Who are the undeserving "others" benefiting from expanded government actions?

[pariann]

How do you know they weren't even looked at?   Because they weren't accepted, doesn't mean that they weren't looked at.  That could well be more propaganda. We only know what they TELL us.  That's both sides of the aisle.

[Anne]

Maybe the Democrats should say they read the Republican proposals and tell why they didn't like them.

[LOsborne]

Maybe the Democrats should say they read the Republican proposals and tell why they didn't like them.

Well, personally I was terribly upset at the "euthanasia draperies."

[LOsborne]

I have read 1.5 million to 150,000....I have NO reliable source...I just picked the biggest one, of course... :razz

Thanks, Henry. I thought my search engines had gone on strike.

[Exterminator]

May I have your source for the number, please? I can't find diddly-squat, except some blogs, and their estimates run everywhere from "tens of thousands" to "everyone in the known universe."

Are we even sure this event took place?

Teabaggers can't do math.

[Exterminator]

the republicans have delivered three bills to congress with alternative solutions but they have been ignored....I posted all three on here somewhere, I will find them tomorrow....they were sound ideas that should at least be looked at, but were not....they had solutions with LESS government involvement....and THAT is what MOST people on the right want....

And all of them serve the interests of the insurance companies who are part of the problem.  The private sector has had every opportunity to find a resolution that doesn't require government involvement and they have failed to do anything.  If that were ever going to happen, it would have by now and we wouldn't need to have this conversation.

[Henry Hawk]

And all of them serve the interests of the insurance companies who are part of the problem.  The private sector has had every opportunity to find a resolution that doesn't require government involvement and they have failed to do anything.  If that were ever going to happen, it would have by now and we wouldn't need to have this conversation.

That is not true....I think it took all of this eye opening events and debates to make EVERYONE realize that SOMETHING has to happen....TORT reform is not even discussed on the new bill.....THAT could do wonders alone....I think there is some common ground from both sides that need to be considered.....

[Exterminator]

That is not true....I think it took all of this eye opening events and debates to make EVERYONE realize that SOMETHING has to happen....TORT reform is not even discussed on the new bill.....THAT could do wonders alone....I think there is some common ground from both sides that need to be considered.....

It is absolutely true.  Who does tort reform benefit?

[Henry Hawk]

It is absolutely true.  Who does tort reform benefit?

For one, the Doctors....who are spending way too much $$$ TOO insurance companies...to protect themselves from losing their ass....it is a contributing factor to unnecessary costs....it is not the only answer, but in conjunction with other solutions, it is something that needs to be done.....the one's that benifit the most by NOT having it is the lawyers themselves, who, unfortunatly represent MOST of our congress...and gives quite a bit of money to certain political parties...

[Exterminator]

For one, the Doctors....who are spending way too much $$$ TOO insurance companies...to protect themselves from losing their ass....

It actually benefits the insurance companies more than anyone because it lowers their liability with no guarantee whatsoever that any cost savings will be reflected in the premiums of health care professionals as a result.  Tort reform is a perfect example of a very wealthy and powerful group of corporations pushing legislation that benefits only them (but they'll need some bailout funds too, please).

it is a contributing factor to unnecessary costs....it is not the only answer, but in conjunction with other solutions, it is something that needs to be done.....the one's that benifit the most by NOT having it is the lawyers themselves, who, unfortunatly represent MOST of our congress...and gives quite a bit of money to certain political parties...

Ah, yes, the lawyers are the people manipulating our legislative branch; not big money.    

So if you went to the hospital for some minor surgery and your records got switched and your arm was removed, how much would that mistake be worth to you and who should decide that figure?  You've already said that the government shouldn't be involved so that pretty much only leaves the very insurance company responsible for paying the bill; how much sense does that make?

[Henry Hawk]

Teabaggers can't do math.

I think the more realistic figures show there was between 400,000 to 500,000 people there.....not a bad turn out....

[Exterminator]

I think the more realistic figures show there was between 400,000 to 500,000 people there.....not a bad turn out....

Dream on.