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Started by Sandy Eggo, August 09, 2009, 12:37:59 PM

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Exterminator

You should really be more careful about using 'pasted' and 'face' in the same sentence.   :icon_twisted:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

pariann

I've been writing about discussion at the PAC meeting last night. I'm in serious mode.  Whatever you are trying to say, is totally escaping me at the moment. :spooked:
Looks like I've come full circle.

Exterminator

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

pariann

Looks like I've come full circle.

me

I'm not missing any point.  What I'm trying to say is I would rather have no insurance than what is currently being proposed because of what it is going to cost for this "free" health care.  You just really don't get it do you?
Trump 2020

Exterminator

Quote from: me on September 02, 2009, 10:27:04 AM
I'm not missing any point.  What I'm trying to say is I would rather have no insurance than what is currently being proposed because of what it is going to cost for this "free" health care.  You just really don't get it do you?

Yes, I get it...you wouldn't be paying anything just like you don't now because my costs are higher to cover people like you.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

Quote from: Exterminator on September 02, 2009, 11:10:59 AM
Yes, I get it...you wouldn't be paying anything just like you don't now because my costs are higher to cover people like you.
:rolleyes:  And just how do you figure that?  I did have insurance and damn good insurance until 10yrs ago.  You no nothing about me so quit trying to throw things off by thinking you do and making asinine statements.
Trump 2020

Exterminator

Quote from: me on September 02, 2009, 01:12:16 PM
:rolleyes:  And just how do you figure that?  I did have insurance and damn good insurance until 10yrs ago.  You no nothing about me so quit trying to throw things off by thinking you do and making asinine statements.

Uh, I haven't alluded to anything you haven't told us in these forums so shut your pie-hole.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

Quote from: Exterminator on September 02, 2009, 01:39:31 PM
Uh, I haven't alluded to anything you haven't told us in these forums so shut your pie-hole.
No, you are assuming I have never had insurance and that you are paying out of your pocket for any care I do happen to get.  That would be a wrong assumption.  Yes, I am on Social Security now but I worked and put into it you didn't.  So how do you figure you are paying for anything for me? You are paying for what might be yours when you reach my age.  At any rate that is how it was supposed to work when it was implemented until congress started borrowing from it.  And if you make another old lady joke out of this I'm gonna whoop ya.... >:(
Trump 2020

pariann

Looks like I've come full circle.

Exterminator

Quote from: me on September 02, 2009, 01:52:26 PM
No, you are assuming I have never had insurance and that you are paying out of your pocket for any care I do happen to get.  That would be a wrong assumption.  Yes, I am on Social Security now but I worked and put into it you didn't.  So how do you figure you are paying for anything for me? You are paying for what might be yours when you reach my age.  At any rate that is how it was supposed to work when it was implemented until congress started borrowing from it.

But it isn't the way it works at all; is it?  It isn't a bank account and what happens to the money I'm contributing if I die before I reach retirement?  Poof!

QuoteAnd if you make another old lady joke out of this I'm gonna whoop ya.... >:(

You couldn't catch me.   :razz:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

Quote from: Exterminator on September 02, 2009, 03:00:13 PM
But it isn't the way it works at all; is it?  It isn't a bank account and what happens to the money I'm contributing if I die before I reach retirement?  Poof!
No one gets near what they contribute usually, well except for congress who contributed nothing for the most part.  They get, I think its somewhere around, $10,000pr month for life. What a crock.

QuoteYou couldn't catch me.   :razz:
Don't bet on it bucko.... :biggrin: :razz:
Trump 2020

pariann

Looks like I've come full circle.

Bo D

Quote from: me on September 02, 2009, 03:08:44 PM
No one gets near what they contribute usually, well except for congress who contributed nothing for the most part.  They get, I think its somewhere around, $10,000pr month for life.

That avatar you're using kinda fits, 'cause your a$$ must be pretty huge with all those little "factoids" you seem to pull out of it.


"Under a law enacted in 1983, all members of Congress both contribute to and receive benefits from the Social Security system. Upon retirement, members receive either a combination of federal pension and Social Security benefits or Social Security alone, depending upon when their term of service started and how they configured their individual plan.

Members elected after 1983 pay into the Federal Employees Retirement System. Members elected before 1983 participate in the older Civil Service Retirement Program. In both cases, members of Congress contribute to the plans at a slightly higher rate than ordinary federal employees.

As of 2002, 411 retired members were receiving benefits under CSRS at an average rate of $55,788 per year and 71 were receiving benefits under FERS (or a combination of CSRS and FERS) with $41,856 per year in average benefits. Members do not automatically received lifetime pensions. How much they receive and how long they receive it depends on many factors, including age, length of service (including military) and choice of plans, etc."

http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blcongress.htm
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Bo D

More REAL facts ....


All members of Congress pay Social Security taxes in the same amounts as they would if they were employed in the private sector at the same salary level. The amount of a congressional pension varies and depends on years of service, age at the time of retirement, and salary.
http://www.senate.gov/reference/common/faq/retirement_for_members.shtml
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan