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Started by Sandy Eggo, September 16, 2009, 06:58:37 AM

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Sandy Eggo

#15
September 16, 2009, 07:42:25 AM
Hopefully Michelle's not tellin' :biggrin:

BTW, it's all good. I think I've zeroed in on some rightwing hypocrisy and I'm just having some fun with it.  ;D
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

pariann

#16
September 16, 2009, 07:46:15 AM
I'm sure that there are some gossip rags that would pay big money if she would!  :wink:
Looks like I've come full circle.

Henry Hawk

#17
September 16, 2009, 08:28:17 AM
Sandy, I heard the clip where Obama made his remark about Kayne...and I thought it was funny...I liked Obama asking the press to "give the president a break"...I laughed with him on that one.
But this is NO comparison to the Crowley incident.....THERE, he was at a press conference and asked directly...AND he said, "without having the facts"...then made an outrageous comment, that he SHOULD have kept to himself, at least until he DID have the facts....

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

pariann

#18
September 16, 2009, 08:35:15 AM
See what I mean.... 'keep your opinions to yourself'.   And yes I see the qualifier of until he did have the facts.  Doesn't change the perception that unless it's a government issue, it seems a lot of the general public do not want to hear the human side of a politician when it comes to opinions.
Looks like I've come full circle.

Henry Hawk

#19
September 16, 2009, 08:43:12 AM
Quote from: pariann on September 16, 2009, 08:35:15 AM
See what I mean.... 'keep your opinions to yourself'.   And yes I see the qualifier of until he did have the facts.  Doesn't change the perception that unless it's a government issue, it seems a lot of the general public do not want to hear the human side of a politician when it comes to opinions.

but it was wrong for Senator Joe Wilson to say "you lie" to the POTUS?....
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#20
September 16, 2009, 08:47:25 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 16, 2009, 08:28:17 AM
Sandy, I heard the clip where Obama made his remark about Kayne...and I thought it was funny...I liked Obama asking the press to "give the president a break"...I laughed with him on that one.
But this is NO comparison to the Crowley incident.....THERE, he was at a press conference and asked directly...AND he said, "without having the facts"...then made an outrageous comment, that he SHOULD have kept to himself, at least until he DID have the facts....

Give it a rest, bigot; you've already demonstrated a profound lack of understanding of law enforcement procedures on this subject.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

#21
September 16, 2009, 08:48:14 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 16, 2009, 08:43:12 AM
but it was wrong for Senator Joe Wilson to say "you lie" to the POTUS?....

Yes, you moron.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

#22
September 16, 2009, 08:50:40 AM
Quote from: Exterminator on September 16, 2009, 08:47:25 AM
Give it a rest, bigot; you've already demonstrated a profound lack of understanding of law enforcement procedures on this subject.

I'm not going to let your punkass bother me today....all I'm saying is, the POTUS spoke without the facts....and he admitted it before he spoke.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

#23
September 16, 2009, 08:51:16 AM
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

pariann

#24
September 16, 2009, 08:59:55 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 16, 2009, 08:43:12 AM
but it was wrong for Senator Joe Wilson to say "you lie" to the POTUS?....
Is saying someone is lying an opinion, or an accusation?   Did he have the facts to determine that Obama may have been lying?  He should have kept his opinion to himself until he had all the facts.   You can't stand up in front of, how many people? 300?  And tell a lie if they all know what's intended in the plan.
Looks like I've come full circle.

Henry Hawk

#25
September 16, 2009, 09:05:57 AM
Quote from: pariann on September 16, 2009, 08:59:55 AM
Is saying someone is lying an opinion, or an accusation?   Did he have the facts to determine that Obama may have been lying?  He should have kept his opinion to himself until he had all the facts.   You can't stand up in front of, how many people? 300?  And tell a lie if they all know what's intended in the plan.

I'm not defending Wilson...I'm making a point....how about the POTUS saying Crowely "Acted Stupidly" in a press conference on National TV?  should he have kept his opinion to himself?...(without ANY facts?)
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

pariann

#26
September 16, 2009, 09:20:48 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 16, 2009, 09:05:57 AM
I'm not defending Wilson...I'm making a point....how about the POTUS saying Crowely "Acted Stupidly" in a press conference on National TV?  should he have kept his opinion to himself?...(without ANY facts?)
I'll say it once again......the general public expects higher standards of people in authority and forget that those people are actually only as human as the rest of the nation. This is a type of hypocrisy if you ask me.  EVERYONE has a moment of saying something that they regret saying later.  Imagine not being prepared to answer a specific question because it has absolutely nothing to do with the job you were hired to do and you find you do have an immediate opinion on what you do know so far.  Are you, Henry, going to say No Comment, or are you going to voice that opinion? Being, Henry, you most likely are going to voice it, and then you may qualify it by saying that you don't know all the facts, you may go even further and say you might change your mind on your opinion once you know more.  As a human being, sometimes we say things that we mean, or feel at the moment, but on reflection figure we probably shouldn't have said.   I'm sorry but being a politician, public figure, or celebrity doesn't automatically give us grace when we speak from emotion.
Looks like I've come full circle.

Sandy Eggo

#27
September 16, 2009, 09:39:36 AM
The real difference for rightwingdings?  IMO

Crowley - Obama's opinion was in favor of a black man.

West - Obama's opinion was in favor of a white girl.



Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

kimmi

#28
September 16, 2009, 09:43:48 AM
I just want to know what Kanye's reaction to the president is going to be.  I mean he stated that Bush hates all black people.  I guess he won't be able to say that about Obama right?  :biggrin:
Take time to smell the roses.

Sandy Eggo

#29
September 16, 2009, 09:45:57 AM
That was before Kanye lost his mind :biggrin:
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous
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