Obama Slams Health Care Critics For Spreading "Outlandish Rumors"

[Bo D]

These guys are the one's who are supposed to read it....and then go to townhalls and explain to those of us who hired them to do this work....and they damn well better have the answers....and they are not doing this....because THEY don't understand it...or they are hiding crap.

Wasn't very long ago, it seems you were complaining about bills not being posted in time for you to read them (as if you actually would.)

Now you want somebody else to do the work for you?

Is it any wonder this country is so screwed up? You get what you deserve.

[me]

Wasn't very long ago, it seems you were complaining about bills not being posted in time for you to read them (as if you actually would.)

Now you want somebody else to do the work for you?

Is it any wonder this country is so screwed up? You get what you deserve.

Excuse me but isn't it their job to read the bills before they pass them? 

[Bo D]

Excuse me but isn't it their job to read the bills before they pass them?

Of course it is! And it's YOUR job to watch over them and make sure they do. And remember what they did on election day!

Of course you probably overlooked the same situation over the Patriot Bill a while back.

[me]

 

[Exterminator]

Excuse me but isn't it their job to read the bills before they pass them?

Can you prove that they haven't or are you just talking more of your typical lying smack?

And yes, it's a rhetorical question...not that you'll know what that means.

[Henry Hawk]

Of course it is! And it's YOUR job to watch over them and make sure they do. .

and THAT is what people are doing....they are getting PISSED off!!...THEY clearly do NOT like what is IN this Bill.

that is pretty clear Bo.....that is why there is protests, and very disgruntled people at the townhalls.

[Bo D]

and THAT is what people are doing....they are getting PISSED off!!...THEY clearly do NOT like what is IN this Bill.

that is pretty clear Bo.....that is why there is protests, and very disgruntled people at the townhalls.

Tell us, Henry. What EXACTLY is in the bill to be pissed off about?

[Bo D]

Or maybe you would just rather believe OUTRIGHT LIES such as this ...

"The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's 'death panel' so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their 'level of productivity in society,' whether they are worthy of health care,"  ... Sarah Palin

Even her fellow conservatives are muttering behind her back and questioning her sanity after that little gem.

[me]

Or maybe you would just rather believe OUTRIGHT LIES such as this ...

"The America I know and love is not one in which my parents or my baby with Down Syndrome will have to stand in front of Obama's 'death panel' so his bureaucrats can decide, based on a subjective judgment of their 'level of productivity in society,' whether they are worthy of health care,"  ... Sarah Palin

Even her fellow conservatives are muttering behind her back and questioning her sanity after that little gem.

I don't particularly approve of that statement either but did ya ever think maybe she read the bill and isn't speaking out of lack of knowledge?  Like I said though, I don't feel she should have made that statement and don't know what she was thinking when she made it so I'm not basing any part of my opinion on it. 

[Bo D]

I don't particularly approve of that statement either but did ya ever think maybe she read the bill and isn't speaking out of lack of knowledge?  Like I said though, I don't feel she should have made that statement and don't know what she was thinking when she made it so I'm not basing any part of my opinion on it.

If she had read the bill, that makes the statement even worse. Everyone agrees that there is no such language in the bill.

[me]

If she had read the bill, that makes the statement even worse. Everyone agrees that there is no such language in the bill.

I know what she meant when she said it but she should have chosen her words a little more carefully.  The part of the language that bothers me is the "cost effective" language.  If a $50 pill to end someone's life is more "cost effective" than the treatment what decision are they going to make as to which treatment a person will receive?  My understanding is the person won't be able to make the choice and neither will the doctor the choice will be made for them.

[Bo D]

I know what she meant when she said it but she should have chosen her words a little more carefully.  The part of the language that bothers me is the "cost effective" language.  If a $50 pill to end someone's life is more "cost effective" than the treatment what decision are they going to make as to which treatment a person will receive?  My understanding is the person won't be able to make the choice and neither will the doctor the choice will be made for them.

Your understanding is wrong.

[Palehorse]

Sweet baby Jeebus hanging on the cross! I cannot believe what I am reading! You people think this is Nazi Germany or something? Who in their right minds thinks anyone sitting in a decision maker seat is capable of administering this proposed program in the manner being speculated about herein?  (Besides Palin the Pony). 

You guys should be writing for the resurrection of Tales From The Crypt for crying out loud!

And please, which one of you is making more than 250k a year? That's what I thought. . . 

"The sky is falling! The sky is falling!"

You morons will be praising this healthcare solution once you lose your friggin jobs and get sick. . .

Hell, private insurance doesn't even pay for friggin testing anymore, until AFTER you meet your 1-2k annual deductable. They just collect the monthly premiums, bank them, and deny all claims by putting them back onto you or toward your deductables. SOP for all of them. The fuggers drive a percentage of folks to stroke or heart attack just by the stress they create in the business practices.

When you start having to shell out 475 bucks a quarter for the required blood tests to keep you on your maintenance medications, along with another 75-100 bucks a visit to the doctor each quarter, on top of the costs of your meds, you'll get on your high horse and be squalling about that too. . .

[Anne]

Already do that, haven't ever complained. Was very glad to have it when the 37,000 dollar hospital bill came for my husbands appendectomy and stay in ICU. He goes on medicare next month, maybe it will be cheaper for us then. We had GM insurance and paid no premiums ot of pocket but always always paid for full price for doctor visits, imunizations, tests done at the doctor's office and for many years did not have eye, dental or drug coverage. (People forget that,) Now we pay premiums, and yes I know they are very low, have deductables (which aren't so low) and our drug coverage costs have triples and frankly I still would rather have this than what the government is proposing until they can explain it fully to me. I sure as heck don't want to pay for non citizens health care. Let their own country pay for it.

[Henry Hawk]

Sweet baby Jeebus hanging on the cross! I cannot believe what I am reading! You people think this is Nazi Germany or something? Who in their right minds thinks anyone sitting in a decision maker seat is capable of administering this proposed program in the manner being speculated about herein?  (Besides Palin the Pony). 

You guys should be writing for the resurrection of Tales From The Crypt for crying out loud!

And please, which one of you is making more than 250k a year? That's what I thought. . . 

"The sky is falling! The sky is falling!"

You morons will be praising this healthcare solution once you lose your friggin jobs and get sick. . .

Hell, private insurance doesn't even pay for friggin testing anymore, until AFTER you meet your 1-2k annual deductable. They just collect the monthly premiums, bank them, and deny all claims by putting them back onto you or toward your deductables. SOP for all of them. The fuggers drive a percentage of folks to stroke or heart attack just by the stress they create in the business practices.

When you start having to shell out 475 bucks a quarter for the required blood tests to keep you on your maintenance medications, along with another 75-100 bucks a visit to the doctor each quarter, on top of the costs of your meds, you'll get on your high horse and be squalling about that too. . .

If you actually believe that OUR government is capable of successfully running OUR healthcare, then maybe YOU should be writing for the Tales From The Crypt as a docudrama...and do you REALLY think this is NOT going to cost ALL of us dearly, for this SO-CALLED Free Healthcare....it amazed me that the sky was falling when Bush was dealing with the patriot act...and we ALL survived that just fine....now, we have a president who is spending TRILLIONS..and pushing a health care as fast as possible....and is trying to silence anybody who is objecting to it.....