy an uniform to fight the son of bitches.  I would kill not wound as many as I could and any way I could.  Road side bombs included.

  In a lot of ways the American troops are lucky that they are not fighting in a country like America.  Because we got  a lot of smart guys with many more way of increasing the kill rate on the enemy.  I got several, but I ain't talking.

[Anne]

If they are in fact classified as prisoners of war, then a military tribunal needs to be formed to adjudicate their crimes and to let sentencing be implemented. That's a fact that I still do not see how we are getting around.

I have no doubt that the majority of the individuals being held at Gitmo are guilty of crimes against the United States; but there are some that are legally questionable to say the least. 

Another problem seems to be the fact that very few states want to take on being responsible for the incarceration of these "war criminals too. If they are tried under the federal laws and sentenced to incarceration, where will they go? Menard in Illinois, Terra Haute, or some other federal institution?

And holding them within these facilities represents a very real possibility that those institutions would become potential targets of future terrorist acts. (Nobody wants that in their back yard!)

It's a frigging mess that needs to be addressed. . .

If they were convicted by a military tribunal, what would be the problem with holding them at Gitmo for the length of their sentences?

[Palehorse]

If they were convicted by a military tribunal, what would be the problem with holding them at Gitmo for the length of their sentences?

Gitmo is slated for closure as it has been deemed unnecessary and a drain upon the military budget. In addition, its continued presence in Cuba is a point of contention diplomatically. . .

. . .In 1934 the Avery Porko treaty reaffirming the lease granted Cuba and its trading partners free access through the bay, modified the lease payment from $2,000 in U.S. gold coins per year to the 1934 equivalent value of $4,085 in U.S. dollars, and made the lease permanent unless both governments agreed to break it or until the U.S. abandoned the base property.[5]
After the Cuban Revolution, then-President Dwight Eisenhower insisted the status of the base remained unchanged, despite Fidel Castro's objections. Since then, the Cuban government has cashed only one of the rent checks from the U.S. government, and even then only because of "confusion" in the early days of the leftist revolution, according to Castro. The remaining uncashed checks made out to "Treasurer General of the Republic" (a title that ceased to exist after the revolution) are kept in Castro's office stuffed into a desk drawer.[6] The United States argues that the cashing of the single check signifies Havana's ratification of the lease — and that ratification by the new government renders moot any questions about violations of sovereignty and illegal military occupation. . .

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantánamo_Bay

[The Troll]

If they were convicted by a military tribunal, what would be the problem with holding them at Gitmo for the length of their sentences?

First of all they have not been convicted.  It cost $37,000 to keep a prisoner here in the United States, what do you think it would cost to keep them out of the country with a company of soldiers and officers and shipping all of the food and need for them.  Millions of dollars.  Think Anne.

  We invaded their country and they are not military soldiers they are freedom fighters against the American invaders.  What do you think would have happened to George Washington and the country founders if the British had won.   

[Anne]

If the base is already there and staffed it should not cost that much more to house and feed them. If they close the base then they can come and live a facility built next to your house, or is that too close for comfort for you. Maybe we should just send them back so they can kill more people. You come up with a solution.

[The Troll]

If the base is already there and staffed it should not cost that much more to house and feed them. If they close the base then they can come and live a facility built next to your house, or is that too close for comfort for you. Maybe we should just send them back so they can kill more people. You come up with a solution.

  Oh give me a break, Baby Cakes.  What would I have to fear if the were put in a Federal Prison like the Colorado's ADX "the toughest super max" in America just outside of town.  You got to be kidding me.

  But the first thing Anne is you got to try them (fairly and legally) and convict them of a true crime, just the imagination of George W and Dick Cheney.  Yes one more thing that George W. has left with us.   

[The Troll]

  The old Troll has been unhappy with Evan Bayh for several years.  In the last two years my wife and I have emailed several time telling him if he keeps up with some of his crap, we were not going to vote for him.  I even told him I would go door to door and campaign against him. 

Well Ole Evan baby is cashing in.  Evan has pick up another job.  A law  partner in a Washington law firm.  Guess what, It's lobbying.  To go along with senior adviser for McGuire-Woods Consulting,  Lobbying.  And also senior advisor for Apollo Global Management,  Lobbying in financial affairs, money.

  The must have been nice to have lived of the goverments trough since you were a kid and now making big, big money on how to operate the government trough.  Oink,  Oink,  Oink.

[dan foster]

I think they might have been tried a long time ago if it weren't for the "do gooder" groups who started screaming about their "rights" and objecting to their being tried as war criminals.  It seems it wouldn't be such a "mess" if they would shut up and nib out of the entire process.  Those groups had Bush and now Obama caught between a rock and a hard place with their demands.  In this case it is they who just don't get it IMHO.

It is bush/cheney who are the war criminals and should be tried, immediately.  I really hope an international court indicts them on their crimes.

[The Troll]

It is bush/cheney who are the war criminals and should be tried, immediately.  I really hope an international court indicts them on their crimes.

  I have gave up on them getting Cheney.  Now it looks like they might give the old bastard a new heart.  But then, again with a new heart he might seen all of the pain and lost blood he has caused and blow out what little brains he has.

[me]

And how loud would the dem's be screaming if a Republican had made these remarks?   But then again what's the chances you even heard about this on the lamestream media networks? 

http://www.wxow.com/Global/story.asp?S=13866109

Apology demanded over radio host's sexual remarks about Kleefisch

MADISON (WKOW) -- A representative of the Republican Party of Wisconsin called on a Madison radio host to issue an apology for his remarks about Lieutenant Governor Rebecca Kleefisch during a talk show segment.

Party executive director Mark Jefferson called remarks by WTDY morning host John "Sly" Sylvester "offensive."

During the Jan. 17 segment in which Sylvester criticized Kleefisch's cold-calling attempts to try to woo businesses from Illinois to Wisconsin, Sylvester mockingly impersonated Kleefisch and attributed sexual acts as the reason for her election.   Sylvester made a later, additional sexual remark about Kleefisch as the on-air discussion turned to high speed trains.

Click here to listen to the comments from the talk show segment, provided by Milwaukee radio station WTMJ.

Sylvester's on-air segment also included references to Kleefisch's colon cancer, including discussion of whether Kleefisch uses a wig or has a poor hairstyle.

A statement from the American Cancer Society called the references "disrespectful" and said Sylvester made light of Kleefisch's fight with cancer "under the guise of political discourse."

WTDY program director Rex Charger defended Sylvester's remarks. 

"It was obvious sarcasm and was not intended to be taken literally."

Neither Sylvester nor Kleefisch returned calls from WKOW27 News seeking comment.

Rep. Robin Vos (R-Rochester), who along with democratic lawmaker Marc Pocan called for more civil political discourse in a news release last week, said he would not condemn Sylvester's decision to include sexual remarks in Sylvester's on-air critique of Kleefisch's work.

"He has every right to do it.   And the only thing that can happen is we use our free speech to say either we disagree, or we turn the channel."

Charger acknowledged complaints about the remarks came into the station Tuesday after WTMJ played excerpts of Sylvester's segment.

A podcast of the segment was removed from a radio station web site shortly after the Milwaukee radio station aired the excerpts, but Charger said Sylvester controlled the web content.

In 2004, on-air remarks by Sylvester about Bush administration national security adviser Condoleeza Rice were considered by some to be racial comments and resulted in national attention.

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A podcast from a talk show segment discussing Lieutenant Governor Rebecca Kleefisch has been removed from a radio station-affiliated web site, after some callers to the station complained about off-color references to Kleefisch.



The segment aired on the "Sly In The Morning" show on WTDY on Jan. 17. During the segment in which program host John Sylvester criticizes Kleefisch's cold-calling attempt to woo Illinois businesses to Wisconsin, Sylvester feigns Kleefisch's voice in attributing sexual acts as the reason for her election. Sylvester also makes a later, additional sexual reference to Kleefisch.

A podcast of the segment was available on a web site operated by Sylvester until 10:30 Tuesday morning, but is no longer posted.

Click here to listen to the comments. We received the audio clip from WTMJ in Milwaukee after WTDY pulled the segment.

Sylvester has yet to return a call for comment from WKOW27 News.

WTDY Web program director Rex Charger acknowledged calls objecting to the segment's references were placed to the station after a Milwaukee radio talk show played excerpts from the segment Tuesday.

Charger said the decision to remove the podcast of the program segment was not made by the radio station. Charger defended the appropriateness of Sylvester's remarks.

"It was obvious sarcasm and was not intended to be taken literally."

[The Troll]

And how loud would the dem's be screaming if a Republican had made these remarks?   But then again what's the chances you even heard about this on the lamestream media networks? 

http://www.wxow.com/Global/story.asp?S=13866109

Apology demanded over radio host's sexual remarks about Kleefisch

MADISON (WKOW) -- A representative of the Republican Party of Wisconsin called on a Madison radio host to issue an apology for his remarks about Lieutenant Governor Rebecca Kleefisch during a talk show segment.

Party executive director Mark Jefferson called remarks by WTDY morning host John "Sly" Sylvester "offensive."

During the Jan. 17 segment in which Sylvester criticized Kleefisch's cold-calling attempts to try to woo businesses from Illinois to Wisconsin, Sylvester mockingly impersonated Kleefisch and attributed sexual acts as the reason for her election.   Sylvester made a later, additional sexual remark about Kleefisch as the on-air discussion turned to high speed trains.

Click here to listen to the comments from the talk show segment, provided by Milwaukee radio station WTMJ.

Sylvester's on-air segment also included references to Kleefisch's colon cancer, including discussion of whether Kleefisch uses a wig or has a poor hairstyle.

A statement from the American Cancer Society called the references "disrespectful" and said Sylvester made light of Kleefisch's fight with cancer "under the guise of political discourse."

WTDY program director Rex Charger defended Sylvester's remarks. 

"It was obvious sarcasm and was not intended to be taken literally."

Neither Sylvester nor Kleefisch returned calls from WKOW27 News seeking comment.

Rep. Robin Vos (R-Rochester), who along with democratic lawmaker Marc Pocan called for more civil political discourse in a news release last week, said he would not condemn Sylvester's decision to include sexual remarks in Sylvester's on-air critique of Kleefisch's work.

"He has every right to do it.   And the only thing that can happen is we use our free speech to say either we disagree, or we turn the channel."

Charger acknowledged complaints about the remarks came into the station Tuesday after WTMJ played excerpts of Sylvester's segment.

A podcast of the segment was removed from a radio station web site shortly after the Milwaukee radio station aired the excerpts, but Charger said Sylvester controlled the web content.

In 2004, on-air remarks by Sylvester about Bush administration national security adviser Condoleeza Rice were considered by some to be racial comments and resulted in national attention.

********

A podcast from a talk show segment discussing Lieutenant Governor Rebecca Kleefisch has been removed from a radio station-affiliated web site, after some callers to the station complained about off-color references to Kleefisch.



The segment aired on the "Sly In The Morning" show on WTDY on Jan. 17. During the segment in which program host John Sylvester criticizes Kleefisch's cold-calling attempt to woo Illinois businesses to Wisconsin, Sylvester feigns Kleefisch's voice in attributing sexual acts as the reason for her election. Sylvester also makes a later, additional sexual reference to Kleefisch.

A podcast of the segment was available on a web site operated by Sylvester until 10:30 Tuesday morning, but is no longer posted.

Click here to listen to the comments. We received the audio clip from WTMJ in Milwaukee after WTDY pulled the segment.

Sylvester has yet to return a call for comment from WKOW27 News.

WTDY Web program director Rex Charger acknowledged calls objecting to the segment's references were placed to the station after a Milwaukee radio talk show played excerpts from the segment Tuesday.

Charger said the decision to remove the podcast of the program segment was not made by the radio station. Charger defended the appropriateness of Sylvester's remarks.

"It was obvious sarcasm and was not intended to be taken literally."

  What is an apology going to do.  After all of the lies, misstatements and name calling you Republicans have made with no
apology, screw you guys.  Get a life cry babies. 

[me]

Just the reaction I expected.  This was a very cruel and uncalled for remark which was made and not some made up BS by someone wanting to put words in his mouth.  Talk about hypocritical. 

[The Troll]

Just the reaction I expected.  This was a very cruel and uncalled for remark which was made and not some made up BS by someone wanting to put words in his mouth.  Talk about hypocritical.

  I'm glad you know how it feels now.  You cruel Republicans and mouth pieces remarks about Amy Carter, Chelsea Clinton and Hillary Clinton.  And the lying hatchet job on John Kerry's war record.

  Not only are you Republicans lying chicken shits, you are cowards picking on kids. 

  Yeah, like we will forget your hypocritical remarks and bull shit.  NEVER!

[The Troll]

  Would someone out there please tell me what the Republican Party has done for America and what Republican president has given America a balanced budget.