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Henry Hawk

#570
September 16, 2011, 06:11:15 AM
who passed the bill?
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll

#571
September 16, 2011, 10:35:14 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 16, 2011, 06:11:15 AM
who passed the bill?

  The Democrats passed the bill hoping to make it better at a later time.

  But your Ass Hole Tea/Republican Party want to kill it and make it so nobody get health care.  Naturally old save the health insurance companies Hawk is crying :cry: the blues.  Grow up Hawk.  :cry: :cry:  :cry:

  I still don't see how someone who comes from a blue collar UAW family and a so called Christian can be for the Super Rich and the corporations.  :jester:  :jester: :knife:

Exterminator

#572
September 16, 2011, 10:55:47 AM
Quote from: The Troll on September 16, 2011, 10:35:14 AM
I still don't see how someone who comes from a blue collar UAW family and a so called Christian can be for the Super Rich and the corporations.

Abject stupidity.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

#573
September 16, 2011, 11:15:40 AM
Quote from: The Troll on September 16, 2011, 10:35:14 AM
   I still don't see how someone who comes from a blue collar UAW family and a so called Christian can be for the Super Rich and the corporations.

because you are so "blinded" by your life that the UAW "gave" you, you don't know how the rest of the world really feels....I do not feel anybody owes me anything......I am happy with living my life as it is.....

Troll, do you want corporations to go away?.....good luck with your retirment THEN!!.........don't forget, it was a strong corporation that FED you and gave you work ALL of your life.  Don't forget it took some "super rich" people to make that corporpation possible.

I seriously do not understand WHY, you HATE those who employ the workers of America?....the UAW did NOT employ ONE damn person....all the did was ruin a good thing for everyone....I know this p!sses you off, but it is a FACT.  They (UAW) got TOO greedy!......I am proud of what they once did...and found some common ground between the owners and the workers........but the THUGS took over and here we are now...unemployement near 10%.  It is that simple.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll

#574
September 16, 2011, 11:33:27 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 16, 2011, 11:15:40 AM
because you are so "blinded" by your life that the UAW "gave" you, you don't know how the rest of the world really feels....I do not feel anybody owes me anything......I am happy with living my life as it is.....

Troll, do you want corporations to go away?.....good luck with your retirment THEN!!.........don't forget, it was a strong corporation that FED you and gave you work ALL of your life.  Don't forget it took some "super rich" people to make that corporpation possible.

I seriously do not understand WHY, you HATE those who employ the workers of America?....the UAW did NOT employ ONE damn person....all the did was ruin a good thing for everyone....I know this p!sses you off, but it is a FACT.  They (UAW) got TOO greedy!......I am proud of what they once did...and found some common ground between the owners and the workers........but the THUGS took over and here we are now...unemployement near 10%.  It is that simple.

  Yes the UAW did good for me and your dad.  Who paying for his hospital care.  Medicare a Democrat plan that you want killed.

  You say that you don't want anything from anyone, but Hawk you don't want anyone else to have anything.  You think you got yours.  Don't count you eggs before they hatch.  All that need to happen is if your company goes out of business or bought out by the Chinese.  Life can change very quickly. 

  How would you like to go out in the job market at 51 and try to find a job with your specialize job experience, Good Luck in this Republican depression.  What a joker :jester: you are Hawk.  :chick:  All I have to say to you Hawk is get smart. :doh:

Henry Hawk

#575
September 16, 2011, 12:05:42 PM
Quote from: The Troll on September 16, 2011, 11:33:27 AM
  Yes the UAW did good for me and your dad.  Who paying for his hospital care.  Medicare a Democrat plan that you want killed.

  You say that you don't want anything from anyone, but Hawk you don't want anyone else to have anything.  You think you got yours.  Don't count you eggs before they hatch.  All that need to happen is if your company goes out of business or bought out by the Chinese.  Life can change very quickly. 

  How would you like to go out in the job market at 51 and try to find a job with your specialize job experience, Good Luck in this Republican depression.  What a joker :jester: you are Hawk.  :chick:  All I have to say to you Hawk is get smart. :doh:

so you want the government to mandate nobody buys out my company?........I'm not following you troll.  There are always risks....it seems as if YOU think there should be some guarantees with everybody's jobs.......the UAW didn't save peoples jobs......they forced Companies to go to other countries......

Stop and think....IF, the UAW had their way and force, let's say GM to stay here and build cars, parts and everything, at Union wages......how much do you think it would cost to buy a GM car?  How many do you think they would sell?  How long do you think GM would be profitable and stay in business?.....do you think they could continue to pay top notch Healthcare as you and my Dad have? 

There has got to be a happy medium......from what I have read...GM pays about $75 per worker (because of the UAW)............Honda pays about $40 per worker.....I know there are plenty of happy folks working at Honda right now, and there are millions of unemployed that would LOVE to be part of that work force.

talk to me....
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#576
September 16, 2011, 12:12:13 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 16, 2011, 12:05:42 PM
...the UAW didn't save peoples jobs......they forced Companies to go to other countries......

Nope; Wall St. and investors demands for ever higher demand for their investments did and trade agreements like NAFTA of Bush granting permanent favored trade status to China enabled them.  Unfortunately for our country and our economy, the people who got put out of work in the process also bought the majority of the products those companies were making so they pretty much shot themselves in the foot.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

#577
September 16, 2011, 12:15:27 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 16, 2011, 11:15:40 AM
Don't forget it took some "super rich" people to make that corporpation possible.

Wrong again.  Rich people don't own corporations; people like me who invest do.  You sure don't seem to know much about this for someone who's "studied" it...lol...
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

The Troll

#578
September 16, 2011, 12:22:08 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on September 16, 2011, 12:12:13 PM
Nope; Wall St. and investors demands for ever higher demand for their investments did and trade agreements like NAFTA of Bush granting permanent favored trade status to China enabled them.  Unfortunately for our country and our economy, the people who got put out of work in the process also bought the majority of the products those companies were making so they pretty much shot themselves in the foot.

  Hawk, Ex said it all.  But right now in this country China is buying small business, empty manufacturing plants and hotels like they are doing right now in Cleveland Ohio and in many other cities.  Hell, who knows your business might be next and they believe in low wages.  :rotfl: :rotfl:  Live it up Hawk while you can.  China likes small profitable companies.   :wink: :biggrin:

Exterminator

#579
September 16, 2011, 12:27:58 PM
Are your company's electricians non-union, Henry?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

damfast

#580
September 16, 2011, 12:30:02 PM
For Sale: Chinese Eye Kits
Cheap
Pretty sure they work
Almost guaranteed to make you look Chinese in case of evasion.
Work best on short people.
It's always darkest before the dawn.  So if you're going to steal your neighbor's newspaper, that's the time to do it.

Henry Hawk

#581
September 16, 2011, 12:32:15 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on September 16, 2011, 12:15:27 PM
Wrong again.  Rich people don't own corporations; people like me who invest do.  You sure don't seem to know much about this for someone who's "studied" it...lol...

Rich people invest in stocks.......middle class folks work, pay their bills, raise families, if they have some left over they consevatively put it away.

I am not against those who do sink large portions of their money into Corporations....I am thankful for them........I do not want them punished.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

#582
September 16, 2011, 12:33:22 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 16, 2011, 12:05:42 PM
so you want the government to mandate nobody buys out my company?........I'm not following you troll.  There are always risks....it seems as if YOU think there should be some guarantees with everybody's jobs.......the UAW didn't save peoples jobs......they forced Companies to go to other countries......

Stop and think....IF, the UAW had their way and force, let's say GM to stay here and build cars, parts and everything, at Union wages......how much do you think it would cost to buy a GM car?  How many do you think they would sell?  How long do you think GM would be profitable and stay in business?.....do you think they could continue to pay top notch Healthcare as you and my Dad have? 

There has got to be a happy medium......from what I have read...GM pays about $75 per worker (because of the UAW)............Honda pays about $40 per worker.....I know there are plenty of happy folks working at Honda right now, and there are millions of unemployed that would LOVE to be part of that work force.

talk to me....

Troll?
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

#583
September 16, 2011, 12:33:40 PM
Quote from: Exterminator on September 16, 2011, 12:27:58 PM
Are your company's electricians non-union, Henry?

No
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#584
September 16, 2011, 12:41:01 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 16, 2011, 12:32:15 PM
Rich people invest in stocks.......middle class folks work, pay their bills, raise families, if they have some left over they consevatively put it away.

I am not against those who do sink large portions of their money into Corporations....I am thankful for them........I do not want them punished.

Rich people harbor the majority of their money in safe investments like property and bonds and precious metals.  Middle class people, via our 401K's, IRA's, etc., invest in corporations.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.
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