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Started by dan foster, July 01, 2009, 08:09:05 PM

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dan foster

He isn't dictating anything.  He is pointing out that "we" (the people on this planet) have some choices to make and time is running out.  YOU can't do much about the problem.  It will take gov't action and ALL of us.  We will all participate, whether we like it or not, including gore.
"Wherever morality is based on theology, wherever right is made dependent on divine authority, the most immoral, unjust, infamous things can be justified and established." -- Ludwig Feuerbach, The Essence of Christianity, 1841

"A bottle of wine contains more philosophy than all the books in the world" Louis Pasteur

"It is a truism that almost any sect, cult, or religion will legislate its creed into law if it acquires the political power to do so." -- Sir Arthur C. Clarke

Santiago

Quote from: dan foster on July 01, 2009, 08:09:05 PM
The email going around, usually has pics of "the evidence", but I have omitted them for "my convenience".

The email:

House  #1   
A 20 room  mansion (not including 8  bathrooms) heated by natural gas. Add on a pool (and a pool house) and a separate  guest house, all heated by gas. In one month this residence consumes more energy than the average American household does in a year. The  average bill for electricity and natural gas runs over $2400 per month.  In natural gas alone, this property consumes more than 20 times the  national average for an American home. This house is not situated in a Northern or Midwestern "snow belt" area. It's in the South.

House  #2 
Designed by an architecture professor at a leading national university. This house incorporates every "green" feature current home construction can provide. The house is 4,000 square feet (4 bedrooms) and is nestled on a high prairie in the American southwest. A central closet in the house holds geothermal heat-pumps drawing ground water through pipes sunk 300 feet into the ground.

The water (usually 67 degrees F) heats the house in the winter and cools it in the  summer. The system uses no fossil fuels such as oil or natural gas and  it consumes one-quarter electricity required for a conventional  heating/cooling system. Rainwater from the roof is collected and funneled into a 25,000 gallon underground cistern. Wastewater from showers, sinks and toilets goes into underground purifying tanks and then into the cistern. The collected water then irrigates the land surrounding the house. Surrounding flowers and shrubs native to the area  enable the property to blend into the surrounding rural landscape. 

~~~~~
HOUSE #1 is  outside of Nashville,  Tennessee; 
it is the abode of the "environmentalist" Al Gore.

HOUSE #2 is  on a ranch near Crawford, Texas;
it is the residence of ex President of the United States, George W. Bush.

An  "inconvenient truth." 

NOW, THE TRUTH:

Bush lives in Dallas in a $2M upscale home with all its wastefulness, included.  He sold the "prop" Crawford ranch (used for his cowboy image) just before leaving office, just as he had bought it just before getting elected in 2000.  It was a sham and the people that thought he was "real" will also believe the attached email.  Sad. The son-of-a-bitch was even afraid of horses.  Cowboy, my ass.

Do I detect just a tiny bit of envy that Bush is able to afford such a fine home?  The ranch a sham...what a joke!

me

Quote from: dan foster on July 05, 2009, 12:34:31 PM
He isn't dictating anything.  He is pointing out that "we" (the people on this planet) have some choices to make and time is running out.  YOU can't do much about the problem.  It will take gov't action and ALL of us.  We will all participate, whether we like it or not, including gore.
Gore has the money to purchase carbon credits, from his own company I might add, so he can do exactly as he pleases and doesn't have to conserve. 
Trump 2020

LOsborne

Quote from: me on July 05, 2009, 01:57:56 PM
Gore has the money to purchase carbon credits, from his own company I might add, so he can do exactly as he pleases and doesn't have to conserve. 
How praiseworthy that at least this particular wealthy politician believes it is necessary for him to sacrifice a little comfort and convenience and make the hard choices for himself and his family that he asks for from the citizenry. Don't see that often from the ruling class -- and certainly not for the past eight years.

me

Quote from: LOsborne on July 05, 2009, 04:18:11 PM
How praiseworthy that at least this particular wealthy politician believes it is necessary for him to sacrifice a little comfort and convenience and make the hard choices for himself and his family that he asks for from the citizenry. Don't see that often from the ruling class -- and certainly not for the past eight years.
No he has just paid himself to waste as usual.
Trump 2020

LOsborne

Non sequitur. I'm not even sure it's English.

me

Quote from: LOsborne on July 05, 2009, 07:12:07 PM
Non sequitur. I'm not even sure it's English.
were you talking about Gore or Obama in that statement?
Quotefrom: LOsborne on Today at 04:18:11 PM

    How praiseworthy that at least this particular wealthy politician believes it is necessary for him to sacrifice a little comfort and convenience and make the hard choices for himself and his family that he asks for from the citizenry. Don't see that often from the ruling class -- and certainly not for the past eight years.
If you were talking about Obama he was nice and cozy this winter with the thermostat sat higher than any President has ever had it set while the rest of us were being asked to turn our thermostats down.  That excuse about where he was born sure didn't fly with me since he had been living in Chicago for years. 
Trump 2020

pariann

How come you know what his thermostat was set on, and I don't? 
Looks like I've come full circle.

LOsborne

Quote from: me on July 05, 2009, 08:53:24 PM
were you talking about Gore or Obama in that statement? 
I was talking about the gibberish you posted just under it.

me

Quote from: pariann on July 05, 2009, 09:02:59 PM
How come you know what his thermostat was set on, and I don't?
And this is from a far left leaning paper who loves Obama
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/29/obama-cranks-up-white-hou_n_162127.html
Trump 2020

me

Quote from: LOsborne on July 05, 2009, 10:18:57 PM
I was talking about the gibberish you posted just under it.
He owns the company that gets his money for carbon credits.  He is paying himself.... :razz:
Trump 2020

pariann

Quote from: me on July 05, 2009, 10:20:26 PM
And this is from a far left leaning paper who loves Obama
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/29/obama-cranks-up-white-hou_n_162127.html
Hmmm, I didn't see a specific temperature setting there, BUT there is a lot of play in the temp of a growing orchid:

IDEAL TEMPERATURES FOR ORCHIDS
COOL
Max. Day 80 oF (27 oC)
Min. Night 50 oF (10 oC)
   
INTERMEDIATE
Max. Day 85 oF (30 oC)
Min. Night 55 oF (13 oC)
   
WARM
Max. Day 90 oF (32 oC)
Min. Night 60 oF (15 oC)
Looks like I've come full circle.

Exterminator

Quote from: pariann on July 05, 2009, 09:02:59 PM
How come you know what his thermostat was set on, and I don't?

She makes it up as she goes along.   :rolleyes:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

And the warm fuzzys are once again in play.   :rolleyes: 
Trump 2020

pariann

Quote from: Exterminator on July 06, 2009, 08:46:21 AM
She makes it up as she goes along.   :rolleyes:
I don't think she made it up.  Since I read the article too.  I just didn't see how high the thermostat was set.  Only that it was warm enough to grow orchids.  So I looked to see what the temp was for growing orchids, and it would appear to me...there is quite the range of temps there.   Warm in the winter for me is 80 degrees.  And if I could adjust the kerosene heaters to insure I could be that warm. I would.  I still feel cold at 68 degrees and hate being anywhere that people have their temps set at that.
Looks like I've come full circle.