Obama"s next job. Foreign illegal ailens or changing NAFTA, WTO trade deals?

[The Troll]

   With the Healthcare bill behind us.  Should our next fight be with the illegal ailens or change the hemridge of our jobs and money going overseas.  Buying cheap, rotten, lead poisoned food and toys at Walmart and all of the other places.  You can't hardly find anything made in the USA.

   Cheating on the value of their money "VAT" tax on our products and paying slave wages to their people.  With the predatory super-rich capitalist corporations moving the companies off shore and charging the American the same price for goods, as if it was made in the USA.

  I would like to see the person and persons who said. "WE DON'T NEED MANUFACTURING FACTORIES IN THIS COUNTRY.  WE NEED HIGH TECH JOBS THAT REQUIRE HIGHLY EDUCATED PEOPLE.  What I would like to ask these educated assholes.  Hey, buddy we're loosing high tech jobs, what are we going to do now.  Cricket, Cricket, Cricket.  We couldn't even fight a war.  We don't have the manufacturing.  Duh, Duh.  When are the working people stand up to the Republican predatory rich capitalist.  What are we going to do about it?

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[me]

Obama's working on an amnesty program so there won't be any illegals taking our jobs they'll all be legal.

[Palehorse]

Obama's working on an amnesty program so there won't be any illegals taking our jobs they'll all be legal.

Source?????

[me]

I'll see if I can find it again.  I ran across it yesterday or day before while looking for something else and my only reaction then was, "oh great that's all we need". 

[The Troll]

   The jobs the illegal aliens are taking are nothing compared to China, Japan, India and many more countries.  I get so sick of you racist assholes.  I know that if we start getting some of the jobs you damn Republican free traders have lost for us, we would be in hell of a lot better than we are now.

  I know that you driving your foreign car, using foregin oil, to Walmart buying Chinese goods, using slave labor to you advantage, it would probably ruin you precious day, "ME".

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[me]

   The jobs the illegal aliens are taking are nothing compared to China, Japan, India and many more countries.  I get so sick of you racist assholes.  I know that if we start getting some of the jobs you damn Republican free traders have lost for us, we would be in hell of a lot better than we are now.

  I know that you driving your foreign car, using foregin oil, to Walmart buying Chinese goods, using slave labor to you advantage, it would probably ruin you precious day, "ME".

The Troll 

I have a Chrysler van, don't go to Wal-Mart unless forced, and I am not an employer of anyone slave labor or otherwise.

[The Troll]

Well, that's GOOD.  I have F250 super duty, crew cab, V10 Ford truck and Ford Escape 4 cyl.. One for power and pulling and one's for good gas mileage.  I sure in hell don't shop at Walmart.  Strange bed fellows.

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[Palehorse]

I have a diesel powered Chevrolet 2500HD, and a Pontiac GT Coupe.

I shop where ever they take money and stock the things I need, because the people that work there are Americans and need jobs too.

[me]

I have a diesel powered Chevrolet 2500HD, and a Pontiac GT Coupe.

I shop where ever they take money and stock the things I need, because the people that work there are Americans and need jobs too.

[The Troll]

Yeah, those poor people need a job, they also need a union.  Walmart has an employee turn over of over 53%, each year.  They really know how to get employees to quit and fire them.  Just like a greased slide.  It really sound like they care.  But Walmart is a kind company, they teach their employees how to get free taxpayer paid healthcare.

  I just love the way they move into an area, where they can suck all of the business out all of the surrounding towns, closing down small business, paying their employees minimum wages and no benefits except to their salary suckasses.  Then sending all of the profits to Arkansas.  My god what a great company.  Best of all 90% of the shit they sell is made in Communist China.

  Remember when we spent Billions and Billions of dollars, in the Cold War fighting against communism.  We're still fighting it in poor little Cuba.

  Let's us stop out sourcing jobs, so we can buy quality products from the USA.

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[me]

Yeah, those poor people need a job, they also need a union.  Walmart has an employee turn over of over 53%, each year.  They really know how to get employees to quit and fire them.  Just like a greased slide.  It really sound like they care.  But Walmart is a kind company, they teach their employees how to get free taxpayer paid healthcare.

  I just love the way they move into an area, where they can suck all of the business out all of the surrounding towns, closing down small business, paying their employees minimum wages and no benefits except to their salary suckasses.  Then sending all of the profits to Arkansas.  My god what a great company.  Best of all 90% of the shit they sell is made in Communist China.

  Remember when we spent Billions and Billions of dollars, in the Cold War fighting against communism.  We're still fighting it in poor little Cuba.

  Let's us stop out sourcing jobs, so we can buy quality products from the USA.

The Troll

No, they don't need a union.  I know people who work for Wal Mart and they are treated just fine.  You are, once again, listening to the BS.  If you shop at Sams Club or Lowe's you are shopping at companies owned by Wal Mart.  Did you know that? 

[The Troll]

   "Me"  I hate to say this to you,  THAT YOU SAID IS A GOD DAMN LIE.  FLAT OUT.  You sure don't know what in hell you are talking about.  "Oh, I have friends who thinks working for Walmart is great".  Plus what would a scab know about an union.  The only people who don't like unions are, people who has never had a union job or an owner or a member of management who is made to treat their employees with respect and can't shit on them.  Are one of these people?

  I have seen and heard of what the scabby Walmart does to their people. Seen it with my own eyes and heard it with my own ears.  Aren't you the person who said just a little while ago say that  you didn't shop Walmart.  That is the main reason I DON'T SHOP WALMART AND LOWES.  Sweetheart you sure don't know what in hell you're talking about.

  "ME" you're just talking BULLSHIT.  Did I explain to you how I really feel and about you, Walmart and Lowe's?  Honey.

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[me]

   "Me"  I hate to say this to you,  THAT YOU SAID IS A GOD DAMN LIE.  FLAT OUT.  You sure don't know what in hell you are talking about.  "Oh, I have friends who thinks working for Walmart is great".  Plus what would a scab know about an union.  The only people who don't like unions are, people who has never had a union job or an owner or a member of management who is made to treat their employees with respect and can't shit on them.  Are one of these people?

  I have seen and heard of what the scabby Walmart does to their people. Seen it with my own eyes and heard it with my own ears.  Aren't you the person who said just a little while ago say that  you didn't shop Walmart.  That is the main reason I DON'T SHOP WALMART AND LOWES.  Sweetheart you sure don't know what in hell you're talking about.

  "ME" you're just talking BULLSHIT.  Did I explain to you how I really feel and about you, Walmart and Lowe's?  Honey.

  The Troll 

Excuse me......I know plenty about unions like how they won't let the company fire people who blatantly break rules like not drinking on the job, not showing up for work except for 2 or 3 days a week and showing up late on those days, threatening people who don't want to join, making people who chose not to join pay the dues anyway...want more?  I can give examples of people I know who have done or experienced these things.  It is fact not BS so don't call me a liar and don't assume I know nothing about unions because I do.  My ex was in one for over 30yrs and I have friends who worked at Guide and Delco so back off that BS buddy. 

[LOsborne]

I know people who work for Wal Mart and they are treated just fine.

They are probably satisfied if they were represented by one of the recent class action settlements.

March 3, 2010, Kentucky, $12 million, employment discrimination
http://walmartstores.com/pressroom/news/9677.aspx

Feb 16, 2010, Nevada, $85 million, unpaid work hours, and retirement benefit fraud
http://www.startribune.com/business/35819094.html

Dec. 2, 2009, Massachusetts, $40 million, unpaid overtime
http://www.boston.com/news/local/massachusetts/articles/2009/12/03/wal_mart_will_pay_40m_to_workers/

Dec. 9, 2008, Minnesota, $54 million, unpaid work hours
http://www.startribune.com/business/35819094.html

Dec. 23, 2008, South Carolina, $49 million, wage and hour violations
http://walmartstores.com/pressroom/news/8985.aspx

There are more, but I doubt you will even read the five I have presented. You wouldn't want to get confused by the (documented) facts.

[me]

The only suits I know for sure about are BS ones.  Both the Wal Mart in Fl and the one here won't allow employees to work off the clock or even assist anyone, or at least the people I know who work at both told me that and I'm sure they would know.  I'm sure the rules don't vary that much from store to store.  They, like K-Mart used to be, lease some of the departments to other companies which are supervised a little different, but not much, different than the rest of the store.  One of the people I know has worked under some different supervisors some of which expected way too much from their employee's and didn't last long and the other 5 I know have had similar experiences in the departments they work in. Two of them work in the pharmacy, one in Muncie and the other in Fl, and the others worked in the general store and have for several years.