"Great Pacific Garbage Patch."

[Sandy Eggo]

This is for the yahoos who seem to think that all is well with our planet and that humans aren't doing any harm.

This is about as disgusting as it gets:

LOS ANGELES (Reuters) - Marine scientists from California are venturing this week to the middle of the North Pacific for a study of plastic debris accumulating across hundreds of miles (km) of open sea dubbed the "Great Pacific Garbage Patch."

http://www.reuters.com/article/scienceNews/idUSTRE5730ET20090804

[me]

I don't believe anyone said we aren't doing any harm to the planet.  What I disagree with is the Al Bore theory of "global warming".  Yes, clean things up and conserve but don't get stupid with it like they, congress, are trying to do.

[Henry Hawk]

Amen, me.....

[Exterminator]

I don't believe anyone said we aren't doing any harm to the planet.  What I disagree with is the Al Bore theory of "global warming".

Then you're an idiot.

[me]

Then you're an idiot.

Are you sure it's not you who is the idiot for falling for all that crap? 

[Exterminator]

Are you sure it's not you who is the idiot for falling for all that crap? 

Yes, of course, science is crap to your ilk; isn't it?

[me]

Yes, of course, science is crap to your ilk; isn't it?

I just chose to listen to the scientists who weren't paid by Bore for my info is all.

[Exterminator]

I just chose to listen to the scientists who weren't paid by Bore for my info is all.

That's an outright lie.  There are no climate scientists refuting global warming who don't have some connection to industry or big oil...none...nada...zero...zilch!  I've looked for them; they don't exist.

[me]

That's an outright lie.  There are no climate scientists refuting global warming who don't have some connection to industry or big oil...none...nada...zero...zilch!  I've looked for them; they don't exist.

Kind of makes it sound like it's all a big money grab then huh?

[Exterminator]

Kind of makes it sound like it's all a big money grab then huh?

The scientists who work in climatology are being paid more or less what their colleagues in other scientific fields earn commensurate with their education and experience and they would make that despite the results of their research.  To suggest otherwise is both dishonest and reeks of an ulterior motive.

[me]

The scientists who work in climatology are being paid more or less what their colleagues in other scientific fields earn commensurate with their education and experience and they would make that despite the results of their research.  To suggest otherwise is both dishonest and reeks of an ulterior motive.

So you're saying that the scientists who were doing the research for Al Bore didn't have an ulterior motive?  What about making money for him?  If they disagreed with his theory they were fired.

[Exterminator]

So you're saying that the scientists who were doing the research for Al Bore didn't have an ulterior motive?  What about making money for him?  If they disagreed with his theory they were fired.

The scientists weren't working for Al Gore, they worked for various government agencies (for governments all over the world, not just ours), foundations and private research fellowships.  All Gore did was present his interpretation of their findings.  As far as being fired, I only heard about one instance and believe that it was absolutely warranted.  Consider...if 100 weathermen forecast rain and one forecasts sunshine and he contradicts the others consistently even after it rained when he said it wouldn't, would you want to keep that weatherman on your payroll?

[me]

The scientists weren't working for Al Gore, they worked for various government agencies (for governments all over the world, not just ours), foundations and private research fellowships.  All Gore did was present his interpretation of their findings.  As far as being fired, I only heard about one instance and believe that it was absolutely warranted.  Consider...if 100 weathermen forecast rain and one forecasts sunshine and he contradicts the others consistently even after it rained when he said it wouldn't, would you want to keep that weatherman on your payroll?

Oh, his interpretation of their findings?  Which just happen to put money in his pocket through purchasing carbon credits through his company....   And what makes him so qualified to make any interpretation on science?  Couldn't his interpretation be wrong?  Oh, I forgot we can't question dems can we? 

[Exterminator]

Oh, his interpretation of their findings?  Which just happen to put money in his pocket through purchasing carbon credits through his company....   And what makes him so qualified to make any interpretation on science?  Couldn't his interpretation be wrong?  Oh, I forgot we can't question dems can we?

Now you're trying to change the subject by referring to Gore's interpretation in his movie as though it's exactly the same as the conclusion of the aforementioned scientists when that isn't necessarily true.  The gist of it, though, remains the same...if you deny the consensus, you're an idiot.

[me]

Now you're trying to change the subject by referring to Gore's interpretation in his movie as though it's exactly the same as the conclusion of the aforementioned scientists when that isn't necessarily true.  The gist of it, though, remains the same...if you deny the consensus, you're an idiot.

Nope, not any more of an idiot than you are for not agreeing with me we just have different opinions.  That's the difference between us, to disagree with you makes a person an idiot but to disagree with me only means we don't have the same opinion.