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Started by Palehorse, October 01, 2009, 02:41:52 PM

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Exterminator

#15
October 06, 2009, 10:38:21 AM
Quote from: Palehorse on October 05, 2009, 06:04:47 PM
If 6 months of my urine and turds are worth $789.00, I think I'll start crapping and pissing in a bucket.

Good idea and then take the bucket down to city hall to empty it!   :icon_twisted:
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me

#16
October 06, 2009, 11:01:47 AM
Quote from: Exterminator on October 06, 2009, 10:38:21 AM
Good idea and then take the bucket down to city hall to empty it!   :icon_twisted:
:icon_twisted:
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Palehorse

#17
October 06, 2009, 12:33:11 PM
Humm. . .

In the course of discussing this problem with people I now understand that the electronic meters communicate via a signal that is supposed to be picked up by the grid of transducers that have been installed throughout the city in various locations. Now I don't know yet what these transducers look like, but yesterday evening what appeared to be a city utility truck appeared across the road from our subdivision.

It was stopped at a utility pole there. (Our subdivision has no utility poles since everything is underground.) When I heard the sound of hammering I looked over to see him attaching a white barrel shaped device to the pole at about chest height. It is about the size of a propane tank for a gas fired grill, and has what appears to be a thick black umbilical coming from it. I assume this to be the wiring for whatever it is, but it is not hooked up yet. I wonder if they've finally got around to installing one of these transducers close to our subdivision???
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Y

#18
October 19, 2009, 08:00:11 PM
And it's getting worse for everyone in Madison County.

http://www.theheraldbulletin.com/local/local_story_292192303.html

Published October 19, 2009 07:15 pm - ALEXANDRIA - The Alexandria City Council voted 6-1 to increase the county option income tax on Monday.

Alexandria Council OKs tax increase


The Herald Bulletin

ALEXANDRIA - The Alexandria City Council voted 6-1 to increase the county option income tax on Monday.

Carol Walker, the newest member of the council, cast the only "no" vote.

Anderson City Council voted in favor earlier this month. Elwood City Council and Madison County Council have set meetings for Oct. 26 to consider the tax increase. If either council votes in favor, the COIT will be adopted.
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"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Y

#19
October 19, 2009, 08:01:39 PM
Anyone wish to take any wagers this is a 'done deal'?
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

me

#20
October 19, 2009, 09:10:56 PM
I'd say it is.  They have to pay for the new Ivy Tech building some way.   :mad:
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Palehorse

#21
October 19, 2009, 09:29:19 PM
Rotten thieves are going to continue to rob us blind!  :mad:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Palehorse

#22
December 03, 2009, 07:49:14 PM
In the interest of fairness I am updating this topic.

I opened my utility bill today and found a 33% credit, leaving me with zero balance due and another 165 bucks on the account.

I am thankful that this correction was provided to me, and at the time of year when it is certainly most appreciated; especially now.

I don't know who is responsible but my thanks to them for it.

Since the initial complaint I have not received another estimated bill, and believe me it is one of the first things I look at after the amount due.  :smile:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

me

#23
December 03, 2009, 08:12:50 PM
That is great. 
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Henry Hawk

#24
December 03, 2009, 08:54:02 PM
yes virginia, there IS a Santa Clause.... :razz:

That is awesome news PH.... :yes:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


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"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

#25
January 16, 2011, 06:25:11 PM
A new year and I see the same old bologna is underway at the city utility offices. An article in the Herald Bulletin reports on yet another large group of the citizens of this city being victimized just as I was back in August of 2009.

The same old reasons for explaining it away are still being used by the city too. This is nothing but a bunch of bullcrap and someone had better get on top of this situation in a damned hurry!  :mad: :mad: :mad:

Since I had my experience I have read, and kept copies of, every single bill I have received; and thus far I have had no additional estimated readings. . .

http://heraldbulletin.com/local/x1221291770/Electric-bills-shock-customers
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

me

#26
January 16, 2011, 06:28:12 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on January 16, 2011, 06:25:11 PM
A new year and I see the same old bologna is underway at the city utility offices. An article in the Herald Bulletin reports on yet another large group of the citizens of this city being victimized just as I was back in August of 2009.

The same old reasons for explaining it away are still being used by the city too. This is nothing but a bunch of bullcrap and someone had better get on top of this situation in a damned hurry!  :mad: :mad: :mad:

Since I had my experience I have read, and kept copies of, every single bill I have received; and thus far I have had no additional estimated readings. . .

http://heraldbulletin.com/local/x1221291770/Electric-bills-shock-customers
You should do the same with the gas company too...Definitely learn to read those meters so you can call them on it if they say it's an actual read and you know better.   :wink:
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Palehorse

#27
January 16, 2011, 06:33:00 PM
Quote from: me on January 16, 2011, 06:28:12 PM
You should do the same with the gas company too...Definitely learn to read those meters so you can call them on it if they say it's an actual read and you know better.   :wink:

Believe me, I do!
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Y

#28
January 21, 2011, 01:21:04 PM
Quote from: Palehorse on January 16, 2011, 06:25:11 PM
A new year and I see the same old bologna is underway at the city utility offices. An article in the Herald Bulletin reports on yet another large group of the citizens of this city being victimized just as I was back in August of 2009.

The same old reasons for explaining it away are still being used by the city too. This is nothing but a bunch of bullcrap and someone had better get on top of this situation in a damned hurry!  :mad: :mad: :mad:

Since I had my experience I have read, and kept copies of, every single bill I have received; and thus far I have had no additional estimated readings. . .

http://heraldbulletin.com/local/x1221291770/Electric-bills-shock-customers

You know from whence these continuing problems originate don't you?  The meters and the software were purchased by the last administration - Kevin Smith's administration - and the system is experimental, expensive, and faulty and AFAIK has NEVER worked correctly.  A VERY bad move from Smith for Anderson.

Now where I can find fault with the current administration - Kris Ockomon's administration - is that I'm unaware that there is anything being done to either force the company to replace/repair/remove the faulty meters and software and or get a refund and damages so the city can return to the old mechanical meters.
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

me

#29
January 21, 2011, 01:52:54 PM
Quote from: Y on January 21, 2011, 01:21:04 PM
You know from whence these continuing problems originate don't you?  The meters and the software were purchased by the last administration - Kevin Smith's administration - and the system is experimental, expensive, and faulty and AFAIK has NEVER worked correctly.  A VERY bad move from Smith for Anderson.

Now where I can find fault with the current administration - Kris Ockomon's administration - is that I'm unaware that there is anything being done to either force the company to replace/repair/remove the faulty meters and software and or get a refund and damages so the city can return to the old mechanical meters.
Ockey changed the software when he took over to supposedly make things easier.  Going to the utility office is now a joke.  Even the people who work there don't like it.
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