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LMFAO!! How's this all you Carrie Prejean defenders?

Started by Locutus, November 06, 2009, 02:34:08 PM

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Exterminator

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Locutus

Quote from: Anne on November 22, 2009, 06:46:19 PM
All have strong mission emphasis and all are tolerant of most people.

Ask 'em how the feel about:

1. Gay marriage
2. Abortion
3. Alcohol sales on Sunday
4. Evolution being taught in schools.

I think if you fully explored their feelings, I think you would find their "tolerance" to be short lived. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Exterminator

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

dan foster

Quote from: Exterminator on November 22, 2009, 07:47:37 PM
Tolerance in action!

I think you will find most of us, including this atheist, don't really have a problem with mainstream religion (except the terrible waste in resources, including their tax dodging), but it is the fundamentalists of those religions; evangelical types of all creeds.

It is funny that all your mainstream religions are christian based.  That might be true in the US, but not so for the rest of the world. 
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

Anne

OK, gay marriage, most churches don't approve of gay marriage but no one I know have a problem with homosexual people or with civil unions, alcohol sales in general or on Sunday seems to be more of a personal issue than a religious one as people in the same church have different views, I have met no one in my church or any of the others I have spoken to who have a problem with evolution being taught in school. Abortion again seems to be more of a personal issue than a religious one with the people I talk with. I know some denominations can be more intense than others and all denominations and churches have some persons who are rigid in their beliefs, but I do not think that is the norm, they just get the most press while the rest of the people try to make the world a better place.

Ex: At this time the US most mainstreat religions are Christian and that is mainly what we deal with here and what we were discussing. If I lived in the middle east or Africa I would be talking about the religions prevalent in those areas.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

pariann

And tell me....how do people come to believe what they believe?

There is definitely some mind control there.
Looks like I've come full circle.

Locutus

There's a LOT of mind control there; it also starts early. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Anne

I don't know how anyone else comes to their beliefs, how did you come to your beliefs? Are you pro life, pro choice, against drinking, mercy killing, smoking, card playing, gambling, dancing? I would think most people form their opinions through personal experience, have they been affected by one of these things or by their association with different groups or family members. I am pro choice to a point, don't believe in mercy killing, think suicide is selfish, don't mind a social drinker, love to dance, play cards, don't like to be around smoke, and don't have a problem with gambling unless it causes harm to the person or their family.

I think organized religion has a place in society. Most churches do a lot of good in their communities. There are a lot of food pantries, financial aid, and other support that would not be available if the churches and their outreach programs were not in place.


In case I haven't mentioned it I did not grow up in a go to church environment. I grew up in a very upper middle class family and we were not particularly religious.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

Exterminator

Quote from: Anne on November 22, 2009, 10:42:44 PM
Ex: At this time the US most mainstreat religions are Christian and that is mainly what we deal with here and what we were discussing. If I lived in the middle east or Africa I would be talking about the religions prevalent in those areas.

Uh...are you sure you responded to the right person?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Palehorse

R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

followsthewolf

Ignorance and fanaticism are ravenous. They require constant feeding.

Palehorse

R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

pariann

Yeah, I've had that ...... no matter what color, you still slide off the bed.  :wink:
Looks like I've come full circle.

Palehorse

Quote from: pariann on November 23, 2009, 12:52:20 PM
Yeah, I've had that ...... no matter what color, you still slide off the bed.  :wink:

It'll make your hair all poofy too!  :biggrin:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville