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Obama Slams Health Care Critics For Spreading "Outlandish Rumors"

Started by Sandy Eggo, August 09, 2009, 12:37:59 PM

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Sandy Eggo

I thought we had a thread for healthcare reform, but I can't find it. Maybe it was one of the other threads that got off topic. At any rate, I thought you may enjoy reading a portion of the transcript from the weekly address.The transcript in it's entirity as well as the video is enclosed in the link.

QuoteAs we draw close to finalizing - and passing - real health insurance reform, the defenders of the status quo and political point-scorers in Washington are growing fiercer in their opposition. In recent days and weeks, some have been using misleading information to defeat what they know is the best chance of reform we have ever had. That is why it is important, especially now, as Senators and Representatives head home and meet with their constituents, for you, the American people, to have all the facts.

So, let me explain what reform will mean for you. And let me start by dispelling the outlandish rumors that reform will promote euthanasia, cut Medicaid, or bring about a government takeover of health care. That's simply not true. This isn't about putting government in charge of your health insurance; it's about putting you in charge of your health insurance. Under the reforms we seek, if you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor. If you like your health care plan, you can keep your health care plan.

And while reform is obviously essential for the 46 million Americans who don't have health insurance, it will also provide more stability and security to the hundreds of millions who do. Right now, we have a system that works well for the insurance industry, but that doesn't always work well for you. What we need, and what we will have when we pass health insurance reform, are consumer protections to make sure that those who have insurance are treated fairly and that insurance companies are held accountable.

We will require insurance companies to cover routine checkups and preventive care, like mammograms, colonoscopies, or eye and foot exams for diabetics, so we can avoid chronic illnesses that cost too many lives and too much money.

We will stop insurance companies from denying coverage because of a person's medical history. I will never forget watching my own mother, as she fought cancer in her final days, worrying about whether her insurer would claim her illness was a preexisting condition. I have met so many Americans who worry about the same thing. That's why, under these reforms, insurance companies will no longer be able to deny coverage because of a previous illness or injury. And insurance companies will no longer be allowed to drop or water down coverage for someone who has become seriously ill. Your health insurance ought to be there for you when it counts - and reform will make sure it is.

With reform, insurance companies will also have to limit how much you can be charged for out-of-pocket expenses. And we will stop insurance companies from placing arbitrary caps on the amount of coverage you can receive in a given year or a lifetime because no one in America should go broke because of illness.

In the end, the debate about health insurance reform boils down to a choice between two approaches. The first is almost guaranteed to double health costs over the next decade, make millions more Americans uninsured, leave those with insurance vulnerable to arbitrary denials of coverage, and bankrupt state and federal governments. That's the status quo. That's the health care system we have right now.

So, we can either continue this approach, or we can choose another one - one that will protect people against unfair insurance practices; provide quality, affordable insurance to every American; and bring down rising costs that are swamping families, businesses, and our budgets. That's the health care system we can bring about with reform.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/08/obama-uses-jobs-report-to_n_254563.html
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me

Then why do most in congress say they won't also go on the same plan if it's gonna be so great?
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Exterminator

Quote from: me on August 09, 2009, 12:47:03 PM
Then why do most in congress say they won't also go on the same plan if it's gonna be so great?

Not because of the bullshit people like you are spreading around.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

Quote from: Exterminator on August 10, 2009, 09:54:41 AM
Not because of the bullshit people like you are spreading around.
Then what is their reason since you're so smart?  Also why is questioning something spreading bull shit?  Since when is it against the law to question our government? 
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Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on August 10, 2009, 09:54:41 AM
Not because of the bullshit people like you are spreading around.

Then all the assholes (the congress) has to do is answer the frickin questions that the people want answered...and LISTEN to what the people want....THAT is THEIR JOB!!......If is BULLSHIT, then they need to CLARIFY....but I don't think they know how to, because THEY don't understand what is in the Bill either.... :rant:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: me on August 10, 2009, 10:18:13 AM
Then what is their reason since you're so smart?

Why don't you go to their websites and read their opinions yourself?

QuoteAlso why is questioning something spreading bull shit?  Since when is it against the law to question our government? 

Spreading the shit you and Henry do is not questioning the government; it is intentionally propagating misinformation...some call it lying.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 10, 2009, 11:38:35 AM
Then all the assholes (the congress) has to do is answer the frickin questions that the people want answered...and LISTEN to what the people want....THAT is THEIR JOB!!......If is BULLSHIT, then they need to CLARIFY....but I don't think they know how to, because THEY don't understand what is in the Bill either.... :rant:

And how many of their website have you visited to read their opinions?  Even one?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

Quote from: Exterminator on August 10, 2009, 04:08:01 PM
And how many of their website have you visited to read their opinions?  Even one?
That's the problem you go to their web sites and get their opinion about what's in the bill but not what is actually in the bill because non of them have read it. What the people who are going to the town hall meetings are doing is asking that their congressmen read the bill and don't be in such a hurry to pass it. 
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Sandy Eggo

Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

Elaine

Red meat is not bad for you, fuzzy green meat is bad for you.

Exterminator

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

Quote from: Exterminator on August 11, 2009, 08:38:55 AM
You can't fix stupid.
And I ask again.  Why is it stupid to have a different opinion than yours?  Isn't it stupid to assume there is no opinion other than your opinion? 
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Bo D

Quote from: me on August 11, 2009, 09:11:54 AM
And I ask again.  Why is it stupid to have a different opinion than yours?  Isn't it stupid to assume there is no opinion other than your opinion?

It's ok to have an INFORMED opinion, once you have ACTUALLY READ THE BILL YOURSELF! :rolleyes:
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Bo D on August 11, 2009, 10:12:25 AM
It's ok to have an INFORMED opinion, once you have ACTUALLY READ THE BILL YOURSELF! :rolleyes:

These guys are the one's who are supposed to read it....and then go to townhalls and explain to those of us who hired them to do this work....and they damn well better have the answers....and they are not doing this....because THEY don't understand it...or they are hiding crap.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Anne

Quote from: Bo D on August 11, 2009, 10:12:25 AM
It's ok to have an INFORMED opinion, once you have ACTUALLY READ THE BILL YOURSELF! :rolleyes:

If I am not allowed to have an opinion because I have not read the entire bill, then is it ok for the senators and congress to have opinions and the power to enact the bill when they haven't read it? Seems like it would be even more important for them to read and understand it than someone who actually can't do anything about it. I don't think insisting they read the darn thing before they make it law unreasonable.
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin