Obama Slams Health Care Critics For Spreading "Outlandish Rumors"

[me]

Wrong thread oops. 

[The Troll]

Wrong thread oops.

  Off course as usual.  Lover Baby  

[Palehorse]

Bend over people.

MY healthcare costs are going to go up by 70% next year, thanks to the jackasses who refused to leave the teeth in the healthcare reform act.

Thanks a lot fools. I can only hope that you too will share in this "wondrous thing" your racist initiative has created. 

And if the information I saw this week is correct, most of you are going to be squalling when you see the bullshit your employers are going to be rolling out for 2012 around healthcare.

[me]

Seems to me like HH and I tried to say something to that effect and were poo pooed and scoffed at.  Seems to me that most of the conservatives who were against this healthcare bill also said insurance rates would go up for those who had insurance too and that's one of the things they were against.  The cost for the employer's is going up and that is why yours is going up.  Next year your other choice will be to go on government sponsored healthcare. 

[The Troll]

Seems to me like HH and I tried to say something to that effect and were poo pooed and scoffed at.  Seems to me that most of the conservatives who were against this healthcare bill also said insurance rates would go up for those who had insurance too and that's one of the things they were against.  The cost for the employer's is going up and that is why yours is going up.  Next year your other choice will be to go on government sponsored healthcare.

  Tell me something "ME", just why can't the insurance companies be nonprofit companies.  When they work of the profit system every dollar they make in profit is less medical help for their customers.  They still can pay good wages to the CEO and the employees.  It would just stop the multimillion's in dollars in pay they pay their CEOs now.

  And why is it Obama fault for the raising healthcare cost.  Why don't you ask the drug companies, Hospital administrators and the doctors why the bills are so high.

  It seem to me that you are beating the wrong horse which is like beating a dead horse.

[Bo D]

  Tell me something "ME", just why can't the insurance companies be nonprofit companies. 

I work with a few non-profit organizations. It has been my experience that they are inefficient and waste a lot of money.

[The Troll]

I work with a few non-profit organizations. It has been my experience that they are inefficient and waste a lot of money.

  Please tell how and why they are inefficient since you worked for them while they were wasting a lot of money.   

[Bo D]

  Please tell how and why they are inefficient since you worked for them while they were wasting a lot of money.   

I didn't say I worked FOR them. I work WITH them on an IT consultancy basis.

They have no incentive to watch the bottom line. The executive positions are grossly overpaid in the ones that I am familiar with. They depend on contributions and since they are lobbyists, they have PLENTY of money to throw around. They pay an exorbitant amount for rent because they want to be on K street. And they have the most lavish offices you have ever seen.

[Palehorse]

Seems to me like HH and I tried to say something to that effect and were poo pooed and scoffed at.  Seems to me that most of the conservatives who were against this healthcare bill also said insurance rates would go up for those who had insurance too and that's one of the things they were against.  The cost for the employer's is going up and that is why yours is going up.  Next year your other choice will be to go on government sponsored healthcare.

This happened because of the removal of the teeth from the original bill, which resulted in an insurance carrier friendly bill that enabled these jackasses instead of regulating them as was intended.

Seems to me if anyone was warning about the resulting increases it was this poster!

[Henry Hawk]

WHO PASSED THE BILL?.............WHO?




THEY PASSED A BILL WITHOUT EVEN KNOWING WHAT WAS IN IT!!!........NOW, THAT THEY PASSED IT.........THE SHIT IS ALL SOMEBODY ELSES FAULT BUT THE ASSHOLES WHO PASSED IT!!!! PERIOD  THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO SAID THIS WAS BAD WAS THOSE WHO TRIED TO STOP IT.......THIS POTUS IS RESPONSIBLE...NO ONE ELSE..........HE ASKED FOR IT, HE GOT IT....IF THERE WAS SHIT IN IT HE DIDN'T LIKE, HE SHOULD NOT HAVE PASSED IT.............PASSING THE BUCK IS SOMETHING HE IS AN EXPERT AT!!!!

THIS IS THE POOREST LEADERSHIP THIS NATION HAS EVER, EVER HAD...........

THEY WAS GREAT WITH GIVING A HALF A BILLION TO A SOLAR COMPANY WHO NOW IS BANKRUPT!!!........HE IS SELLING HIS NEW BILL WITH A GREAT DEAL OF SCARE TACTICS........WHINING THAT THERE ARE 153 BRIDGES ON THE VERGE OF COLLAPES IF WE DON'T PASS THIS BILL........IF THEY ARE THIS BAD, WHY DID HE NOT FIX THEM ON HIS LAST TRILLION DOLLAR STIMULUS BILL?.....WHY ARE THEY STILL OPEN IF THEY ARE ON THE VERGE OF COLLAPES?......HE IS SO FULL OF SHIT, YET THE SHEEP KEEP ON FOLLOWING HIM...

[The Troll]

I didn't say I worked FOR them. I work WITH them on an IT consultancy basis.

They have no incentive to watch the bottom line. The executive positions are grossly overpaid in the ones that I am familiar with. They depend on contributions and since they are lobbyists, they have PLENTY of money to throw around. They pay an exorbitant amount for rent because they want to be on K street. And they have the most lavish offices you have ever seen.

  What you said sound like the American Heart Fund.  My sister worked for them in an Indiana office.  She said they had lavish dinners, parties and lavish trips for for only the top officials and paid minimum wage to all of their workers.

  Surly there could be regulations on the people and they have to account for their spending.  It seem like were there is a lot of money, there are always the crooks taking advantage of everybody.   

[The Troll]

WHO PASSED THE BILL?.............WHO?




THEY PASSED A BILL WITHOUT EVEN KNOWING WHAT WAS IN IT!!!........NOW, THAT THEY PASSED IT.........THE SHIT IS ALL SOMEBODY ELSES FAULT BUT THE ASSHOLES WHO PASSED IT!!!! PERIOD  THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO SAID THIS WAS BAD WAS THOSE WHO TRIED TO STOP IT.......THIS POTUS IS RESPONSIBLE...NO ONE ELSE..........HE ASKED FOR IT, HE GOT IT....IF THERE WAS SHIT IN IT HE DIDN'T LIKE, HE SHOULD NOT HAVE PASSED IT.............PASSING THE BUCK IS SOMETHING HE IS AN EXPERT AT!!!!

THIS IS THE POOREST LEADERSHIP THIS NATION HAS EVER, EVER HAD...........

THEY WAS GREAT WITH GIVING A HALF A BILLION TO A SOLAR COMPANY WHO NOW IS BANKRUPT!!!........HE IS SELLING HIS NEW BILL WITH A GREAT DEAL OF SCARE TACTICS........WHINING THAT THERE ARE 153 BRIDGES ON THE VERGE OF COLLAPES IF WE DON'T PASS THIS BILL........IF THEY ARE THIS BAD, WHY DID HE NOT FIX THEM ON HIS LAST TRILLION DOLLAR STIMULUS BILL?.....WHY ARE THEY STILL OPEN IF THEY ARE ON THE VERGE OF COLLAPES?......HE IS SO FULL OF SHIT, YET THE SHEEP KEEP ON FOLLOWING HIM...

  All of your miss placed hatred and ill thinking.  When are you going to smarten up.  and quit watching Fox News, you sure didn't come up with this crap on your own.  You're not that smart.  Talk about brain washed.  You sure are. 

[Palehorse]

When I have some time, I will link to the posts on THIS forum that PROVE that the changes made during the debate of the HCRA led to what everyone who works and is reading this is going to get bitch slapped with.

The original bill had provisions to prevent increases to deductibles and premiums, it prevented companies from applying diagnostic testing toward deductibles, and a lot of other things that did NOT get through the bill as passed by congress. They took the teeth out of it because they are paid by those same companies!

NOW, they are applying everything toward deductibles that are DOUBLE; including prescription drugs!

That is NOT the fault of the POTUS, but of congress!

[Y]

IIRC, wasn't there a Universal option in the original plan?

[Palehorse]

IIRC, wasn't there a Universal option in the original plan?

Yup, there was. . . funny how all that goes right out the window isn't it?