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Exterminator

#75
October 12, 2009, 02:32:25 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 12, 2009, 02:16:03 PM
Peace through Stregnth...............we had the greatest peace time.....with THIS diplomatic policy.

Shallow acts of aggression and bravado are the realm of the weak; strong people and nations don't need to rely on such antics.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

#76
October 12, 2009, 02:33:20 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on October 12, 2009, 02:29:09 PM
Obama accomplished more in one day of diplomatic talks with Iran than Bush accomplished in 8 years of puffing out his little, *****-boy chest.

time will tell.... :yes:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

#77
October 12, 2009, 02:34:25 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on October 12, 2009, 02:32:25 PM
Shallow acts of aggression and bravado are the realm of the weak; strong people and nations don't need to rely on such antics.

do you have an example of such a nation?
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

#78
October 12, 2009, 02:35:30 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 12, 2009, 02:34:25 PM
do you have an example of such a nation?

Iraq
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Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

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Exterminator

#79
October 12, 2009, 02:35:48 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on October 12, 2009, 02:20:40 PM
Nothing is gained via the killing of human beings; only through dialog is progress obtained.

Henry apparently doesn't understand that his hero, Reagan, lived by this belief.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Palehorse

#80
October 12, 2009, 02:37:45 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on October 12, 2009, 02:35:48 PM
Henry apparently doesn't understand that his hero, Reagan, lived by this belief.

Indeed he did; and it is the reason I admired the man.  :yes:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

#81
October 12, 2009, 02:38:40 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on October 12, 2009, 02:35:48 PM
Henry apparently doesn't understand that his hero, Reagan, lived by this belief.

I completely understand....and it was HE, who was able to be diplamatic, WITH a strong military....and the killing of human beings does NOT have to take place....
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#82
October 12, 2009, 02:39:48 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 12, 2009, 02:38:40 PM
I completely understand....and it was HE, who was able to be diplamatic, WITH a strong military....and the killing of human beings does NOT have to take place....

Everything you seem to advocate suggests otherwise.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

#83
October 12, 2009, 02:40:26 PM
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

#84
October 12, 2009, 02:41:44 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on October 12, 2009, 02:39:48 PM
Everything you seem to advocate suggests otherwise.

please tell me WHAT I advocate.......the fact we attacked Iraq?
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#85
October 12, 2009, 02:46:01 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 12, 2009, 02:40:26 PM
please elaborate...

Iraq was a weak country that acted tough.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

#86
October 12, 2009, 02:47:11 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 12, 2009, 02:41:44 PM
please tell me WHAT I advocate.......the fact we attacked Iraq?

For one, yes and you consistently espouse a confrontational stance over a diplomatic one.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

#87
October 12, 2009, 02:47:52 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on October 12, 2009, 02:46:01 PM
Iraq was a weak country that acted tough.

strong people and nations don't need to rely on such antics
this was the part of the equation I was referring too...
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

#88
October 12, 2009, 02:48:48 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on October 12, 2009, 02:47:11 PM
For one, yes and you consistently espouse a confrontational stance over a diplomatic one.

I think THAT depends upon the situation.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

#89
October 12, 2009, 02:49:11 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 12, 2009, 02:40:26 PM
please elaborate...

What was accomplished there relative to the stated purpose for the initiative? Answer that question truthfully and you will understand its relevance. (Leave out the moral victories that may have been achieved via collateral damage, since they were not the stated purpose).


  • No weapons of Mass Destruction
  • No Insurgents or training camps until well into the initiative, when they were moved there.
  • Thousands of lives lost for what
  • The good men and women of our nations military placed into harms way, for what?
  • Iraq was weaker than North Korea, yet we attacked them anyway.
  • The initiative effectively trashed our diplomatic efficiency and reputation world-wide, which is a huge bottle-neck toward progress that is rightly recognized and being corrected by the current POTUS!

And all of this to shut a bully up? Why?
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville
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