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Exterminator

#375
October 13, 2009, 10:10:35 AM
Quote from: Olias on October 13, 2009, 10:01:44 AM
I asked you this before and you never answered. Can you quote the portion(s) of the bill that you think "is NOT a good thing" and tell me why?

Of course he can't.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

#376
October 13, 2009, 10:15:06 AM
Quote from: Olias on October 13, 2009, 09:52:14 AM
You really just don't get it.

First you post a blogger who claims
and then "the fact is the majority of Americans are satisfied"

Satisfied with what?

When are you going to realize that this debate is not about health care quality, but the cost of that health care?

Damn!!! I love my doctor and the care I receive!!! I get the best care health care available! But I won't be able to afford it much longer.

Okay...I go along with that........but the reform they are offering is ridicules......such as enable electronic funds transfers....this needs to be clarified.........I know factcheck says there is no problems with this.......I don't believe them........for it says.....enable electronic funds transfers...this is just ONE example of what I don't like.....THIS is not reform....it is controlling.

Where is the encouragement of MSA?....tax credits to encourage coverage...instead of TAX and penalizing those who don't? or offer vouchers...... TORT reform to reduce predatory and frivolous malpractice lawsuits against physicians and hospitals...

I think there are better ways than allowing Gov to control TOO much of what is going on....
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

#377
October 13, 2009, 10:26:37 AM
I'm not thrilled about the "Health Benefits Advisory Committee to recommend covered benefits"....page 22, section 123....

again, I know we have similar committees........I don't think GOV Ran committees is going to make things better.....I DON'T TRUST OUR GOV.....DEM OR REPUB....I DON'T TRUST THEM....AND I WILL NEVER LIKE IT.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#378
October 13, 2009, 10:27:54 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 13, 2009, 10:15:06 AM
Okay...I go along with that........but the reform they are offering is ridicules......such as enable electronic funds transfers....this needs to be clarified.........I know factcheck says there is no problems with this.......I don't believe them........for it says.....enable electronic funds transfers...this is just ONE example of what I don't like.....THIS is not reform....it is controlling.

I think I speak for everyone when I say WTF?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

#379
October 13, 2009, 10:30:01 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 13, 2009, 10:26:37 AM
I'm not thrilled about the "Health Benefits Advisory Committee to recommend covered benefits"....page 22, section 123....

Is this supposed to be an answer to Olias' question?

Quote...I don't think GOV Ran committees is going to make things better...

Classic!
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

#380
October 13, 2009, 10:34:43 AM
Quote from: Exterminator on October 13, 2009, 10:27:54 AM
I think I speak for everyone when I say WTF?
Guess that means you don't mind being required to set up an automatic fund transfer to the Government for your "free" health care coverage. 
Trump 2020

Henry Hawk

#381
October 13, 2009, 10:37:48 AM
Quote from: me on October 13, 2009, 10:34:43 AM
Guess that means you don't mind being required to set up an automatic fund transfer to the Government for your "free" health care coverage. 

He has NEVER read it....so his best retort is WTF?...
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#382
October 13, 2009, 10:38:57 AM
Quote from: me on October 13, 2009, 10:34:43 AM
Guess that means you don't mind being required to set up an automatic fund transfer to the Government for your "free" health care coverage.

I guess that means that I have no freaking idea what the hell he was trying to say.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Bo D

#383
October 13, 2009, 10:41:49 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 13, 2009, 10:15:06 AM
Okay...I go along with that........but the reform they are offering is ridicules......such as enable electronic funds transfers....this needs to be clarified.........I know factcheck says there is no problems with this.......I don't believe them........for it says.....enable electronic funds transfers...this is just ONE example of what I don't like.....THIS is not reform....it is controlling.


You must be kidding! WTH is wrong EXACTLY with ENABLING electronic funds transfers? Do you realize how much money electronic funds transfers save in the billing process?

Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 13, 2009, 10:26:37 AM
I'm not thrilled about the "Health Benefits Advisory Committee to recommend covered benefits"....page 22, section 123....


You never had an HMO? I don't know about you but I sure as hell would rather have a "Health Benefits Advisory Committee" made up of doctors and nurses RECOMMENDING covered benefits rather than the bean counters of the insurance company MANDATING covered benefits and DENYING benefits to pump up the company bottom line!
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Bo D

#384
October 13, 2009, 10:42:57 AM
Quote from: me on October 13, 2009, 10:34:43 AM
Guess that means you don't mind being required to set up an automatic fund transfer to the Government for your "free" health care coverage.

I was wrong yesterday to insinuate that you had any intelligence.  :rolleyes:
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Exterminator

#385
October 13, 2009, 10:43:55 AM
Quote from: me on October 13, 2009, 10:34:43 AM
Guess that means you don't mind being required to set up an automatic fund transfer to the Government for your "free" health care coverage.

"This section of the House bill actually deals with administrative simplification - - things like making billing more efficient so your doctor can spend more time caring for patients and less time fighting with insurance companies. The actual language sets standards for electronic funds transfers between health care providers and insurance companies - - it has nothing to do with the patient's bank account."

Do you want to try again or are you satisfied with the extent to which you have already displayed your ignorance?

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

#386
October 13, 2009, 10:45:03 AM
Quote from: Olias on October 13, 2009, 10:42:57 AM
I was wrong yesterday to insinuate that you had any intelligence.  :rolleyes:

I certainly questioned it at the time.   :biggrin:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

#387
October 13, 2009, 10:48:40 AM
Quote from: Exterminator on October 13, 2009, 10:43:55 AM
"This section of the House bill actually deals with administrative simplification - - things like making billing more efficient so your doctor can spend more time caring for patients and less time fighting with insurance companies. The actual language sets standards for electronic funds transfers between health care providers and insurance companies - - it has nothing to do with the patient's bank account."

Do you want to try again or are you satisfied with the extent to which you have already displayed your ignorance?

again more talking points from factcheck.org...........can you think for yourself?.............THAT is always YOUR retort when I give you an answer...........hell, you simply copied and pasted your answer.......parrot.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

#388
October 13, 2009, 10:54:19 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 13, 2009, 10:48:40 AM
again more talking points from factcheck.org...........can you think for yourself?.............THAT is always YOUR retort when I give you an answer...........hell, you simply copied and pasted your answer.......parrot.

Because their answer is the correct one.  Please enlighten us with your basis for not believing them and be specific.  I'm betting you can't because you have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

#389
October 13, 2009, 10:57:41 AM
Quote from: Exterminator on October 13, 2009, 10:54:19 AM
Because their answer is the correct one.  Please enlighten us with your basis for not believing them and be specific.  I'm betting you can't because you have no idea what the hell you're talking about.
You go right ahead and keep believing that. 
Trump 2020
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